Engine dies out.
05-07-2004, 02:44 AM
#1
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Engine dies out.
Engine dies out.
Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
before the same things happens again.
Any suggestions?
Best Regards
Geir R.Pettersson
grp.arctic@heating.no
http://www.arctic-heating.com
Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
before the same things happens again.
Any suggestions?
Best Regards
Geir R.Pettersson
grp.arctic@heating.no
http://www.arctic-heating.com
05-07-2004, 03:15 AM
#2
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Re: Engine dies out.
I know of nothing that may act like discounting the battery other
than bad terminal connections, and that would be pretty weird for that
connect to start the engine after. I have seen shorts that strong in an
alternator that would kill the engine and then lose it centrifugal
connection then be able to start the engine and have it run perfect
until the next time you reached that RPM to short again. If it was just
killing the engine than the Crankcase Position Sensor is usually the
culprit:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
At your mileage the fuel pump will be on it's last leg, and could be
acting up. I don't know, tell us when you find the cause.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
>
> Engine dies out.
>
> Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
>
> Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
>
> Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
>
> Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> before the same things happens again.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Best Regards
> Geir R.Pettersson
> grp.arctic@heating.no
> http://www.arctic-heating.com
than bad terminal connections, and that would be pretty weird for that
connect to start the engine after. I have seen shorts that strong in an
alternator that would kill the engine and then lose it centrifugal
connection then be able to start the engine and have it run perfect
until the next time you reached that RPM to short again. If it was just
killing the engine than the Crankcase Position Sensor is usually the
culprit:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
At your mileage the fuel pump will be on it's last leg, and could be
acting up. I don't know, tell us when you find the cause.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
>
> Engine dies out.
>
> Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
>
> Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
>
> Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
>
> Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> before the same things happens again.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Best Regards
> Geir R.Pettersson
> grp.arctic@heating.no
> http://www.arctic-heating.com
05-07-2004, 03:15 AM
#3
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Re: Engine dies out.
I know of nothing that may act like discounting the battery other
than bad terminal connections, and that would be pretty weird for that
connect to start the engine after. I have seen shorts that strong in an
alternator that would kill the engine and then lose it centrifugal
connection then be able to start the engine and have it run perfect
until the next time you reached that RPM to short again. If it was just
killing the engine than the Crankcase Position Sensor is usually the
culprit:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
At your mileage the fuel pump will be on it's last leg, and could be
acting up. I don't know, tell us when you find the cause.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
>
> Engine dies out.
>
> Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
>
> Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
>
> Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
>
> Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> before the same things happens again.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Best Regards
> Geir R.Pettersson
> grp.arctic@heating.no
> http://www.arctic-heating.com
than bad terminal connections, and that would be pretty weird for that
connect to start the engine after. I have seen shorts that strong in an
alternator that would kill the engine and then lose it centrifugal
connection then be able to start the engine and have it run perfect
until the next time you reached that RPM to short again. If it was just
killing the engine than the Crankcase Position Sensor is usually the
culprit:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
At your mileage the fuel pump will be on it's last leg, and could be
acting up. I don't know, tell us when you find the cause.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
>
> Engine dies out.
>
> Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
>
> Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
>
> Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
>
> Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> before the same things happens again.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Best Regards
> Geir R.Pettersson
> grp.arctic@heating.no
> http://www.arctic-heating.com
05-07-2004, 03:15 AM
#4
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Re: Engine dies out.
I know of nothing that may act like discounting the battery other
than bad terminal connections, and that would be pretty weird for that
connect to start the engine after. I have seen shorts that strong in an
alternator that would kill the engine and then lose it centrifugal
connection then be able to start the engine and have it run perfect
until the next time you reached that RPM to short again. If it was just
killing the engine than the Crankcase Position Sensor is usually the
culprit:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
At your mileage the fuel pump will be on it's last leg, and could be
acting up. I don't know, tell us when you find the cause.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
>
> Engine dies out.
>
> Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
>
> Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
>
> Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
>
> Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> before the same things happens again.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Best Regards
> Geir R.Pettersson
> grp.arctic@heating.no
> http://www.arctic-heating.com
than bad terminal connections, and that would be pretty weird for that
connect to start the engine after. I have seen shorts that strong in an
alternator that would kill the engine and then lose it centrifugal
connection then be able to start the engine and have it run perfect
until the next time you reached that RPM to short again. If it was just
killing the engine than the Crankcase Position Sensor is usually the
culprit:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
At your mileage the fuel pump will be on it's last leg, and could be
acting up. I don't know, tell us when you find the cause.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
>
> Engine dies out.
