Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

$2000??? This engine has 290km+....The engine is still strong but I aint
droppin that kinda dough into this thing...


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:AKudnZaqH90Ic7DfRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
> If you live in a Smog State, you should seriously reconsider your actions.
>
> That said, most vacuum is used for smog control. If all vacuum is plugged
> off, you should be OK.
>
> From my own experience, you should spend two grand and install the Multi
> Port Fuel Injection kit and a header. The Smog stuff is modified to 1994
> levels, but it does remain, and the Smog Nazis will be happy with your
work.
> You will have much better performance than with any carb set up.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:SolXd.12398$gJ3.4912@clgrps13...
> >I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> >
> > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall above
> > the
> > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I ditch
> > them too?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
>

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

$2000??? This engine has 290km+....The engine is still strong but I aint
droppin that kinda dough into this thing...


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:AKudnZaqH90Ic7DfRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
> If you live in a Smog State, you should seriously reconsider your actions.
>
> That said, most vacuum is used for smog control. If all vacuum is plugged
> off, you should be OK.
>
> From my own experience, you should spend two grand and install the Multi
> Port Fuel Injection kit and a header. The Smog stuff is modified to 1994
> levels, but it does remain, and the Smog Nazis will be happy with your
work.
> You will have much better performance than with any carb set up.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:SolXd.12398$gJ3.4912@clgrps13...
> >I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> >
> > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall above
> > the
> > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I ditch
> > them too?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
>

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

$2000??? This engine has 290km+....The engine is still strong but I aint
droppin that kinda dough into this thing...


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:AKudnZaqH90Ic7DfRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
> If you live in a Smog State, you should seriously reconsider your actions.
>
> That said, most vacuum is used for smog control. If all vacuum is plugged
> off, you should be OK.
>
> From my own experience, you should spend two grand and install the Multi
> Port Fuel Injection kit and a header. The Smog stuff is modified to 1994
> levels, but it does remain, and the Smog Nazis will be happy with your
work.
> You will have much better performance than with any carb set up.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Pi-eyed Piper" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:SolXd.12398$gJ3.4912@clgrps13...
> >I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> >
> > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall above
> > the
> > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I ditch
> > them too?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
>

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

C6137 - P#, autolite carb from Napa. Same thing no emissions stuff

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD that's
> on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
>
> To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct. Here
> are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat of the
> pants power boost.
>
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
>
> It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for the
> PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> working, all the rest is garbage.
>
> If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> purr....
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>
> I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> >
> > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> >
> > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall above
the
> > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I ditch
> > them too?
> >
> > thanks

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

C6137 - P#, autolite carb from Napa. Same thing no emissions stuff

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD that's
> on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
>
> To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct. Here
> are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat of the
> pants power boost.
>
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
>
> It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for the
> PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> working, all the rest is garbage.
>
> If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> purr....
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>
> I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> >
> > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> >
> > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall above
the
> > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I ditch
> > them too?
> >
> > thanks

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

C6137 - P#, autolite carb from Napa. Same thing no emissions stuff

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD that's
> on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
>
> To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct. Here
> are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat of the
> pants power boost.
>
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
>
> It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for the
> PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> working, all the rest is garbage.
>
> If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> purr....
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>
> I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> >
> > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> >
> > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall above
the
> > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I ditch
> > them too?
> >
> > thanks

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

Your mileage may vary on the EGR. It is easy enough to try it with and
without but the smog cops want an EGR for sure and mine had to pass up
to this year. The engine cam is also designed for an EGR.

I found with my setup running ported vacuum the EGR caused a bad delay
in the gas pedal response or bog. I have some delay now because I just
had to have it's last smog so I am set manifold vacuum for the
distributor and the timing dropped a couple degrees with the EGR in
place. I am going away this weekend and am going to switch the timing
back to ported and kill the EGR first. It makes a major difference in
throttle punch. :-)

I also use two new wires when putting the computer to sleep rather than
mess inside the wiring harness. It's easier.

Is your current carb dead, a kit is only $20.00?

Mike

Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
>
> 78 is 2 barrel I think. I still need the EGR?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> > They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD that's
> > on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
> >
> > To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct. Here
> > are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat of the
> > pants power boost.
> >
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for the
> > PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> > working, all the rest is garbage.
> >
> > If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> > purr....
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >
> > I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> > newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > >
> > > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > >
> > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall above
> the
> > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I ditch
> > > them too?
> > >
> > > thanks

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

Your mileage may vary on the EGR. It is easy enough to try it with and
without but the smog cops want an EGR for sure and mine had to pass up
to this year. The engine cam is also designed for an EGR.

I found with my setup running ported vacuum the EGR caused a bad delay
in the gas pedal response or bog. I have some delay now because I just
had to have it's last smog so I am set manifold vacuum for the
distributor and the timing dropped a couple degrees with the EGR in
place. I am going away this weekend and am going to switch the timing
back to ported and kill the EGR first. It makes a major difference in
throttle punch. :-)

I also use two new wires when putting the computer to sleep rather than
mess inside the wiring harness. It's easier.

Is your current carb dead, a kit is only $20.00?

Mike

Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
>
> 78 is 2 barrel I think. I still need the EGR?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> > They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD that's
> > on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
> >
> > To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct. Here
> > are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat of the
> > pants power boost.
> >
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for the
> > PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> > working, all the rest is garbage.
> >
> > If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> > purr....
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >
> > I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> > newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > >
> > > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > >
> > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall above
> the
> > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I ditch
> > > them too?
> > >
> > > thanks

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

Your mileage may vary on the EGR. It is easy enough to try it with and
without but the smog cops want an EGR for sure and mine had to pass up
to this year. The engine cam is also designed for an EGR.

I found with my setup running ported vacuum the EGR caused a bad delay
in the gas pedal response or bog. I have some delay now because I just
had to have it's last smog so I am set manifold vacuum for the
distributor and the timing dropped a couple degrees with the EGR in
place. I am going away this weekend and am going to switch the timing
back to ported and kill the EGR first. It makes a major difference in
throttle punch. :-)

I also use two new wires when putting the computer to sleep rather than
mess inside the wiring harness. It's easier.

Is your current carb dead, a kit is only $20.00?

Mike

Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
>
> 78 is 2 barrel I think. I still need the EGR?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> > They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD that's
> > on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
> >
> > To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct. Here
> > are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat of the
> > pants power boost.
> >
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for the
> > PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> > working, all the rest is garbage.
> >
> > If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> > purr....
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >
> > I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> > newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > >
> > > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > >
> > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall above
> the
> > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I ditch
> > > them too?
> > >
> > > thanks

Re: emissions crap on an 89YJ
 

Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> C6137 - P#, autolite carb from Napa. Same thing no emissions stuff
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> > They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD
that's
> > on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
> >
> > To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct.
Here
> > are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat
of the
> > pants power boost.
> >
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for
the
> > PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> > working, all the rest is garbage.
> >
> > If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> > purr....
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >
> > I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> > newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > >
> > > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > >
> > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall
above
> the
> > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can
I ditch
> > > them too?
> > >
> > > thanks


I've got to warn about this too. I did an engine swap on a CJ while I
was in CO. When I moved to CA and tried to get it smoged I ended up
spending a couple of thousand dollars buying all the obsolete smog
parts and getting it to pass. The referee kept failing me and aksing
if I had taken it to a certified smog technition. I finally got the
hint and took it in. Once I paid the smog tech about $1k and showed to
receipt to the ref, he passed me. What a racket!!

Anyway, think hard about this. If you do make the swap, keep ALL the
old parts in case you have to put them back on.

My $.02