Engine oil advice
02-20-2006, 03:58 PM
#31
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Re: Engine oil advice
Yes, I sub contracted for Upjohn in Houston a giant looking oil
refinery, it's only product was One-A-Day vitamins.
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Lon wrote:
>
> Persuing this train of logic, much of the food you eat is just that same
> dino oil refined to basestocks and then synthesized into various
> foodstuffs and ingredients.
refinery, it's only product was One-A-Day vitamins.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Lon wrote:
>
> Persuing this train of logic, much of the food you eat is just that same
> dino oil refined to basestocks and then synthesized into various
> foodstuffs and ingredients.
02-20-2006, 03:58 PM
#32
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Re: Engine oil advice
Yes, I sub contracted for Upjohn in Houston a giant looking oil
refinery, it's only product was One-A-Day vitamins.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> Persuing this train of logic, much of the food you eat is just that same
> dino oil refined to basestocks and then synthesized into various
> foodstuffs and ingredients.
refinery, it's only product was One-A-Day vitamins.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> Persuing this train of logic, much of the food you eat is just that same
> dino oil refined to basestocks and then synthesized into various
> foodstuffs and ingredients.
02-20-2006, 03:58 PM
#33
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Re: Engine oil advice
Yes, I sub contracted for Upjohn in Houston a giant looking oil
refinery, it's only product was One-A-Day vitamins.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> Persuing this train of logic, much of the food you eat is just that same
> dino oil refined to basestocks and then synthesized into various
> foodstuffs and ingredients.
refinery, it's only product was One-A-Day vitamins.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> Persuing this train of logic, much of the food you eat is just that same
> dino oil refined to basestocks and then synthesized into various
> foodstuffs and ingredients.
02-20-2006, 04:15 PM
#34
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Re: Engine oil advice
To me, "synthetic oil" would be something made from other than petroleum.
Like corn or straight from the CO2 in the atmosphere. Or C12 atoms made by
fusion from primordial interstellar hydrogen. From this discussion and
other sources, it appears that synthetic, that you buy off the shelf in
AutoZone or wherever, has just been subjected to a few more refining steps.
Hopefully, this means that it is free of wax and varnish molecules that
might interfere with effective lubrication, but you don't really know that.
As far as its value as a lubricant, well I just don't know that either.
However, I put a synthetic gear oil in the rear of my Suburban on the advice
of a local mechanic, who claimed it would save fuel. The price difference
was a couple dollars, what the heck.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Yup, petroleum is a renewable resource.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billzz wrote:
> >
> > Continuing the same thought, why stop at dinos? They died out millions
of
> > years ago. Since then many billions of humans have been buried and
> > recycled, the proteins leaching down into the soil to be returned as
> > nutritional corn or poison ivy. When someone says they see the face of
> > Hiawatha in a potato, it might be.
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Like corn or straight from the CO2 in the atmosphere. Or C12 atoms made by
fusion from primordial interstellar hydrogen. From this discussion and
other sources, it appears that synthetic, that you buy off the shelf in
AutoZone or wherever, has just been subjected to a few more refining steps.
Hopefully, this means that it is free of wax and varnish molecules that
might interfere with effective lubrication, but you don't really know that.
As far as its value as a lubricant, well I just don't know that either.
However, I put a synthetic gear oil in the rear of my Suburban on the advice
of a local mechanic, who claimed it would save fuel. The price difference
was a couple dollars, what the heck.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43FA2BD2.8F4E9437@***.net...
> Yup, petroleum is a renewable resource.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billzz wrote:
> >
> > Continuing the same thought, why stop at dinos? They died out millions
of
> > years ago. Since then many billions of humans have been buried and
> > recycled, the proteins leaching down into the soil to be returned as
> > nutritional corn or poison ivy. When someone says they see the face of
> > Hiawatha in a potato, it might be.
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02-20-2006, 04:15 PM
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Re: Engine oil advice
To me, "synthetic oil" would be something made from other than petroleum.
Like corn or straight from the CO2 in the atmosphere. Or C12 atoms made by
fusion from primordial interstellar hydrogen. From this discussion and
other sources, it appears that synthetic, that you buy off the shelf in
AutoZone or wherever, has just been subjected to a few more refining steps.
Hopefully, this means that it is free of wax and varnish molecules that
might interfere with effective lubrication, but you don't really know that.
As far as its value as a lubricant, well I just don't know that either.
