For Every One with a R-12 AC unit in their vehicle
08-12-2004, 01:01 AM
#101
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Re: Jerry
One very hazy marginal condition (but still legally VFR) hurry-up flight to
return a rented Piper from Palm Springs over the mountains to San Diego was
like that for me late one afternoon. Maybe a touch of spatial
disorientation compounded by tremendous glare from the sun through the
haze... not one of my more fun flights that ended well only by really
concentrating on the instruments and the basics.
Jerry
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Jerry Bransford
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"Will Honea" <hwj25(remove this)@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-LBDLqewFi731@anon.none.net...
> Doesn't even take water or true night - just heading into the sunset
> on a really hazy day over the plains or the desert will come pretty
> close to the same loss of horizonal reference. My biggest problem was
> with young pilots who had just finished their instrument checks and
> were to proud to admit they needed those instruments unless they were
> immersed in cloud.
>
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:35:32 UTC "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Kennedy? Yeah, me too.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:411ACCEE.36B31543@***.net...
> > > I wish John would have said that.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Heh... "at night" and "over water" are two phrases that I will never
put
> > > > together when filing a flight plan. ;)
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > > --
> > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea
return a rented Piper from Palm Springs over the mountains to San Diego was
like that for me late one afternoon. Maybe a touch of spatial
disorientation compounded by tremendous glare from the sun through the
haze... not one of my more fun flights that ended well only by really
concentrating on the instruments and the basics.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Will Honea" <hwj25(remove this)@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-LBDLqewFi731@anon.none.net...
> Doesn't even take water or true night - just heading into the sunset
> on a really hazy day over the plains or the desert will come pretty
> close to the same loss of horizonal reference. My biggest problem was
> with young pilots who had just finished their instrument checks and
> were to proud to admit they needed those instruments unless they were
> immersed in cloud.
>
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:35:32 UTC "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Kennedy? Yeah, me too.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:411ACCEE.36B31543@***.net...
> > > I wish John would have said that.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Heh... "at night" and "over water" are two phrases that I will never
put
> > > > together when filing a flight plan. ;)
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > > --
> > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea
08-12-2004, 11:23 PM
#102
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Re: Jerry
What's the problem, no railroads?
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> Heh, nope, still just a lowly ASEL non-IFR guy. I took the IFR groundschool
> at the local community college and passed the written then took dual time
> plus the max simulator time but ran out of $$$ before finishing the ticket.
> Oh well, at least it's not IFR much around here. ;)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0408101516.21f576de@posting.google.c om...
>
>>>Jerry
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>
>> All this time and you're not commercial, instrument, multi yet? Taken
>>the written even??
>
>
>
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> Heh, nope, still just a lowly ASEL non-IFR guy. I took the IFR groundschool
> at the local community college and passed the written then took dual time
> plus the max simulator time but ran out of $$$ before finishing the ticket.
> Oh well, at least it's not IFR much around here. ;)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0408101516.21f576de@posting.google.c om...
>
>>>Jerry
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>
>> All this time and you're not commercial, instrument, multi yet? Taken
>>the written even??
>
>
>
08-12-2004, 11:23 PM
#103
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Re: Jerry
What's the problem, no railroads?
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> Heh, nope, still just a lowly ASEL non-IFR guy. I took the IFR groundschool
> at the local community college and passed the written then took dual time
> plus the max simulator time but ran out of $$$ before finishing the ticket.
> Oh well, at least it's not IFR much around here. ;)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0408101516.21f576de@posting.google.c om...
>
>>>Jerry
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>
>> All this time and you're not commercial, instrument, multi yet? Taken
>>the written even??
>
>
>
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> Heh, nope, still just a lowly ASEL non-IFR guy. I took the IFR groundschool
> at the local community college and passed the written then took dual time
> plus the max simulator time but ran out of $$$ before finishing the ticket.
> Oh well, at least it's not IFR much around here. ;)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0408101516.21f576de@posting.google.c om...
>
>>>Jerry
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>
>> All this time and you're not commercial, instrument, multi yet? Taken
>>the written even??
>
>
>
08-12-2004, 11:23 PM
#104
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Re: Jerry
What's the problem, no railroads?
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> Heh, nope, still just a lowly ASEL non-IFR guy. I took the IFR groundschool
> at the local community college and passed the written then took dual time
> plus the max simulator time but ran out of $$$ before finishing the ticket.
