Jerry Bransford

After having run my Warn HS9500i MANY times over the past five years with a
single Optima Yellow Top battery in my '97 TJ, with a number of hard
repetitive pulls and three replacement wire ropes due to all the use my
winch has had, I no longer feel a second battery is needed. Simple
common-sense battery management is all you really need. :)

Jerry
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"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff

jbjeep

Nope, there is one more option. www.wranglernw.com

However, I dont have air, but what I did was use the Kilby tray and get the isolater
setup from Wrangler NW, and picked up the red and yellow optimas as blems from a
local parts store.

Isolator was about $90
Kilby tray was about $100
Blem batteries were around $70 and $75 I think.
Plus a few small parts had to be purchased - under $20 total.


On Fri, 21 May 2004 00:39:01 GMT, "Jim Bratton" <jbratton1@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>>If you have A/C in a newer Wrangler you have 2 practical choices. 1 is from
>>Kilby Enterprises and the other is from another Company that sells product
>>through Quadratec (I forget name). Kilby uses Optima and the other uses
>>Hawker Odessey. The advantage of the Hawker is the batteries are smaller..
>>that way you do not have to install the "twisted A/C tube" provided with the
>>Kilby solution. The A/C tube requires re-charging A/C system.
>>
>>Both are pricey due to battery cost. Personally I am weary of Optima
>>because a yellow-top failed on me and nobody (including Optima) would lift a
>>finger to offer warranty... I.e no-warranty except for false statements from
>>catalog and manufacturer of product (each points to each other for
>>warranty---check Optima and popular catalogs warranty statement). Dont get
>>cheated... buy from dealer who will deliver warranty themselves.... ask for
>>warranty in writing from dealer...
>>-Jim
>>
>>">
>>> handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message
>>news:<20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com>...
>>> > My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to
>>have
>>> > onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will
>>set me
>>> > back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other
>>tray in
>>> > the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
>>than the
>>> > "main" one...
>>> >
>>> > -jeff
>>

jbjeep

Nope, there is one more option. www.wranglernw.com

However, I dont have air, but what I did was use the Kilby tray and get the isolater
setup from Wrangler NW, and picked up the red and yellow optimas as blems from a
local parts store.

Isolator was about $90
Kilby tray was about $100
Blem batteries were around $70 and $75 I think.
Plus a few small parts had to be purchased - under $20 total.


On Fri, 21 May 2004 00:39:01 GMT, "Jim Bratton" <jbratton1@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>>If you have A/C in a newer Wrangler you have 2 practical choices. 1 is from
>>Kilby Enterprises and the other is from another Company that sells product
>>through Quadratec (I forget name). Kilby uses Optima and the other uses
>>Hawker Odessey. The advantage of the Hawker is the batteries are smaller..
>>that way you do not have to install the "twisted A/C tube" provided with the
>>Kilby solution. The A/C tube requires re-charging A/C system.
>>
>>Both are pricey due to battery cost. Personally I am weary of Optima
>>because a yellow-top failed on me and nobody (including Optima) would lift a
>>finger to offer warranty... I.e no-warranty except for false statements from
>>catalog and manufacturer of product (each points to each other for
>>warranty---check Optima and popular catalogs warranty statement). Dont get
>>cheated... buy from dealer who will deliver warranty themselves.... ask for
>>warranty in writing from dealer...
>>-Jim
>>
>>">
>>> handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message
>>news:<20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com>...
>>> > My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to
>>have
>>> > onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will
>>set me
>>> > back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other
>>tray in
>>> > the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
>>than the
>>> > "main" one...
>>> >
>>> > -jeff
>>

jbjeep

Nope, there is one more option. www.wranglernw.com

However, I dont have air, but what I did was use the Kilby tray and get the isolater
setup from Wrangler NW, and picked up the red and yellow optimas as blems from a
local parts store.

Isolator was about $90
Kilby tray was about $100
Blem batteries were around $70 and $75 I think.
Plus a few small parts had to be purchased - under $20 total.