However, I put a synthetic gear oil in the rear of my Suburban on the advice
of a local mechanic, who claimed it would save fuel. The price difference
was a couple dollars, what the heck.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43FA2BD2.8F4E9437@***.net...
> Yup, petroleum is a renewable resource.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billzz wrote:
> >
> > Continuing the same thought, why stop at dinos? They died out millions
of
> > years ago. Since then many billions of humans have been buried and
> > recycled, the proteins leaching down into the soil to be returned as
> > nutritional corn or poison ivy. When someone says they see the face of
> > Hiawatha in a potato, it might be.
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Like corn or straight from the CO2 in the atmosphere. Or C12 atoms made by
fusion from primordial interstellar hydrogen. From this discussion and
other sources, it appears that synthetic, that you buy off the shelf in
AutoZone or wherever, has just been subjected to a few more refining steps.
Hopefully, this means that it is free of wax and varnish molecules that
might interfere with effective lubrication, but you don't really know that.
As far as its value as a lubricant, well I just don't know that either.
However, I put a synthetic gear oil in the rear of my Suburban on the advice
of a local mechanic, who claimed it would save fuel. The price difference
was a couple dollars, what the heck.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43FA2BD2.8F4E9437@***.net...
> Yup, petroleum is a renewable resource.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billzz wrote:
> >
> > Continuing the same thought, why stop at dinos? They died out millions
of
> > years ago. Since then many billions of humans have been buried and
> > recycled, the proteins leaching down into the soil to be returned as
> > nutritional corn or poison ivy. When someone says they see the face of
> > Hiawatha in a potato, it might be.
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02-20-2006, 04:15 PM
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Re: Engine oil advice
To me, "synthetic oil" would be something made from other than petroleum.
Like corn or straight from the CO2 in the atmosphere. Or C12 atoms made by
fusion from primordial interstellar hydrogen. From this discussion and
other sources, it appears that synthetic, that you buy off the shelf in
AutoZone or wherever, has just been subjected to a few more refining steps.
Hopefully, this means that it is free of wax and varnish molecules that
might interfere with effective lubrication, but you don't really know that.
As far as its value as a lubricant, well I just don't know that either.
However, I put a synthetic gear oil in the rear of my Suburban on the advice
of a local mechanic, who claimed it would save fuel. The price difference
was a couple dollars, what the heck.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43FA2BD2.8F4E9437@***.net...
> Yup, petroleum is a renewable resource.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billzz wrote:
> >
> > Continuing the same thought, why stop at dinos? They died out millions
of
> > years ago. Since then many billions of humans have been buried and
> > recycled, the proteins leaching down into the soil to be returned as
> > nutritional corn or poison ivy. When someone says they see the face of
> > Hiawatha in a potato, it might be.
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Like corn or straight from the CO2 in the atmosphere. Or C12 atoms made by
fusion from primordial interstellar hydrogen. From this discussion and
other sources, it appears that synthetic, that you buy off the shelf in
AutoZone or wherever, has just been subjected to a few more refining steps.
Hopefully, this means that it is free of wax and varnish molecules that
might interfere with effective lubrication, but you don't really know that.
As far as its value as a lubricant, well I just don't know that either.
However, I put a synthetic gear oil in the rear of my Suburban on the advice
of a local mechanic, who claimed it would save fuel. The price difference
was a couple dollars, what the heck.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43FA2BD2.8F4E9437@***.net...
> Yup, petroleum is a renewable resource.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billzz wrote:
> >
> > Continuing the same thought, why stop at dinos? They died out millions
of
> > years ago. Since then many billions of humans have been buried and
> > recycled, the proteins leaching down into the soil to be returned as
> > nutritional corn or poison ivy. When someone says they see the face of
> > Hiawatha in a potato, it might be.
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02-20-2006, 04:15 PM
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Re: Engine oil advice
To me, "synthetic oil" would be something made from other than petroleum.
Like corn or straight from the CO2 in the atmosphere. Or C12 atoms made by
fusion from primordial interstellar hydrogen. From this discussion and
other sources, it appears that synthetic, that you buy off the shelf in
AutoZone or wherever, has just been subjected to a few more refining steps.
Hopefully, this means that it is free of wax and varnish molecules that
might interfere with effective lubrication, but you don't really know that.
As far as its value as a lubricant, well I just don't know that either.
