83 CJ

Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> C6137 - P#, autolite carb from Napa. Same thing no emissions stuff
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> > They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD
that's
> > on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
> >
> > To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct.
Here
> > are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat
of the
> > pants power boost.
> >
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for
the
> > PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> > working, all the rest is garbage.
> >
> > If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> > purr....
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >
> > I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> > newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > >
> > > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > >
> > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall
above
> the
> > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can
I ditch
> > > them too?
> > >
> > > thanks


I've got to warn about this too. I did an engine swap on a CJ while I
was in CO. When I moved to CA and tried to get it smoged I ended up
spending a couple of thousand dollars buying all the obsolete smog
parts and getting it to pass. The referee kept failing me and aksing
if I had taken it to a certified smog technition. I finally got the
hint and took it in. Once I paid the smog tech about $1k and showed to
receipt to the ref, he passed me. What a racket!!

Anyway, think hard about this. If you do make the swap, keep ALL the
old parts in case you have to put them back on.

My $.02

83 CJ

Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> C6137 - P#, autolite carb from Napa. Same thing no emissions stuff
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> > They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD
that's
> > on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
> >
> > To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct.
Here
> > are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat
of the
> > pants power boost.
> >
> > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> >
> > It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for
the
> > PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> > working, all the rest is garbage.
> >
> > If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> > purr....
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >
> > I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> > newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > >
> > > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > >
> > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall
above
> the
> > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can
I ditch
> > > them too?
> > >
> > > thanks


I've got to warn about this too. I did an engine swap on a CJ while I
was in CO. When I moved to CA and tried to get it smoged I ended up
spending a couple of thousand dollars buying all the obsolete smog
parts and getting it to pass. The referee kept failing me and aksing
if I had taken it to a certified smog technition. I finally got the
hint and took it in. Once I paid the smog tech about $1k and showed to
receipt to the ref, he passed me. What a racket!!

Anyway, think hard about this. If you do make the swap, keep ALL the
old parts in case you have to put them back on.

My $.02

Pi-eyed Piper

My old carb is a rattlebox. I figure I'll keep the old one and rebuild it
for the experience.

So im not going to kill or blow anything up taking the EGR off...thats good.
In Alberta we're all rednecks and dont have emissions testing, yet.

thanks Mike

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:422E05AC.94A1EA9D@sympatico.ca...
> Your mileage may vary on the EGR. It is easy enough to try it with and
> without but the smog cops want an EGR for sure and mine had to pass up
> to this year. The engine cam is also designed for an EGR.
>
> I found with my setup running ported vacuum the EGR caused a bad delay
> in the gas pedal response or bog. I have some delay now because I just
> had to have it's last smog so I am set manifold vacuum for the
> distributor and the timing dropped a couple degrees with the EGR in
> place. I am going away this weekend and am going to switch the timing
> back to ported and kill the EGR first. It makes a major difference in
> throttle punch. :-)
>
> I also use two new wires when putting the computer to sleep rather than
> mess inside the wiring harness. It's easier.
>
> Is your current carb dead, a kit is only $20.00?
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> >
> > 78 is 2 barrel I think. I still need the EGR?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> > > They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD
that's
> > > on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
> > >
> > > To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct.
Here
> > > are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat of
the
> > > pants power boost.
> > >
> > > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> > >
> > > It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for the
> > > PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> > > working, all the rest is garbage.
> > >
> > > If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> > > purr....
> > >
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > >
> > > I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> > > newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > > >
> > > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall
above
> > the
> > > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I
ditch
> > > > them too?
> > > >
> > > > thanks

Pi-eyed Piper

My old carb is a rattlebox. I figure I'll keep the old one and rebuild it
for the experience.

So im not going to kill or blow anything up taking the EGR off...thats good.
In Alberta we're all rednecks and dont have emissions testing, yet.

thanks Mike

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:422E05AC.94A1EA9D@sympatico.ca...
> Your mileage may vary on the EGR. It is easy enough to try it with and
> without but the smog cops want an EGR for sure and mine had to pass up
> to this year. The engine cam is also designed for an EGR.
>
> I found with my setup running ported vacuum the EGR caused a bad delay
> in the gas pedal response or bog. I have some delay now because I just
> had to have it's last smog so I am set manifold vacuum for the
> distributor and the timing dropped a couple degrees with the EGR in
> place. I am going away this weekend and am going to switch the timing
> back to ported and kill the EGR first. It makes a major difference in
> throttle punch. :-)
>
> I also use two new wires when putting the computer to sleep rather than
> mess inside the wiring harness. It's easier.
>
> Is your current carb dead, a kit is only $20.00?
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> >
> > 78 is 2 barrel I think. I still need the EGR?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> > > They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD
that's
> > > on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
> > >
> > > To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct.
Here
> > > are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat of
the
> > > pants power boost.
> > >
> > > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> > >
> > > It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for the
> > > PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> > > working, all the rest is garbage.
> > >
> > > If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> > > purr....
> > >
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > >
> > > I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> > > newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > > >
> > > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall
above
> > the
> > > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I
ditch
> > > > them too?
> > > >
> > > > thanks

Pi-eyed Piper

My old carb is a rattlebox. I figure I'll keep the old one and rebuild it
for the experience.

