fantastic advice...
11-20-2006, 01:05 PM
#11
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Re: fantastic advice...
A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
frame can rust too.
Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
chargers for it. You never know.
Earle
"nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1164045314.412030.239550@f16g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Wrangler's don't have a metal roof, so I don't know what rust you are
> > talking about. If you can see rust on anything, the vehicle is not
"free of
> > rust", no matter what the sales people say about it.
>
> It helps to know the parts of a jeep, doesn't it... The rust I'm
> talking about is not necessarily on the roof. Your're right, there is
> no roof. What I'm talking about is a little flap of metal above the
> driver's side that connects to a roll bar. There's a vinyl material
> covering it. You can't see the rust if you're not looking for it. I
> was, lifted the flap and found the rust. It's in a few other spots
> around the bottom but probably no more than any other dinged up, used
> car.
>
> >
> > That advice about yellow or orange color is good. Do cell phones work
where
> > you are going?
>
> no -- I have Sprint and coudn't get bars out there. But my friend who
> had T-mobile had three solid bars so I may have to switch providers if
> I'm going to do this. The advice of a mountain bike is good and ideal.
>
> thanks again.
>
> -jac
>
--
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pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
frame can rust too.
Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
chargers for it. You never know.
Earle
"nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1164045314.412030.239550@f16g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Wrangler's don't have a metal roof, so I don't know what rust you are
> > talking about. If you can see rust on anything, the vehicle is not
"free of
> > rust", no matter what the sales people say about it.
>
> It helps to know the parts of a jeep, doesn't it... The rust I'm
> talking about is not necessarily on the roof. Your're right, there is
> no roof. What I'm talking about is a little flap of metal above the
> driver's side that connects to a roll bar. There's a vinyl material
> covering it. You can't see the rust if you're not looking for it. I
> was, lifted the flap and found the rust. It's in a few other spots
> around the bottom but probably no more than any other dinged up, used
> car.
>
> >
> > That advice about yellow or orange color is good. Do cell phones work
where
> > you are going?
>
> no -- I have Sprint and coudn't get bars out there. But my friend who
> had T-mobile had three solid bars so I may have to switch providers if
> I'm going to do this. The advice of a mountain bike is good and ideal.
>
> thanks again.
>
> -jac
>
--
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11-20-2006, 01:05 PM
#12
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Re: fantastic advice...
A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
frame can rust too.
Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
chargers for it. You never know.
Earle
"nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1164045314.412030.239550@f16g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Wrangler's don't have a metal roof, so I don't know what rust you are
> > talking about. If you can see rust on anything, the vehicle is not
"free of
> > rust", no matter what the sales people say about it.
>
> It helps to know the parts of a jeep, doesn't it... The rust I'm
> talking about is not necessarily on the roof. Your're right, there is
> no roof. What I'm talking about is a little flap of metal above the
> driver's side that connects to a roll bar. There's a vinyl material
> covering it. You can't see the rust if you're not looking for it. I
> was, lifted the flap and found the rust. It's in a few other spots
> around the bottom but probably no more than any other dinged up, used
> car.
>
> >
> > That advice about yellow or orange color is good. Do cell phones work
where
> > you are going?
>
> no -- I have Sprint and coudn't get bars out there. But my friend who
> had T-mobile had three solid bars so I may have to switch providers if
> I'm going to do this. The advice of a mountain bike is good and ideal.
>
> thanks again.
>
> -jac
>
--
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pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
frame can rust too.
Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
chargers for it. You never know.
Earle
"nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1164045314.412030.239550@f16g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Wrangler's don't have a metal roof, so I don't know what rust you are
> > talking about. If you can see rust on anything, the vehicle is not
"free of
> > rust", no matter what the sales people say about it.
>
> It helps to know the parts of a jeep, doesn't it... The rust I'm
> talking about is not necessarily on the roof. Your're right, there is
> no roof. What I'm talking about is a little flap of metal above the
> driver's side that connects to a roll bar. There's a vinyl material
> covering it. You can't see the rust if you're not looking for it. I
> was, lifted the flap and found the rust. It's in a few other spots
> around the bottom but probably no more than any other dinged up, used
> car.
>
> >
> > That advice about yellow or orange color is good. Do cell phones work
where
> > you are going?
>
> no -- I have Sprint and coudn't get bars out there. But my friend who
> had T-mobile had three solid bars so I may have to switch providers if
> I'm going to do this. The advice of a mountain bike is good and ideal.
>
> thanks again.
>
> -jac
>
--
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11-20-2006, 01:05 PM
#13
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Re: fantastic advice...
