E-10 Gasoline The New Standard April 1st
03-26-2006, 09:10 PM
#61
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Re: E-10 Gasoline The New Standard April 1st
As I had heard April 1st is official, but like anything else the Feds do it
is on the sly.
Coasty
"Hippie" <pmunsel@txcyber.com> wrote in message
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> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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>> Yeah, I think it might be an april fools thing...
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:5WAVf.4576$FD4.1997@dukeread07...
>>> Coasty did pass the time by typing:
>>>> Well, I must have been under a rock or in lala land to miss this. I
>>>> was
>>>> listening to Goss' Garage today and April 1st 2006 all gasoline will be
>>>> E-10
>>>> (10% ethanol) which replaces the current MTBE additive. Pat discussed
>>>> the
>>>> new stuff at length and basically stated it will be fine even for older
>>>> autos. He said that in older autos the ethanol is a super cleaner and
>>>> will
>>>> break lose all kinds of stuff in the fuel system. He said if you
>>>> notice
>>>> your auto running really crapy just change the fuel filter.
>>>>
>>>> Coasty
>>>
>>> Nice date they chose..... :)
>>>
>>> --
>>> DougW
>
> I've been hearing some ramblings for over a month here. The only date I
> had heard previously was sometime in April. The folks just S. of me in
> Houston have been gearing up for a while I was told. I was also told it
> was one of those "under the cover of darkness" issues so as not to get too
> much attention and resistance before it was in the marketplace. As usual,
> it could all change with the wind, and it's blowing hard today.
> Hippie...
>
is on the sly.
Coasty
"Hippie" <pmunsel@txcyber.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:zoWdnYL7NeWFQbvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Yeah, I think it might be an april fools thing...
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:5WAVf.4576$FD4.1997@dukeread07...
>>> Coasty did pass the time by typing:
>>>> Well, I must have been under a rock or in lala land to miss this. I
>>>> was
>>>> listening to Goss' Garage today and April 1st 2006 all gasoline will be
>>>> E-10
>>>> (10% ethanol) which replaces the current MTBE additive. Pat discussed
>>>> the
>>>> new stuff at length and basically stated it will be fine even for older
>>>> autos. He said that in older autos the ethanol is a super cleaner and
>>>> will
>>>> break lose all kinds of stuff in the fuel system. He said if you
>>>> notice
>>>> your auto running really crapy just change the fuel filter.
>>>>
>>>> Coasty
>>>
>>> Nice date they chose..... :)
>>>
>>> --
>>> DougW
>
> I've been hearing some ramblings for over a month here. The only date I
> had heard previously was sometime in April. The folks just S. of me in
> Houston have been gearing up for a while I was told. I was also told it
> was one of those "under the cover of darkness" issues so as not to get too
> much attention and resistance before it was in the marketplace. As usual,
> it could all change with the wind, and it's blowing hard today.
> Hippie...
>
03-26-2006, 09:12 PM
#62
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Re: E-10 Gasoline The New Standard April 1st
Sorry no joke all grades of gas will be E-10 the MTBE additive is gonzo.
Coasty
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> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
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>> Well, I must have been under a rock or in lala land to miss this. I was
>> listening to Goss' Garage today and April 1st 2006 all gasoline will be
> E-10
>> (10% ethanol) which replaces the current MTBE additive.
>
> Hopefully it is a joke, or at least the 93 octane stuff won't contain
> it...
> I use the 93 octane stuff in my aircraft and I can't use any fuel with
> alcohol in it...
>
>
Coasty
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> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
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>> Well, I must have been under a rock or in lala land to miss this. I was
>> listening to Goss' Garage today and April 1st 2006 all gasoline will be
> E-10
>> (10% ethanol) which replaces the current MTBE additive.
>
> Hopefully it is a joke, or at least the 93 octane stuff won't contain
> it...
> I use the 93 octane stuff in my aircraft and I can't use any fuel with
> alcohol in it...
