Rod Gramlich

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4072F05E.F7EA6E7@sympatico.ca...
> Canadian tire sells the air filters for the bottom for about $2.00.
>
> I had to use a hammer and chisel

Gotcha !!!!! I believe I have those tools :>)

Kevin Sperle

Depends if it's just a plugged filter or the cannister is actually shot. If
it's just the filter, $2.00 like mike said.

There are many people that run without it, but it is the gas tank vent and
some of those things need to be taken into account if you run without it.
I'm sure if you do a Google group search someone will have explained how to
run without it.

For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=
3


"Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
news:c4uoam$ies$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> > The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00
or
> > so. It 'was' $80.00.
>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN.
scam
> to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any
way
> to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???
>
> tia,
> rod
>
>
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin Sperle wrote:
> > >
> > > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > > dealership
> > >
> > > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions
canister
> for 82
> > > > CJ ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Kevin Sperle

Depends if it's just a plugged filter or the cannister is actually shot. If
it's just the filter, $2.00 like mike said.

There are many people that run without it, but it is the gas tank vent and
some of those things need to be taken into account if you run without it.
I'm sure if you do a Google group search someone will have explained how to
run without it.

For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=
3


"Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
news:c4uoam$ies$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> > The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00
or
> > so. It 'was' $80.00.
>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN.
scam
> to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any
way
> to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???
>
> tia,
> rod
>
>
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin Sperle wrote:
> > >
> > > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > > dealership
> > >
> > > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions
canister
> for 82
> > > > CJ ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Kevin Sperle

Depends if it's just a plugged filter or the cannister is actually shot. If
it's just the filter, $2.00 like mike said.

There are many people that run without it, but it is the gas tank vent and
some of those things need to be taken into account if you run without it.
I'm sure if you do a Google group search someone will have explained how to
run without it.

For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=
3


"Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
news:c4uoam$ies$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> > The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00
or
> > so. It 'was' $80.00.
>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN.
scam
> to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any
way
> to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???
>
> tia,
> rod
>
>
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin Sperle wrote:
> > >
> > > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > > dealership
> > >
> > > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions
canister
> for 82
> > > > CJ ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Kevin Sperle

Depends if it's just a plugged filter or the cannister is actually shot. If
it's just the filter, $2.00 like mike said.

There are many people that run without it, but it is the gas tank vent and
some of those things need to be taken into account if you run without it.
I'm sure if you do a Google group search someone will have explained how to
run without it.

For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=
3


"Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
news:c4uoam$ies$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> > The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00
or
> > so. It 'was' $80.00.
>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN.
scam
> to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any
way
> to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???
>
> tia,
> rod
>
>
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin Sperle wrote:
> > >
> > > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > > dealership
> > >
> > > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions
canister
> for 82
> > > > CJ ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Rod Gramlich

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:lYDcc.76$SP4.46995@news.uswest.net...
>
> For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=

As per mike's post:

If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the air
filter through the valve cover intake line.

BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old cannister had finally packed it in, causing PCV circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this valve.

NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of original carb :>)

Rod Gramlich

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:lYDcc.76$SP4.46995@news.uswest.net...
>
> For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=

As per mike's post:

If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the air
filter through the valve cover intake line.

BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old cannister had finally packed it in, causing PCV circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this valve.

NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of original carb :>)

Rod Gramlich

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:lYDcc.76$SP4.46995@news.uswest.net...
>
> For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=

As per mike's post:

If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the air
filter through the valve cover intake line.

BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old cannister had finally packed it in, causing PCV circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this valve.

NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of original carb :>)

Rod Gramlich

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:lYDcc.76$SP4.46995@news.uswest.net...
>
> For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=

As per mike's post:

If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the air
filter through the valve cover intake line.

BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old cannister had finally packed it in, causing PCV circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this valve.

NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of original carb :>)

Mike Romain

As per mike's post:

If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the
air
filter through the valve cover intake line.


BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old
canister had finally packed it in, causing PCV
circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this
valve.

NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of
original carb :>)


That is a bad purge valve. If you trace the PCV line to the back of the
carb, make sure the elbow hasn't collapsed. Back of the carb there is a
solenoid or T fitting. The solenoid can be tossed, it's a recall thing,
you just use a T fitting. Off this a line goes to the top of the
canister.

At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes the
canister purge is messed up.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's