> Oh well, at least it's not IFR much around here. ;)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0408101516.21f576de@posting.google.c om...
>
>>>Jerry
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>
>> All this time and you're not commercial, instrument, multi yet? Taken
>>the written even??
>
>
>
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> Heh, nope, still just a lowly ASEL non-IFR guy. I took the IFR groundschool
> at the local community college and passed the written then took dual time
> plus the max simulator time but ran out of $$$ before finishing the ticket.
> Oh well, at least it's not IFR much around here. ;)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0408101516.21f576de@posting.google.c om...
>
>>>Jerry
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>
>> All this time and you're not commercial, instrument, multi yet? Taken
>>the written even??
>
>
>
08-12-2004, 11:23 PM
#105
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Re: Jerry
What's the problem, no railroads?
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> Heh, nope, still just a lowly ASEL non-IFR guy. I took the IFR groundschool
> at the local community college and passed the written then took dual time
> plus the max simulator time but ran out of $$$ before finishing the ticket.
> Oh well, at least it's not IFR much around here. ;)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0408101516.21f576de@posting.google.c om...
>
>>>Jerry
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>
>> All this time and you're not commercial, instrument, multi yet? Taken
>>the written even??
>
>
>
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> Heh, nope, still just a lowly ASEL non-IFR guy. I took the IFR groundschool
> at the local community college and passed the written then took dual time
> plus the max simulator time but ran out of $$$ before finishing the ticket.
> Oh well, at least it's not IFR much around here. ;)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0408101516.21f576de@posting.google.c om...
>
>>>Jerry
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>
>> All this time and you're not commercial, instrument, multi yet? Taken
>>the written even??
>
>
>
08-12-2004, 11:40 PM
#106
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Re: Jerry
Not between Palm Springs and San Diego. A friend lived Ranceta,
California for about ten years, at least once a year he'd hear a low
flying plane going full throttle trying to gain altitude, and sure
enough it would hit the next mountain between Palomar Mt. and Julian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> What's the problem, no railroads?
California for about ten years, at least once a year he'd hear a low
flying plane going full throttle trying to gain altitude, and sure
enough it would hit the next mountain between Palomar Mt. and Julian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> What's the problem, no railroads?
08-12-2004, 11:40 PM
#107
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Re: Jerry
Not between Palm Springs and San Diego. A friend lived Ranceta,
California for about ten years, at least once a year he'd hear a low
flying plane going full throttle trying to gain altitude, and sure
enough it would hit the next mountain between Palomar Mt. and Julian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> What's the problem, no railroads?
California for about ten years, at least once a year he'd hear a low
flying plane going full throttle trying to gain altitude, and sure
enough it would hit the next mountain between Palomar Mt. and Julian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> What's the problem, no railroads?
08-12-2004, 11:40 PM
#108
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Re: Jerry
Not between Palm Springs and San Diego. A friend lived Ranceta,
California for about ten years, at least once a year he'd hear a low
flying plane going full throttle trying to gain altitude, and sure
enough it would hit the next mountain between Palomar Mt. and Julian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> What's the problem, no railroads?
California for about ten years, at least once a year he'd hear a low
flying plane going full throttle trying to gain altitude, and sure
enough it would hit the next mountain between Palomar Mt. and Julian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> What's the problem, no railroads?
08-12-2004, 11:40 PM
#109
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Re: Jerry
Not between Palm Springs and San Diego. A friend lived Ranceta,
California for about ten years, at least once a year he'd hear a low
flying plane going full throttle trying to gain altitude, and sure
enough it would hit the next mountain between Palomar Mt. and Julian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> What's the problem, no railroads?
California for about ten years, at least once a year he'd hear a low
flying plane going full throttle trying to gain altitude, and sure
enough it would hit the next mountain between Palomar Mt. and Julian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> What's the problem, no railroads?
08-13-2004, 10:59 PM
#110
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Re: Jerry
..or in pilot terms, a low laying bank of cumulogranitus.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Not between Palm Springs and San Diego. A friend lived Ranceta,
> California for about ten years, at least once a year he'd hear a low
> flying plane going full throttle trying to gain altitude, and sure
> enough it would hit the next mountain between Palomar Mt. and Julian.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Not between Palm Springs and San Diego. A friend lived Ranceta,
> California for about ten years, at least once a year he'd hear a low
> flying plane going full throttle trying to gain altitude, and sure
> enough it would hit the next mountain between Palomar Mt. and Julian.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/