Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

After the fiasco the Ontario system has become, I can't see any other
province stupid enough to do it, but hey.....

I love the report on the test car they used. It passed at something
like 60% of the places and needed $500.00 repairs at the rest.

At least my 86 CJ7 won't need another test, but here in Ontario Canada
it is a utility vehicle and only needs the EGR, PCV, gas cap and air
filter flaps to pass.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Snow wrote:
>
> It will arrive soon, its a great little money grab for the Government
> coffers, allows even more raises.
> Keep all the stuff you remove in a box, just incase.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:RopXd.12790$gJ3.1006@clgrps13...
> > They're (the gov) to busy worrying about homosexuals getting married to
> > worry about the enviroment.
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:422E2082.ABA1BD3E@cox.net...
> >> You were knocking on wood, right?
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >
> >> > No emissions testing in alberta
> >
> >

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

After the fiasco the Ontario system has become, I can't see any other
province stupid enough to do it, but hey.....

I love the report on the test car they used. It passed at something
like 60% of the places and needed $500.00 repairs at the rest.

At least my 86 CJ7 won't need another test, but here in Ontario Canada
it is a utility vehicle and only needs the EGR, PCV, gas cap and air
filter flaps to pass.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Snow wrote:
>
> It will arrive soon, its a great little money grab for the Government
> coffers, allows even more raises.
> Keep all the stuff you remove in a box, just incase.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:RopXd.12790$gJ3.1006@clgrps13...
> > They're (the gov) to busy worrying about homosexuals getting married to
> > worry about the enviroment.
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:422E2082.ABA1BD3E@cox.net...
> >> You were knocking on wood, right?
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >
> >> > No emissions testing in alberta
> >
> >

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

Because a 4.2 is a better motor, and you know its history. And that $800
motor you pull will not fit the trans, so you will need to modify that. The
computer won't fit, so you will need that, the exhaust won't fit so you will
need that. (I am advising you to replace the exhaust with a header, so
perhaps that is a bogus problem to have raised.) It will take hours upon
hours to wedge that new 4.0 into your old YJ, and by all accounts the 4.2 is
a better motor. It makes more torque at a lower speed. You can improve it by
getting a 4.0L head for it, that is a good plan. But the MPFI is hands down
without a doubt the better choice. That is, get the 4.0L head and the MPFI,
and you can't do any better. But you can do almost as good, and stlll be
better than a transplanted 4.0, if you just get the MPFI and a header.

After you modify all of the stuff that has to be modified to get the 4.0L
motor into your YJ, you will have spent about as much as you would have
spent putting fuel injection and a header on your 4.2. And, you know where
the 4.2 has been for most of its life, you have a clue where the 4.0 has
been or how hard it has been abused. And, the fuel injection kit will smog
easier because it comes with certification stickers that tell the Smog Nazis
that it has been blessed. You don't seem concerned with Smog Nazis though.




"Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:GcpXd.12786$gJ3.9041@clgrps13...
> Why wouldn't I spend $800 on a pulled 4.0L engine?
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:Wd2dnZDhka3ng7PfRVn-3Q@ez2.net...
> > I'm here to tell you, it't the best pile of dough you will ever spend.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> > news:3anXd.12495$gJ3.3134@clgrps13...
> > > $2000??? This engine has 290km+....The engine is still strong but I
aint
> > > droppin that kinda dough into this thing...
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:AKudnZaqH90Ic7DfRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
> > > > If you live in a Smog State, you should seriously reconsider your
> > actions.
> > > >
> > > > That said, most vacuum is used for smog control. If all vacuum is
> > plugged
> > > > off, you should be OK.
> > > >
> > > > From my own experience, you should spend two grand and install the
> Multi
> > > > Port Fuel Injection kit and a header. The Smog stuff is modified to
> 1994
> > > > levels, but it does remain, and the Smog Nazis will be happy with
your
> > > work.
> > > > You will have much better performance than with any carb set up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:SolXd.12398$gJ3.4912@clgrps13...
> > > > >I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall
> > above
> > > > > the
> > > > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I
> > ditch
> > > > > them too?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

Because a 4.2 is a better motor, and you know its history. And that $800
motor you pull will not fit the trans, so you will need to modify that. The
computer won't fit, so you will need that, the exhaust won't fit so you will
need that. (I am advising you to replace the exhaust with a header, so
perhaps that is a bogus problem to have raised.) It will take hours upon
hours to wedge that new 4.0 into your old YJ, and by all accounts the 4.2 is
a better motor. It makes more torque at a lower speed. You can improve it by
getting a 4.0L head for it, that is a good plan. But the MPFI is hands down
without a doubt the better choice. That is, get the 4.0L head and the MPFI,
and you can't do any better. But you can do almost as good, and stlll be
better than a transplanted 4.0, if you just get the MPFI and a header.