A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
frame can rust too.
Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
chargers for it. You never know.
Earle
"nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1164045314.412030.239550@f16g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Wrangler's don't have a metal roof, so I don't know what rust you are
> > talking about. If you can see rust on anything, the vehicle is not
"free of
> > rust", no matter what the sales people say about it.
>
> It helps to know the parts of a jeep, doesn't it... The rust I'm
> talking about is not necessarily on the roof. Your're right, there is
> no roof. What I'm talking about is a little flap of metal above the
> driver's side that connects to a roll bar. There's a vinyl material
> covering it. You can't see the rust if you're not looking for it. I
> was, lifted the flap and found the rust. It's in a few other spots
> around the bottom but probably no more than any other dinged up, used
> car.
>
> >
> > That advice about yellow or orange color is good. Do cell phones work
where
> > you are going?
>
> no -- I have Sprint and coudn't get bars out there. But my friend who
> had T-mobile had three solid bars so I may have to switch providers if
> I'm going to do this. The advice of a mountain bike is good and ideal.
>
> thanks again.
>
> -jac
>
--
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pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
frame can rust too.
Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
chargers for it. You never know.
Earle
"nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1164045314.412030.239550@f16g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Wrangler's don't have a metal roof, so I don't know what rust you are
> > talking about. If you can see rust on anything, the vehicle is not
"free of
> > rust", no matter what the sales people say about it.
>
> It helps to know the parts of a jeep, doesn't it... The rust I'm
> talking about is not necessarily on the roof. Your're right, there is
> no roof. What I'm talking about is a little flap of metal above the
> driver's side that connects to a roll bar. There's a vinyl material
> covering it. You can't see the rust if you're not looking for it. I
> was, lifted the flap and found the rust. It's in a few other spots
> around the bottom but probably no more than any other dinged up, used
> car.
>
> >
> > That advice about yellow or orange color is good. Do cell phones work
where
> > you are going?
>
> no -- I have Sprint and coudn't get bars out there. But my friend who
> had T-mobile had three solid bars so I may have to switch providers if
> I'm going to do this. The advice of a mountain bike is good and ideal.
>
> thanks again.
>
> -jac
>
--
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11-20-2006, 04:24 PM
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Re: fantastic advice...
We don't have repeaters in our deserts yet, at least along highway
78 near Ocotillo Wells where I camp. I have hooked up with Mexico, about
thirty miles south, but you don't want to do that, not even in an
emergency. Lots of skip for a CB radio, though.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> frame can rust too.
>
> Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
> chargers for it. You never know.
>
> Earle
78 near Ocotillo Wells where I camp. I have hooked up with Mexico, about
thirty miles south, but you don't want to do that, not even in an
emergency. Lots of skip for a CB radio, though.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> frame can rust too.
>
> Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
> chargers for it. You never know.
>
> Earle
11-20-2006, 04:24 PM
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Re: fantastic advice...
We don't have repeaters in our deserts yet, at least along highway
78 near Ocotillo Wells where I camp. I have hooked up with Mexico, about
thirty miles south, but you don't want to do that, not even in an
emergency. Lots of skip for a CB radio, though.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> frame can rust too.
>
> Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
> chargers for it. You never know.
>
> Earle
78 near Ocotillo Wells where I camp. I have hooked up with Mexico, about
thirty miles south, but you don't want to do that, not even in an
emergency. Lots of skip for a CB radio, though.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> frame can rust too.
>
> Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
> chargers for it. You never know.
>
> Earle
11-20-2006, 04:24 PM
#16
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Posts: n/a
Re: fantastic advice...
We don't have repeaters in our deserts yet, at least along highway
78 near Ocotillo Wells where I camp. I have hooked up with Mexico, about
thirty miles south, but you don't want to do that, not even in an
emergency. Lots of skip for a CB radio, though.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> frame can rust too.
>
> Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
> chargers for it. You never know.
>
> Earle
78 near Ocotillo Wells where I camp. I have hooked up with Mexico, about
thirty miles south, but you don't want to do that, not even in an
emergency. Lots of skip for a CB radio, though.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> frame can rust too.
>
> Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
> chargers for it. You never know.
>
> Earle
11-20-2006, 04:34 PM
#17
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Re: fantastic advice...
Bill, I was just out there this weekend and was thinking of camping out
there again after the t-giving holiday is over. I'm thinking that it's
going to be somewhat crowded out there this weekend. What do you think?