>
> Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
>
> Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
>
> Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
>
> Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> before the same things happens again.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Best Regards
> Geir R.Pettersson
> grp.arctic@heating.no
> http://www.arctic-heating.com
05-07-2004, 03:15 AM
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Re: Engine dies out.
I know of nothing that may act like discounting the battery other
than bad terminal connections, and that would be pretty weird for that
connect to start the engine after. I have seen shorts that strong in an
alternator that would kill the engine and then lose it centrifugal
connection then be able to start the engine and have it run perfect
until the next time you reached that RPM to short again. If it was just
killing the engine than the Crankcase Position Sensor is usually the
culprit:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
At your mileage the fuel pump will be on it's last leg, and could be
acting up. I don't know, tell us when you find the cause.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
>
> Engine dies out.
>
> Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
>
> Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
>
> Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
>
> Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> before the same things happens again.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Best Regards
> Geir R.Pettersson
> grp.arctic@heating.no
> http://www.arctic-heating.com
than bad terminal connections, and that would be pretty weird for that
connect to start the engine after. I have seen shorts that strong in an
alternator that would kill the engine and then lose it centrifugal
connection then be able to start the engine and have it run perfect
until the next time you reached that RPM to short again. If it was just
killing the engine than the Crankcase Position Sensor is usually the
culprit:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
At your mileage the fuel pump will be on it's last leg, and could be
acting up. I don't know, tell us when you find the cause.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
>
> Engine dies out.
>
> Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
>
> Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
>
> Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
>
> Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> before the same things happens again.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Best Regards
> Geir R.Pettersson
> grp.arctic@heating.no
> http://www.arctic-heating.com
05-07-2004, 09:56 AM
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Re: Engine dies out.
He says "no lights at all are blinking" -- I wonder if that includes his
headlights? You might be spot on with thinking of the battery, if he's
got a really cruddy connection someplace the starter will pull enough amps
to arc across it and weld a tiny path while cranking. Engine vibration
then shakes it loose and he loses everything electrical. I once had a
Malibu that would occasionally have a complete electrical failure while
driving (lots of fun in high-speed traffic), as soon as I hit a bump it
would come right back. It turned out to be the battery cable connection
at the starter was loose.
Geir should disassemble, clean and reassemble all the heavy cable
connections and check the ground strap from the back of the engine to the
firewall. It is an uninsulated flat braided wire strap about 1/4" wide.
On Fri, 7 May 2004, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I know of nothing that may act like discounting the battery other
> than bad terminal connections, and that would be pretty weird for that
> connect to start the engine after. I have seen shorts that strong in an
> alternator that would kill the engine and then lose it centrifugal
> connection then be able to start the engine and have it run perfect
> until the next time you reached that RPM to short again. If it was just
> killing the engine than the Crankcase Position Sensor is usually the
> culprit:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> At your mileage the fuel pump will be on it's last leg, and could be
> acting up. I don't know, tell us when you find the cause.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
> >
> > Engine dies out.
> >
> > Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
> >
> > Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
> >
> > Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> > start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> > no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> > the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> > happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
> >
> > Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> > before the same things happens again.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Geir R.Pettersson
> > grp.arctic@heating.no
> > http://www.arctic-heating.com
>
05-07-2004, 09:56 AM
#7
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Re: Engine dies out.
He says "no lights at all are blinking" -- I wonder if that includes his
headlights? You might be spot on with thinking of the battery, if he's
got a really cruddy connection someplace the starter will pull enough amps
to arc across it and weld a tiny path while cranking. Engine vibration
then shakes it loose and he loses everything electrical. I once had a
Malibu that would occasionally have a complete electrical failure while
driving (lots of fun in high-speed traffic), as soon as I hit a bump it
would come right back. It turned out to be the battery cable connection
at the starter was loose.
Geir should disassemble, clean and reassemble all the heavy cable
connections and check the ground strap from the back of the engine to the
firewall. It is an uninsulated flat braided wire strap about 1/4" wide.
On Fri, 7 May 2004, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I know of nothing that may act like discounting the battery other
> than bad terminal connections, and that would be pretty weird for that
> connect to start the engine after. I have seen shorts that strong in an
> alternator that would kill the engine and then lose it centrifugal
> connection then be able to start the engine and have it run perfect
> until the next time you reached that RPM to short again. If it was just
> killing the engine than the Crankcase Position Sensor is usually the
> culprit:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> At your mileage the fuel pump will be on it's last leg, and could be
> acting up. I don't know, tell us when you find the cause.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
> >
> > Engine dies out.