After you modify all of the stuff that has to be modified to get the 4.0L
motor into your YJ, you will have spent about as much as you would have
spent putting fuel injection and a header on your 4.2. And, you know where
the 4.2 has been for most of its life, you have a clue where the 4.0 has
been or how hard it has been abused. And, the fuel injection kit will smog
easier because it comes with certification stickers that tell the Smog Nazis
that it has been blessed. You don't seem concerned with Smog Nazis though.




"Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:GcpXd.12786$gJ3.9041@clgrps13...
> Why wouldn't I spend $800 on a pulled 4.0L engine?
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:Wd2dnZDhka3ng7PfRVn-3Q@ez2.net...
> > I'm here to tell you, it't the best pile of dough you will ever spend.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> > news:3anXd.12495$gJ3.3134@clgrps13...
> > > $2000??? This engine has 290km+....The engine is still strong but I
aint
> > > droppin that kinda dough into this thing...
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:AKudnZaqH90Ic7DfRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
> > > > If you live in a Smog State, you should seriously reconsider your
> > actions.
> > > >
> > > > That said, most vacuum is used for smog control. If all vacuum is
> > plugged
> > > > off, you should be OK.
> > > >
> > > > From my own experience, you should spend two grand and install the
> Multi
> > > > Port Fuel Injection kit and a header. The Smog stuff is modified to
> 1994
> > > > levels, but it does remain, and the Smog Nazis will be happy with
your
> > > work.
> > > > You will have much better performance than with any carb set up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:SolXd.12398$gJ3.4912@clgrps13...
> > > > >I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall
> > above
> > > > > the
> > > > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I
> > ditch
> > > > > them too?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

Because a 4.2 is a better motor, and you know its history. And that $800
motor you pull will not fit the trans, so you will need to modify that. The
computer won't fit, so you will need that, the exhaust won't fit so you will
need that. (I am advising you to replace the exhaust with a header, so
perhaps that is a bogus problem to have raised.) It will take hours upon
hours to wedge that new 4.0 into your old YJ, and by all accounts the 4.2 is
a better motor. It makes more torque at a lower speed. You can improve it by
getting a 4.0L head for it, that is a good plan. But the MPFI is hands down
without a doubt the better choice. That is, get the 4.0L head and the MPFI,
and you can't do any better. But you can do almost as good, and stlll be
better than a transplanted 4.0, if you just get the MPFI and a header.

After you modify all of the stuff that has to be modified to get the 4.0L
motor into your YJ, you will have spent about as much as you would have
spent putting fuel injection and a header on your 4.2. And, you know where
the 4.2 has been for most of its life, you have a clue where the 4.0 has
been or how hard it has been abused. And, the fuel injection kit will smog
easier because it comes with certification stickers that tell the Smog Nazis
that it has been blessed. You don't seem concerned with Smog Nazis though.




"Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:GcpXd.12786$gJ3.9041@clgrps13...
> Why wouldn't I spend $800 on a pulled 4.0L engine?
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:Wd2dnZDhka3ng7PfRVn-3Q@ez2.net...
> > I'm here to tell you, it't the best pile of dough you will ever spend.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> > news:3anXd.12495$gJ3.3134@clgrps13...
> > > $2000??? This engine has 290km+....The engine is still strong but I
aint
> > > droppin that kinda dough into this thing...
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:AKudnZaqH90Ic7DfRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
> > > > If you live in a Smog State, you should seriously reconsider your
> > actions.
> > > >
> > > > That said, most vacuum is used for smog control. If all vacuum is
> > plugged
> > > > off, you should be OK.
> > > >
> > > > From my own experience, you should spend two grand and install the
> Multi
> > > > Port Fuel Injection kit and a header. The Smog stuff is modified to
> 1994
> > > > levels, but it does remain, and the Smog Nazis will be happy with
your
> > > work.
> > > > You will have much better performance than with any carb set up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:SolXd.12398$gJ3.4912@clgrps13...
> > > > >I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall
> > above
> > > > > the
> > > > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I
> > ditch
> > > > > them too?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

Kyoto (sp??) accord will dictate all, depends on what Martin decides to do.
As for the e-test here (Ontario) yep its a joke and is purely only still
happening cause of the cash it makes the Gov't, The garages don't make squat
on it, they only make money on repairs. That may all change if Dalton
"Bates" brings back photo radar its a bigger cash cow the e-tests.