>
>
03-26-2006, 09:12 PM
#63
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Re: E-10 Gasoline The New Standard April 1st
Sorry no joke all grades of gas will be E-10 the MTBE additive is gonzo.
Coasty
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> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
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>> Well, I must have been under a rock or in lala land to miss this. I was
>> listening to Goss' Garage today and April 1st 2006 all gasoline will be
> E-10
>> (10% ethanol) which replaces the current MTBE additive.
>
> Hopefully it is a joke, or at least the 93 octane stuff won't contain
> it...
> I use the 93 octane stuff in my aircraft and I can't use any fuel with
> alcohol in it...
>
>
Coasty
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:x-idnUgjVPumSrvZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Well, I must have been under a rock or in lala land to miss this. I was
>> listening to Goss' Garage today and April 1st 2006 all gasoline will be
> E-10
>> (10% ethanol) which replaces the current MTBE additive.
>
> Hopefully it is a joke, or at least the 93 octane stuff won't contain
> it...
> I use the 93 octane stuff in my aircraft and I can't use any fuel with
> alcohol in it...
>
>
03-26-2006, 09:12 PM
#64
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Re: E-10 Gasoline The New Standard April 1st
Sorry no joke all grades of gas will be E-10 the MTBE additive is gonzo.
Coasty
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:x-idnUgjVPumSrvZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Well, I must have been under a rock or in lala land to miss this. I was
>> listening to Goss' Garage today and April 1st 2006 all gasoline will be
> E-10
>> (10% ethanol) which replaces the current MTBE additive.
>
> Hopefully it is a joke, or at least the 93 octane stuff won't contain
> it...
> I use the 93 octane stuff in my aircraft and I can't use any fuel with
> alcohol in it...
>
>
Coasty
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:x-idnUgjVPumSrvZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Well, I must have been under a rock or in lala land to miss this. I was
>> listening to Goss' Garage today and April 1st 2006 all gasoline will be
> E-10
>> (10% ethanol) which replaces the current MTBE additive.
>
> Hopefully it is a joke, or at least the 93 octane stuff won't contain
> it...
> I use the 93 octane stuff in my aircraft and I can't use any fuel with
> alcohol in it...
>
>
03-26-2006, 09:14 PM
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Re: E-10 Gasoline The New Standard April 1st
Kate, check the pump next time you fill up you should see an E-10 on it or
ask them.
Coasty
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4426E698.309D8ADF@sympatico.ca...
> : No joke unfortunately. They are talking about mandating alcohol in fuel
> : in Canada too or at least in Ontario in the next couple years.
> :
> : It is total -------- about the older engines. The crap eats gas lines,
> : the carb float needles go bad and I lose over 25% in mileage and have
> : no power over 60 mph when I run alcohol mix. Even my owners manual
> : states 'not' to use the junk.
> :
> : I mean I go from over 350 miles per tank of gas down to 250 miles at
> : best with alcohol mix.
> :
> : Great stuff, it is more expensive and we use Way more of it when mixed.
> :
> :
>
> WOW - that's really bad mike.
> I just wonder......
>
> My Liberty has gotten worse and worse mileage over the last month. Maybe
> the
> station switched while I wasn't looking.
>
>
>
ask them.
Coasty
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4426E698.309D8ADF@sympatico.ca...
> : No joke unfortunately. They are talking about mandating alcohol in fuel
> : in Canada too or at least in Ontario in the next couple years.
> :
> : It is total -------- about the older engines. The crap eats gas lines,
> : the carb float needles go bad and I lose over 25% in mileage and have
> : no power over 60 mph when I run alcohol mix. Even my owners manual
> : states 'not' to use the junk.
> :
> : I mean I go from over 350 miles per tank of gas down to 250 miles at
> : best with alcohol mix.
> :
> : Great stuff, it is more expensive and we use Way more of it when mixed.
> :
> :
>
> WOW - that's really bad mike.
> I just wonder......
>
> My Liberty has gotten worse and worse mileage over the last month. Maybe
> the
> station switched while I wasn't looking.