However, I put a synthetic gear oil in the rear of my Suburban on the advice
of a local mechanic, who claimed it would save fuel. The price difference
was a couple dollars, what the heck.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43FA2BD2.8F4E9437@***.net...
> Yup, petroleum is a renewable resource.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billzz wrote:
> >
> > Continuing the same thought, why stop at dinos? They died out millions
of
> > years ago. Since then many billions of humans have been buried and
> > recycled, the proteins leaching down into the soil to be returned as
> > nutritional corn or poison ivy. When someone says they see the face of
> > Hiawatha in a potato, it might be.
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Like corn or straight from the CO2 in the atmosphere. Or C12 atoms made by
fusion from primordial interstellar hydrogen. From this discussion and
other sources, it appears that synthetic, that you buy off the shelf in
AutoZone or wherever, has just been subjected to a few more refining steps.
Hopefully, this means that it is free of wax and varnish molecules that
might interfere with effective lubrication, but you don't really know that.
As far as its value as a lubricant, well I just don't know that either.
However, I put a synthetic gear oil in the rear of my Suburban on the advice
of a local mechanic, who claimed it would save fuel. The price difference
was a couple dollars, what the heck.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43FA2BD2.8F4E9437@***.net...
> Yup, petroleum is a renewable resource.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billzz wrote:
> >
> > Continuing the same thought, why stop at dinos? They died out millions
of
> > years ago. Since then many billions of humans have been buried and
> > recycled, the proteins leaching down into the soil to be returned as
> > nutritional corn or poison ivy. When someone says they see the face of
> > Hiawatha in a potato, it might be.
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02-20-2006, 10:13 PM
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Re: Engine oil advice
Don't use Quaker State. It is full of fly ash, which leaves gooey deposits
in the engine. A mechanic friend took one apart in front of me once, showed
me how bad it could be.
My opinion is, use a synthetic, if you are going to drive a lot. They are
more expensive, but they are better, more reliable and uniform viscosity
than petroleum products.
A different mechanic friend told me that one should not go back and forth
between synthetic and regular. It will make your engine an oil burner. I
don't understand why, but he is a good and experienced mechanic.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:kt6Kf.5863$Tf3.2600@dukeread09...
> ambrin did pass the time by typing:
>> I've always used Quaker State oil in my gasoline engines.
>>
>> My 97 TJ 2.5L 5spd will use 10w-30 year round, or so the books say.
>>
>> I know that some folks here have used synthetic engine oil.
>>
>> Any recommendations/advice as to benefits of synthetics?
>
> Benefits... dunno. I've tried everything from synthetic/mix/dino
> and noticed exactly nothing. Regular changes are the key. With
> synthetics you can stretch things a bit longer. Cost-wise I think
> it's about dead even.
>
> The only benefit to the pure synthetic was when I go to higher/colder
> climates. It seems to run better than dinosludge does. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>
in the engine. A mechanic friend took one apart in front of me once, showed
me how bad it could be.
My opinion is, use a synthetic, if you are going to drive a lot. They are
more expensive, but they are better, more reliable and uniform viscosity
than petroleum products.
A different mechanic friend told me that one should not go back and forth
between synthetic and regular. It will make your engine an oil burner. I
don't understand why, but he is a good and experienced mechanic.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:kt6Kf.5863$Tf3.2600@dukeread09...
> ambrin did pass the time by typing:
>> I've always used Quaker State oil in my gasoline engines.
>>
>> My 97 TJ 2.5L 5spd will use 10w-30 year round, or so the books say.
>>
>> I know that some folks here have used synthetic engine oil.
>>
>> Any recommendations/advice as to benefits of synthetics?
>
> Benefits... dunno. I've tried everything from synthetic/mix/dino
> and noticed exactly nothing. Regular changes are the key. With
> synthetics you can stretch things a bit longer. Cost-wise I think
> it's about dead even.
>
> The only benefit to the pure synthetic was when I go to higher/colder
> climates. It seems to run better than dinosludge does. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>
02-20-2006, 10:13 PM
#39
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Re: Engine oil advice
Don't use Quaker State. It is full of fly ash, which leaves gooey deposits
in the engine. A mechanic friend took one apart in front of me once, showed
me how bad it could be.
My opinion is, use a synthetic, if you are going to drive a lot. They are
more expensive, but they are better, more reliable and uniform viscosity
than petroleum products.