Snow...

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:422E2DE8.18629DB@sympatico.ca...
> After the fiasco the Ontario system has become, I can't see any other
> province stupid enough to do it, but hey.....
>
> I love the report on the test car they used. It passed at something
> like 60% of the places and needed $500.00 repairs at the rest.
>
> At least my 86 CJ7 won't need another test, but here in Ontario Canada
> it is a utility vehicle and only needs the EGR, PCV, gas cap and air
> filter flaps to pass.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Snow wrote:
>>
>> It will arrive soon, its a great little money grab for the Government
>> coffers, allows even more raises.
>> Keep all the stuff you remove in a box, just incase.
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>> "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
>> news:RopXd.12790$gJ3.1006@clgrps13...
>> > They're (the gov) to busy worrying about homosexuals getting married to
>> > worry about the enviroment.
>> >
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > news:422E2082.ABA1BD3E@cox.net...
>> >> You were knocking on wood, right?
>> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > No emissions testing in alberta
>> >
>> >

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

Kyoto (sp??) accord will dictate all, depends on what Martin decides to do.
As for the e-test here (Ontario) yep its a joke and is purely only still
happening cause of the cash it makes the Gov't, The garages don't make squat
on it, they only make money on repairs. That may all change if Dalton
"Bates" brings back photo radar its a bigger cash cow the e-tests.

Snow...

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:422E2DE8.18629DB@sympatico.ca...
> After the fiasco the Ontario system has become, I can't see any other
> province stupid enough to do it, but hey.....
>
> I love the report on the test car they used. It passed at something
> like 60% of the places and needed $500.00 repairs at the rest.
>
> At least my 86 CJ7 won't need another test, but here in Ontario Canada
> it is a utility vehicle and only needs the EGR, PCV, gas cap and air
> filter flaps to pass.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Snow wrote:
>>
>> It will arrive soon, its a great little money grab for the Government
>> coffers, allows even more raises.
>> Keep all the stuff you remove in a box, just incase.
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>> "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
>> news:RopXd.12790$gJ3.1006@clgrps13...
>> > They're (the gov) to busy worrying about homosexuals getting married to
>> > worry about the enviroment.
>> >
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > news:422E2082.ABA1BD3E@cox.net...
>> >> You were knocking on wood, right?
>> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > No emissions testing in alberta
>> >
>> >

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

Kyoto (sp??) accord will dictate all, depends on what Martin decides to do.
As for the e-test here (Ontario) yep its a joke and is purely only still
happening cause of the cash it makes the Gov't, The garages don't make squat
on it, they only make money on repairs. That may all change if Dalton
"Bates" brings back photo radar its a bigger cash cow the e-tests.

Snow...

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:422E2DE8.18629DB@sympatico.ca...
> After the fiasco the Ontario system has become, I can't see any other
> province stupid enough to do it, but hey.....
>
> I love the report on the test car they used. It passed at something
> like 60% of the places and needed $500.00 repairs at the rest.
>
> At least my 86 CJ7 won't need another test, but here in Ontario Canada
> it is a utility vehicle and only needs the EGR, PCV, gas cap and air
> filter flaps to pass.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Snow wrote:
>>
>> It will arrive soon, its a great little money grab for the Government
>> coffers, allows even more raises.
>> Keep all the stuff you remove in a box, just incase.
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>> "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
>> news:RopXd.12790$gJ3.1006@clgrps13...
>> > They're (the gov) to busy worrying about homosexuals getting married to
>> > worry about the enviroment.
>> >
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > news:422E2082.ABA1BD3E@cox.net...
>> >> You were knocking on wood, right?
>> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > No emissions testing in alberta
>> >
>> >