>
>
>
03-26-2006, 09:14 PM
#66
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Re: E-10 Gasoline The New Standard April 1st
Kate, check the pump next time you fill up you should see an E-10 on it or
ask them.
Coasty
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
news:uRGVf.2477$yn4.2363@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4426E698.309D8ADF@sympatico.ca...
> : No joke unfortunately. They are talking about mandating alcohol in fuel
> : in Canada too or at least in Ontario in the next couple years.
> :
> : It is total -------- about the older engines. The crap eats gas lines,
> : the carb float needles go bad and I lose over 25% in mileage and have
> : no power over 60 mph when I run alcohol mix. Even my owners manual
> : states 'not' to use the junk.
> :
> : I mean I go from over 350 miles per tank of gas down to 250 miles at
> : best with alcohol mix.
> :
> : Great stuff, it is more expensive and we use Way more of it when mixed.
> :
> :
>
> WOW - that's really bad mike.
> I just wonder......
>
> My Liberty has gotten worse and worse mileage over the last month. Maybe
> the
> station switched while I wasn't looking.
>
>
>
ask them.
Coasty
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
news:uRGVf.2477$yn4.2363@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4426E698.309D8ADF@sympatico.ca...
> : No joke unfortunately. They are talking about mandating alcohol in fuel
> : in Canada too or at least in Ontario in the next couple years.
> :
> : It is total -------- about the older engines. The crap eats gas lines,
> : the carb float needles go bad and I lose over 25% in mileage and have
> : no power over 60 mph when I run alcohol mix. Even my owners manual
> : states 'not' to use the junk.
> :
> : I mean I go from over 350 miles per tank of gas down to 250 miles at
> : best with alcohol mix.
> :
> : Great stuff, it is more expensive and we use Way more of it when mixed.
> :
> :
>
> WOW - that's really bad mike.
> I just wonder......
>
> My Liberty has gotten worse and worse mileage over the last month. Maybe
> the
> station switched while I wasn't looking.
>
>
>
03-26-2006, 09:14 PM
#67
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Re: E-10 Gasoline The New Standard April 1st
Kate, check the pump next time you fill up you should see an E-10 on it or
ask them.
Coasty
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
news:uRGVf.2477$yn4.2363@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4426E698.309D8ADF@sympatico.ca...
> : No joke unfortunately. They are talking about mandating alcohol in fuel
> : in Canada too or at least in Ontario in the next couple years.
> :
> : It is total -------- about the older engines. The crap eats gas lines,
> : the carb float needles go bad and I lose over 25% in mileage and have
> : no power over 60 mph when I run alcohol mix. Even my owners manual
> : states 'not' to use the junk.
> :
> : I mean I go from over 350 miles per tank of gas down to 250 miles at
> : best with alcohol mix.
> :
> : Great stuff, it is more expensive and we use Way more of it when mixed.
> :
> :
>
> WOW - that's really bad mike.
> I just wonder......
>
> My Liberty has gotten worse and worse mileage over the last month. Maybe
> the
> station switched while I wasn't looking.
>
>
>
ask them.
Coasty
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
news:uRGVf.2477$yn4.2363@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4426E698.309D8ADF@sympatico.ca...
> : No joke unfortunately. They are talking about mandating alcohol in fuel
> : in Canada too or at least in Ontario in the next couple years.
> :
> : It is total -------- about the older engines. The crap eats gas lines,
> : the carb float needles go bad and I lose over 25% in mileage and have
> : no power over 60 mph when I run alcohol mix. Even my owners manual
> : states 'not' to use the junk.
> :
> : I mean I go from over 350 miles per tank of gas down to 250 miles at
> : best with alcohol mix.
> :
> : Great stuff, it is more expensive and we use Way more of it when mixed.
> :
> :
>
> WOW - that's really bad mike.
> I just wonder......
>
> My Liberty has gotten worse and worse mileage over the last month. Maybe
> the
> station switched while I wasn't looking.