So im not going to kill or blow anything up taking the EGR off...thats good.
In Alberta we're all rednecks and dont have emissions testing, yet.

thanks Mike

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:422E05AC.94A1EA9D@sympatico.ca...
> Your mileage may vary on the EGR. It is easy enough to try it with and
> without but the smog cops want an EGR for sure and mine had to pass up
> to this year. The engine cam is also designed for an EGR.
>
> I found with my setup running ported vacuum the EGR caused a bad delay
> in the gas pedal response or bog. I have some delay now because I just
> had to have it's last smog so I am set manifold vacuum for the
> distributor and the timing dropped a couple degrees with the EGR in
> place. I am going away this weekend and am going to switch the timing
> back to ported and kill the EGR first. It makes a major difference in
> throttle punch. :-)
>
> I also use two new wires when putting the computer to sleep rather than
> mess inside the wiring harness. It's easier.
>
> Is your current carb dead, a kit is only $20.00?
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> >
> > 78 is 2 barrel I think. I still need the EGR?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> > > They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD
that's
> > > on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
> > >
> > > To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct.
Here
> > > are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat of
the
> > > pants power boost.
> > >
> > > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> > >
> > > It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for the
> > > PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> > > working, all the rest is garbage.
> > >
> > > If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> > > purr....
> > >
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > >
> > > I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> > > newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > > >
> > > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall
above
> > the
> > > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I
ditch
> > > > them too?
> > > >
> > > > thanks

Pi-eyed Piper

No emissions testing in alberta

"83 CJ" <erik.leuschner@us.army.mil> wrote in message
news:1110317839.422240.111060@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > C6137 - P#, autolite carb from Napa. Same thing no emissions stuff
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> > > They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD
> that's
> > > on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
> > >
> > > To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct.
> Here
> > > are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat
> of the
> > > pants power boost.
> > >
> > > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> > >
> > > It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for
> the
> > > PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> > > working, all the rest is garbage.
> > >
> > > If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> > > purr....
> > >
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > >
> > > I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> > > newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > > >
> > > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall
> above
> > the
> > > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can
> I ditch
> > > > them too?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
>
>
> I've got to warn about this too. I did an engine swap on a CJ while I
> was in CO. When I moved to CA and tried to get it smoged I ended up
> spending a couple of thousand dollars buying all the obsolete smog
> parts and getting it to pass. The referee kept failing me and aksing
> if I had taken it to a certified smog technition. I finally got the
> hint and took it in. Once I paid the smog tech about $1k and showed to
> receipt to the ref, he passed me. What a racket!!
>
> Anyway, think hard about this. If you do make the swap, keep ALL the
> old parts in case you have to put them back on.
>
> My $.02
>

Pi-eyed Piper

No emissions testing in alberta

"83 CJ" <erik.leuschner@us.army.mil> wrote in message
news:1110317839.422240.111060@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > C6137 - P#, autolite carb from Napa. Same thing no emissions stuff
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> > > They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD
> that's
> > > on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
> > >
> > > To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct.
> Here
> > > are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat
> of the
> > > pants power boost.
> > >
> > > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> > >
> > > It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for
> the
> > > PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> > > working, all the rest is garbage.
> > >
> > > If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> > > purr....
> > >
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > >
> > > I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> > > newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > > >
> > > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall
> above
> > the
> > > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can
> I ditch
> > > > them too?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
>
>
> I've got to warn about this too. I did an engine swap on a CJ while I
> was in CO. When I moved to CA and tried to get it smoged I ended up
> spending a couple of thousand dollars buying all the obsolete smog
> parts and getting it to pass. The referee kept failing me and aksing
> if I had taken it to a certified smog technition. I finally got the
> hint and took it in. Once I paid the smog tech about $1k and showed to
> receipt to the ref, he passed me. What a racket!!
>
> Anyway, think hard about this. If you do make the swap, keep ALL the
> old parts in case you have to put them back on.
>
> My $.02
>

Pi-eyed Piper

No emissions testing in alberta

"83 CJ" <erik.leuschner@us.army.mil> wrote in message
news:1110317839.422240.111060@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > C6137 - P#, autolite carb from Napa. Same thing no emissions stuff
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:422DECE5.5F0DEA55@sympatico.ca...
> > > They are all garbage and you can keep the stock Weber-Carter BBD
> that's
> > > on there too if you want and still toss the emissions computer.
> > >
> > > To physically toss the computer, you have to wire the tach direct.
> Here
> > > are the directions for killing the computer for a sweet 25%+ seat
> of the
> > > pants power boost.
> > >
> > > http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
> > >
> > > It can still pass emissions tuned manually. I kept the vacuum for
> the
> > > PCV and canister (important), EGR, distributor and air filter flaps
> > > working, all the rest is garbage.
> > >
> > > If your stock carb is giving you fits, check this link to make it
> > > purr....
> > >
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > >
> > > I don't see how you can use a 70's carb on it, they were 1 BBL, the
> > > newer ones are 2 BBL so you would have to change the intake too.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
> > > >
> > > > I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> > > > crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall
> above
> > the
> > > > valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can
> I ditch
> > > > them too?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
>
>
> I've got to warn about this too. I did an engine swap on a CJ while I
> was in CO. When I moved to CA and tried to get it smoged I ended up
> spending a couple of thousand dollars buying all the obsolete smog
> parts and getting it to pass. The referee kept failing me and aksing
> if I had taken it to a certified smog technition. I finally got the
> hint and took it in. Once I paid the smog tech about $1k and showed to
> receipt to the ref, he passed me. What a racket!!
>
> Anyway, think hard about this. If you do make the swap, keep ALL the
> old parts in case you have to put them back on.
>
> My $.02
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
>
> I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
>
> I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall above the
> valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I ditch
> them too?
>
> thanks

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Pi-eyed Piper wrote:
>
> I have an 89YJ, 4.2L
>
> I'm installing a carb from a 70's CJ and ditching the emissions
> crap...question is, there are 2 vaccuum solenoids on the firewall above the
> valve cover and 3 on the valve cover, what are these for and can I ditch
> them too?
>
> thanks