Engine swap
#21
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Re: Engine swap
The modern smallblock is a fully electronic engine. Late model ones
can be fitted with a carb, but they are distributorless so you need an
expensive conversion electronic ignition setup.
Most people WANT electronic engines today-for drivability and fuel
mileage and power, plus, unless you are in a no inspection state,
putting a CPU-less engine in a late model chassis is almost impossible.
About the only way around it might be if you ran LPG or CNG and even
then some states would still demand all the stuff that was there still
be-cat con, air pump, EGR, et al.
There are after market electronic control systems that give you full
programmability over RS-232 instead of automotive -------- protocols,
adapt to most crank and cam position sensors and MAFs, and fire most
common injectors, but they are either high dollar or are DIY projects
you need to build from boards and write the firmware in assembler or
C++.
The AMC six just isn't all that bad an engine really....
can be fitted with a carb, but they are distributorless so you need an
expensive conversion electronic ignition setup.
Most people WANT electronic engines today-for drivability and fuel
mileage and power, plus, unless you are in a no inspection state,
putting a CPU-less engine in a late model chassis is almost impossible.
About the only way around it might be if you ran LPG or CNG and even
then some states would still demand all the stuff that was there still
be-cat con, air pump, EGR, et al.
There are after market electronic control systems that give you full
programmability over RS-232 instead of automotive -------- protocols,
adapt to most crank and cam position sensors and MAFs, and fire most
common injectors, but they are either high dollar or are DIY projects
you need to build from boards and write the firmware in assembler or
C++.
The AMC six just isn't all that bad an engine really....
#22
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Re: Engine swap
I agree that the AMC 6 is a decent engine for that purpose.
I was thinking that to upgrade from the 4 banger to the 6 would be a logical
one, probably mostly bolt in and since it is sticking with the same car
company, maybe even the electronics will be a bit more compatible. I guess
I was mostly wondering about the ease of the upgrade. If some poor bastard
rolled his Wrangler and it had the 6 cyl and a guy could buy the whole
wrecked rig, then maybe the transplant would not be such a big deal. Would
the manual transmission from the 4 cyl bolt up to the 6? If it does, would
it stay together with the increased power/torque? That's the kind of
information I was looking for when I first posted the messge. Thought that
somebody out there had done this and would point me in the right direction.
Since we are in Idaho, and most of the area has no emission testing yet, we
could probably get by with about any modification we wanted.
#23
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Re: Engine swap
I agree that the AMC 6 is a decent engine for that purpose.
I was thinking that to upgrade from the 4 banger to the 6 would be a logical
one, probably mostly bolt in and since it is sticking with the same car
company, maybe even the electronics will be a bit more compatible. I guess
I was mostly wondering about the ease of the upgrade. If some poor bastard
rolled his Wrangler and it had the 6 cyl and a guy could buy the whole
wrecked rig, then maybe the transplant would not be such a big deal. Would
the manual transmission from the 4 cyl bolt up to the 6? If it does, would
it stay together with the increased power/torque? That's the kind of
information I was looking for when I first posted the messge. Thought that
somebody out there had done this and would point me in the right direction.
Since we are in Idaho, and most of the area has no emission testing yet, we
could probably get by with about any modification we wanted.
#24
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Re: Engine swap
I agree that the AMC 6 is a decent engine for that purpose.
I was thinking that to upgrade from the 4 banger to the 6 would be a logical
one, probably mostly bolt in and since it is sticking with the same car
company, maybe even the electronics will be a bit more compatible. I guess
I was mostly wondering about the ease of the upgrade. If some poor bastard
rolled his Wrangler and it had the 6 cyl and a guy could buy the whole
wrecked rig, then maybe the transplant would not be such a big deal. Would
the manual transmission from the 4 cyl bolt up to the 6? If it does, would
it stay together with the increased power/torque? That's the kind of
information I was looking for when I first posted the messge. Thought that
somebody out there had done this and would point me in the right direction.