>
>
>
03-26-2006, 09:18 PM
#68
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Re: E-10 Gasoline The New Standard April 1st
The mandates are wrong Maryland where I live will be April 1st along with
many other states since the Feds no longer allow the use of MTBEs in fuel.
Coasty
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6NCVf.4588$FD4.977@dukeread07...
>I still say it's an april fools gag.
> (although not out of the range of government stupidity)
>
> Found some state madates
> http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...ethanol_m.html
>
> Going E-10 increases NOx
> http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/p...-e85.6392.html
>
> Interesting read.
> http://www.rppi.org/315polsum.pdf
>
> MTBE is bad stuff and getting rid of it is a good thing. But I'm not
> convinced alcohol and increased NOx is the answer.
>
> --
> DougW
>
many other states since the Feds no longer allow the use of MTBEs in fuel.
Coasty
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6NCVf.4588$FD4.977@dukeread07...
>I still say it's an april fools gag.
> (although not out of the range of government stupidity)
>
> Found some state madates
> http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...ethanol_m.html
>
> Going E-10 increases NOx
> http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/p...-e85.6392.html
>
> Interesting read.
> http://www.rppi.org/315polsum.pdf
>
> MTBE is bad stuff and getting rid of it is a good thing. But I'm not
> convinced alcohol and increased NOx is the answer.
>
> --
> DougW
>
03-26-2006, 09:18 PM
#69
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Re: E-10 Gasoline The New Standard April 1st
The mandates are wrong Maryland where I live will be April 1st along with
many other states since the Feds no longer allow the use of MTBEs in fuel.
Coasty
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6NCVf.4588$FD4.977@dukeread07...
>I still say it's an april fools gag.
> (although not out of the range of government stupidity)
>
> Found some state madates
> http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...ethanol_m.html
>
> Going E-10 increases NOx
> http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/p...-e85.6392.html
>
> Interesting read.
> http://www.rppi.org/315polsum.pdf
>
> MTBE is bad stuff and getting rid of it is a good thing. But I'm not
> convinced alcohol and increased NOx is the answer.
>
> --
> DougW
>
many other states since the Feds no longer allow the use of MTBEs in fuel.
Coasty
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6NCVf.4588$FD4.977@dukeread07...
>I still say it's an april fools gag.
> (although not out of the range of government stupidity)
>
> Found some state madates
> http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...ethanol_m.html
>
> Going E-10 increases NOx
> http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/p...-e85.6392.html
>
> Interesting read.
> http://www.rppi.org/315polsum.pdf
>
> MTBE is bad stuff and getting rid of it is a good thing. But I'm not
> convinced alcohol and increased NOx is the answer.
>
> --
> DougW
>
03-26-2006, 09:18 PM
#70
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Posts: n/a
Re: E-10 Gasoline The New Standard April 1st
The mandates are wrong Maryland where I live will be April 1st along with
many other states since the Feds no longer allow the use of MTBEs in fuel.
Coasty
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6NCVf.4588$FD4.977@dukeread07...
>I still say it's an april fools gag.
> (although not out of the range of government stupidity)
>
> Found some state madates
> http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...ethanol_m.html
>
> Going E-10 increases NOx
> http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/p...-e85.6392.html
>
> Interesting read.
> http://www.rppi.org/315polsum.pdf
>
> MTBE is bad stuff and getting rid of it is a good thing. But I'm not
> convinced alcohol and increased NOx is the answer.
>
> --
> DougW
>
many other states since the Feds no longer allow the use of MTBEs in fuel.
Coasty
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6NCVf.4588$FD4.977@dukeread07...
>I still say it's an april fools gag.
> (although not out of the range of government stupidity)
>
> Found some state madates
> http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...ethanol_m.html
>
> Going E-10 increases NOx
> http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/p...-e85.6392.html
>
> Interesting read.
> http://www.rppi.org/315polsum.pdf
>
> MTBE is bad stuff and getting rid of it is a good thing. But I'm not
> convinced alcohol and increased NOx is the answer.
>
> --
> DougW
>