A different mechanic friend told me that one should not go back and forth
between synthetic and regular. It will make your engine an oil burner. I
don't understand why, but he is a good and experienced mechanic.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:kt6Kf.5863$Tf3.2600@dukeread09...
> ambrin did pass the time by typing:
>> I've always used Quaker State oil in my gasoline engines.
>>
>> My 97 TJ 2.5L 5spd will use 10w-30 year round, or so the books say.
>>
>> I know that some folks here have used synthetic engine oil.
>>
>> Any recommendations/advice as to benefits of synthetics?
>
> Benefits... dunno. I've tried everything from synthetic/mix/dino
> and noticed exactly nothing. Regular changes are the key. With
> synthetics you can stretch things a bit longer. Cost-wise I think
> it's about dead even.
>
> The only benefit to the pure synthetic was when I go to higher/colder
> climates. It seems to run better than dinosludge does. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>
in the engine. A mechanic friend took one apart in front of me once, showed
me how bad it could be.
My opinion is, use a synthetic, if you are going to drive a lot. They are
more expensive, but they are better, more reliable and uniform viscosity
than petroleum products.
A different mechanic friend told me that one should not go back and forth
between synthetic and regular. It will make your engine an oil burner. I
don't understand why, but he is a good and experienced mechanic.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:kt6Kf.5863$Tf3.2600@dukeread09...
> ambrin did pass the time by typing:
>> I've always used Quaker State oil in my gasoline engines.
>>
>> My 97 TJ 2.5L 5spd will use 10w-30 year round, or so the books say.
>>
>> I know that some folks here have used synthetic engine oil.
>>
>> Any recommendations/advice as to benefits of synthetics?
>
> Benefits... dunno. I've tried everything from synthetic/mix/dino
> and noticed exactly nothing. Regular changes are the key. With
> synthetics you can stretch things a bit longer. Cost-wise I think
> it's about dead even.
>
> The only benefit to the pure synthetic was when I go to higher/colder
> climates. It seems to run better than dinosludge does. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>
02-20-2006, 10:13 PM
#40
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Re: Engine oil advice
Don't use Quaker State. It is full of fly ash, which leaves gooey deposits
in the engine. A mechanic friend took one apart in front of me once, showed
me how bad it could be.
My opinion is, use a synthetic, if you are going to drive a lot. They are
more expensive, but they are better, more reliable and uniform viscosity
than petroleum products.
A different mechanic friend told me that one should not go back and forth
between synthetic and regular. It will make your engine an oil burner. I
don't understand why, but he is a good and experienced mechanic.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:kt6Kf.5863$Tf3.2600@dukeread09...
> ambrin did pass the time by typing:
>> I've always used Quaker State oil in my gasoline engines.
>>
>> My 97 TJ 2.5L 5spd will use 10w-30 year round, or so the books say.
>>
>> I know that some folks here have used synthetic engine oil.
>>
>> Any recommendations/advice as to benefits of synthetics?
>
> Benefits... dunno. I've tried everything from synthetic/mix/dino
> and noticed exactly nothing. Regular changes are the key. With
> synthetics you can stretch things a bit longer. Cost-wise I think
> it's about dead even.
>
> The only benefit to the pure synthetic was when I go to higher/colder
> climates. It seems to run better than dinosludge does. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>
in the engine. A mechanic friend took one apart in front of me once, showed
me how bad it could be.
My opinion is, use a synthetic, if you are going to drive a lot. They are
more expensive, but they are better, more reliable and uniform viscosity
than petroleum products.
A different mechanic friend told me that one should not go back and forth
between synthetic and regular. It will make your engine an oil burner. I
don't understand why, but he is a good and experienced mechanic.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:kt6Kf.5863$Tf3.2600@dukeread09...
> ambrin did pass the time by typing:
>> I've always used Quaker State oil in my gasoline engines.
>>
>> My 97 TJ 2.5L 5spd will use 10w-30 year round, or so the books say.
>>
>> I know that some folks here have used synthetic engine oil.
>>
>> Any recommendations/advice as to benefits of synthetics?
>
> Benefits... dunno. I've tried everything from synthetic/mix/dino
> and noticed exactly nothing. Regular changes are the key. With
> synthetics you can stretch things a bit longer. Cost-wise I think
> it's about dead even.
>
> The only benefit to the pure synthetic was when I go to higher/colder
> climates. It seems to run better than dinosludge does. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>