> >
> > Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
> >
> > Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
> >
> > Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> > start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> > no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> > the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> > happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
> >
> > Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> > before the same things happens again.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Geir R.Pettersson
> > grp.arctic@heating.no
> > http://www.arctic-heating.com
>
05-07-2004, 09:56 AM
#8
Guest
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Re: Engine dies out.
He says "no lights at all are blinking" -- I wonder if that includes his
headlights? You might be spot on with thinking of the battery, if he's
got a really cruddy connection someplace the starter will pull enough amps
to arc across it and weld a tiny path while cranking. Engine vibration
then shakes it loose and he loses everything electrical. I once had a
Malibu that would occasionally have a complete electrical failure while
driving (lots of fun in high-speed traffic), as soon as I hit a bump it
would come right back. It turned out to be the battery cable connection
at the starter was loose.
Geir should disassemble, clean and reassemble all the heavy cable
connections and check the ground strap from the back of the engine to the
firewall. It is an uninsulated flat braided wire strap about 1/4" wide.
On Fri, 7 May 2004, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I know of nothing that may act like discounting the battery other
> than bad terminal connections, and that would be pretty weird for that
> connect to start the engine after. I have seen shorts that strong in an
> alternator that would kill the engine and then lose it centrifugal
> connection then be able to start the engine and have it run perfect
> until the next time you reached that RPM to short again. If it was just
> killing the engine than the Crankcase Position Sensor is usually the
> culprit:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> At your mileage the fuel pump will be on it's last leg, and could be
> acting up. I don't know, tell us when you find the cause.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
> >
> > Engine dies out.
> >
> > Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
> >
> > Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
> >
> > Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> > start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> > no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> > the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> > happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
> >
> > Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> > before the same things happens again.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Geir R.Pettersson
> > grp.arctic@heating.no
> > http://www.arctic-heating.com
>
05-07-2004, 09:56 AM
#9
Guest
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Re: Engine dies out.
He says "no lights at all are blinking" -- I wonder if that includes his
headlights? You might be spot on with thinking of the battery, if he's
got a really cruddy connection someplace the starter will pull enough amps
to arc across it and weld a tiny path while cranking. Engine vibration
then shakes it loose and he loses everything electrical. I once had a
Malibu that would occasionally have a complete electrical failure while
driving (lots of fun in high-speed traffic), as soon as I hit a bump it
would come right back. It turned out to be the battery cable connection
at the starter was loose.
Geir should disassemble, clean and reassemble all the heavy cable
connections and check the ground strap from the back of the engine to the
firewall. It is an uninsulated flat braided wire strap about 1/4" wide.
On Fri, 7 May 2004, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I know of nothing that may act like discounting the battery other
> than bad terminal connections, and that would be pretty weird for that
> connect to start the engine after. I have seen shorts that strong in an
> alternator that would kill the engine and then lose it centrifugal
> connection then be able to start the engine and have it run perfect
> until the next time you reached that RPM to short again. If it was just
> killing the engine than the Crankcase Position Sensor is usually the
> culprit:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> At your mileage the fuel pump will be on it's last leg, and could be
> acting up. I don't know, tell us when you find the cause.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
> >
> > Engine dies out.
> >
> > Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
> >
> > Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
> >
> > Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> > start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> > no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> > the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> > happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
> >
> > Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> > before the same things happens again.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Geir R.Pettersson
> > grp.arctic@heating.no
> > http://www.arctic-heating.com
>
05-07-2004, 10:31 AM
#10
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Re: Engine dies out.
Something like that happened to our 88.
It was a rotted mesh ground strap from the rear of the engine head to
the firewall.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
>
> Engine dies out.
>
> Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
>
> Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
>
> Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
>
> Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> before the same things happens again.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Best Regards
> Geir R.Pettersson
> grp.arctic@heating.no
> http://www.arctic-heating.com
It was a rotted mesh ground strap from the rear of the engine head to
the firewall.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Geir R.Pettersson" wrote:
>
> Engine dies out.
>
> Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4.0L Automatic, 6syl. 1988 Mod
>
> Once a week or maybe one time every second week, the engine just stops.
>
> Scenario, I drive for a while and stop the engine, maybe 5 minutes later I
> start the engine and want to drive, then suddenly the engine just stop and
> no lights at all are blinking or showing any sign, they are just dead, as if
> the battery had been taken out. I just start up again, and the same thing
> happens 3-4 more times, I am able to drive maybe 2-3 meters for every time.
>
> Then the fifth time it start again, and I can drive for a week and half
> before the same things happens again.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Best Regards
> Geir R.Pettersson
> grp.arctic@heating.no
> http://www.arctic-heating.com