Feel free to email me at alex.cordero@gmail.com for off-topic answers.
alex
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> We don't have repeaters in our deserts yet, at least along highway
> 78 near Ocotillo Wells where I camp. I have hooked up with Mexico, about
> thirty miles south, but you don't want to do that, not even in an
> emergency. Lots of skip for a CB radio, though.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> > pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> > pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> > are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> > frame can rust too.
> >
> > Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
> > chargers for it. You never know.
> >
> > Earle
there again after the t-giving holiday is over. I'm thinking that it's
going to be somewhat crowded out there this weekend. What do you think?
Feel free to email me at alex.cordero@gmail.com for off-topic answers.
alex
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> We don't have repeaters in our deserts yet, at least along highway
> 78 near Ocotillo Wells where I camp. I have hooked up with Mexico, about
> thirty miles south, but you don't want to do that, not even in an
> emergency. Lots of skip for a CB radio, though.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> > pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> > pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> > are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> > frame can rust too.
> >
> > Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
> > chargers for it. You never know.
> >
> > Earle
11-20-2006, 04:34 PM
#18
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Re: fantastic advice...
Bill, I was just out there this weekend and was thinking of camping out
there again after the t-giving holiday is over. I'm thinking that it's
going to be somewhat crowded out there this weekend. What do you think?
Feel free to email me at alex.cordero@gmail.com for off-topic answers.
alex
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> We don't have repeaters in our deserts yet, at least along highway
> 78 near Ocotillo Wells where I camp. I have hooked up with Mexico, about
> thirty miles south, but you don't want to do that, not even in an
> emergency. Lots of skip for a CB radio, though.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> > pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> > pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> > are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> > frame can rust too.
> >
> > Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
> > chargers for it. You never know.
> >
> > Earle
there again after the t-giving holiday is over. I'm thinking that it's
going to be somewhat crowded out there this weekend. What do you think?
Feel free to email me at alex.cordero@gmail.com for off-topic answers.
alex
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> We don't have repeaters in our deserts yet, at least along highway
> 78 near Ocotillo Wells where I camp. I have hooked up with Mexico, about
> thirty miles south, but you don't want to do that, not even in an
> emergency. Lots of skip for a CB radio, though.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> > pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> > pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> > are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> > frame can rust too.
> >
> > Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
> > chargers for it. You never know.
> >
> > Earle
11-20-2006, 04:34 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: fantastic advice...
Bill, I was just out there this weekend and was thinking of camping out
there again after the t-giving holiday is over. I'm thinking that it's
going to be somewhat crowded out there this weekend. What do you think?
Feel free to email me at alex.cordero@gmail.com for off-topic answers.
alex
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> We don't have repeaters in our deserts yet, at least along highway
> 78 near Ocotillo Wells where I camp. I have hooked up with Mexico, about
> thirty miles south, but you don't want to do that, not even in an
> emergency. Lots of skip for a CB radio, though.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> > pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> > pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> > are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> > frame can rust too.
> >
> > Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
> > chargers for it. You never know.
> >
> > Earle
there again after the t-giving holiday is over. I'm thinking that it's
going to be somewhat crowded out there this weekend. What do you think?
Feel free to email me at alex.cordero@gmail.com for off-topic answers.
alex
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> We don't have repeaters in our deserts yet, at least along highway
> 78 near Ocotillo Wells where I camp. I have hooked up with Mexico, about
> thirty miles south, but you don't want to do that, not even in an
> emergency. Lots of skip for a CB radio, though.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> > pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> > pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> > are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> > frame can rust too.
> >
> > Go with the cell phone provider that works, and get one of those in vehicle
> > chargers for it. You never know.
> >
> > Earle
11-20-2006, 04:41 PM
#20
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Re: fantastic advice...
Earle Horton wrote:
> A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> frame can rust too.
You're right Earl. This dealer doesn't have it listed as excellent but
he's pricing it as such. I see it as "good" and even that's being
optimistic. I'm going to offer him $4200 cash take it or leave it
Mostly because I'm going to drop another $1500 on it to get it back to
kbb excellent condition. I can do some body-work and paint myself but
I need a lot of help with the drive-train stuff.
He had it listed originally at $7k.
-jac
> A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> frame can rust too.
You're right Earl. This dealer doesn't have it listed as excellent but
he's pricing it as such. I see it as "good" and even that's being
optimistic. I'm going to offer him $4200 cash take it or leave it
Mostly because I'm going to drop another $1500 on it to get it back to
kbb excellent condition. I can do some body-work and paint myself but
I need a lot of help with the drive-train stuff.
He had it listed originally at $7k.
-jac