Since we are in Idaho, and most of the area has no emission testing yet, we
could probably get by with about any modification we wanted.
#25
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Re: Engine swap
I agree that the AMC 6 is a decent engine for that purpose.
I was thinking that to upgrade from the 4 banger to the 6 would be a logical
one, probably mostly bolt in and since it is sticking with the same car
company, maybe even the electronics will be a bit more compatible. I guess
I was mostly wondering about the ease of the upgrade. If some poor bastard
rolled his Wrangler and it had the 6 cyl and a guy could buy the whole
wrecked rig, then maybe the transplant would not be such a big deal. Would
the manual transmission from the 4 cyl bolt up to the 6? If it does, would
it stay together with the increased power/torque? That's the kind of
information I was looking for when I first posted the messge. Thought that
somebody out there had done this and would point me in the right direction.
Since we are in Idaho, and most of the area has no emission testing yet, we
could probably get by with about any modification we wanted.
#26
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Re: Engine swap
This site has ALL the answers for engine swapping ;-) I am impressed with
the amount of info here for anybody contemplating an engine swap.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...es_general.htm
Found it in an earlier post.
the amount of info here for anybody contemplating an engine swap.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...es_general.htm
Found it in an earlier post.
#27
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Re: Engine swap
This site has ALL the answers for engine swapping ;-) I am impressed with
the amount of info here for anybody contemplating an engine swap.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...es_general.htm
Found it in an earlier post.
the amount of info here for anybody contemplating an engine swap.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...es_general.htm
Found it in an earlier post.
#28
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Re: Engine swap
This site has ALL the answers for engine swapping ;-) I am impressed with
the amount of info here for anybody contemplating an engine swap.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...es_general.htm
Found it in an earlier post.
the amount of info here for anybody contemplating an engine swap.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...es_general.htm
Found it in an earlier post.
#29
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Re: Engine swap
This site has ALL the answers for engine swapping ;-) I am impressed with
the amount of info here for anybody contemplating an engine swap.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...es_general.htm
Found it in an earlier post.
the amount of info here for anybody contemplating an engine swap.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...es_general.htm
Found it in an earlier post.
#30
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Re: Engine swap
Apples and oranges: http://www.----------.com/ax5_ax15.jpg Take the
transmission and different input spline transfer, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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"William G." wrote:
>
> I agree that the AMC 6 is a decent engine for that purpose.
> I was thinking that to upgrade from the 4 banger to the 6 would be a logical
> one, probably mostly bolt in and since it is sticking with the same car
> company, maybe even the electronics will be a bit more compatible. I guess
> I was mostly wondering about the ease of the upgrade. If some poor bastard
> rolled his Wrangler and it had the 6 cyl and a guy could buy the whole
> wrecked rig, then maybe the transplant would not be such a big deal. Would
> the manual transmission from the 4 cyl bolt up to the 6? If it does, would
> it stay together with the increased power/torque? That's the kind of
> information I was looking for when I first posted the messge. Thought that
> somebody out there had done this and would point me in the right direction.
> Since we are in Idaho, and most of the area has no emission testing yet, we
> could probably get by with about any modification we wanted.
transmission and different input spline transfer, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"William G." wrote:
>
> I agree that the AMC 6 is a decent engine for that purpose.
> I was thinking that to upgrade from the 4 banger to the 6 would be a logical
> one, probably mostly bolt in and since it is sticking with the same car
> company, maybe even the electronics will be a bit more compatible. I guess
> I was mostly wondering about the ease of the upgrade. If some poor bastard
> rolled his Wrangler and it had the 6 cyl and a guy could buy the whole
> wrecked rig, then maybe the transplant would not be such a big deal. Would
> the manual transmission from the 4 cyl bolt up to the 6? If it does, would
> it stay together with the increased power/torque? That's the kind of
> information I was looking for when I first posted the messge. Thought that
> somebody out there had done this and would point me in the right direction.
> Since we are in Idaho, and most of the area has no emission testing yet, we
> could probably get by with about any modification we wanted.