On Fri, 21 May 2004 00:39:01 GMT, "Jim Bratton" <jbratton1@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>>If you have A/C in a newer Wrangler you have 2 practical choices. 1 is from
>>Kilby Enterprises and the other is from another Company that sells product
>>through Quadratec (I forget name). Kilby uses Optima and the other uses
>>Hawker Odessey. The advantage of the Hawker is the batteries are smaller..
>>that way you do not have to install the "twisted A/C tube" provided with the
>>Kilby solution. The A/C tube requires re-charging A/C system.
>>
>>Both are pricey due to battery cost. Personally I am weary of Optima
>>because a yellow-top failed on me and nobody (including Optima) would lift a
>>finger to offer warranty... I.e no-warranty except for false statements from
>>catalog and manufacturer of product (each points to each other for
>>warranty---check Optima and popular catalogs warranty statement). Dont get
>>cheated... buy from dealer who will deliver warranty themselves.... ask for
>>warranty in writing from dealer...
>>-Jim
>>
>>">
>>> handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message
>>news:<20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com>...
>>> > My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to
>>have
>>> > onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will
>>set me
>>> > back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other
>>tray in
>>> > the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
>>than the
>>> > "main" one...
>>> >
>>> > -jeff
>>

jbjeep

Nope, there is one more option. www.wranglernw.com

However, I dont have air, but what I did was use the Kilby tray and get the isolater
setup from Wrangler NW, and picked up the red and yellow optimas as blems from a
local parts store.

Isolator was about $90
Kilby tray was about $100
Blem batteries were around $70 and $75 I think.
Plus a few small parts had to be purchased - under $20 total.


On Fri, 21 May 2004 00:39:01 GMT, "Jim Bratton" <jbratton1@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>>If you have A/C in a newer Wrangler you have 2 practical choices. 1 is from
>>Kilby Enterprises and the other is from another Company that sells product
>>through Quadratec (I forget name). Kilby uses Optima and the other uses
>>Hawker Odessey. The advantage of the Hawker is the batteries are smaller..
>>that way you do not have to install the "twisted A/C tube" provided with the
>>Kilby solution. The A/C tube requires re-charging A/C system.
>>
>>Both are pricey due to battery cost. Personally I am weary of Optima
>>because a yellow-top failed on me and nobody (including Optima) would lift a
>>finger to offer warranty... I.e no-warranty except for false statements from
>>catalog and manufacturer of product (each points to each other for
>>warranty---check Optima and popular catalogs warranty statement). Dont get
>>cheated... buy from dealer who will deliver warranty themselves.... ask for
>>warranty in writing from dealer...
>>-Jim
>>
>>">
>>> handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message
>>news:<20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com>...
>>> > My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to
>>have
>>> > onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will
>>set me
>>> > back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other
>>tray in
>>> > the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
>>than the
>>> > "main" one...
>>> >
>>> > -jeff
>>

jbjeep

Sure...but I need the second battery to run the fridge, the radio, etc. while we are
on the trail for a week. =)



On Thu, 20 May 2004 20:22:05 -0700, "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>>After having run my Warn HS9500i MANY times over the past five years with a
>>single Optima Yellow Top battery in my '97 TJ, with a number of hard
>>repetitive pulls and three replacement wire ropes due to all the use my
>>winch has had, I no longer feel a second battery is needed. Simple
>>common-sense battery management is all you really need. :)
>>
>>Jerry

jbjeep

Sure...but I need the second battery to run the fridge, the radio, etc. while we are
on the trail for a week. =)



On Thu, 20 May 2004 20:22:05 -0700, "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>>After having run my Warn HS9500i MANY times over the past five years with a
>>single Optima Yellow Top battery in my '97 TJ, with a number of hard
>>repetitive pulls and three replacement wire ropes due to all the use my
>>winch has had, I no longer feel a second battery is needed. Simple
>>common-sense battery management is all you really need. :)
>>
>>Jerry

jbjeep

Sure...but I need the second battery to run the fridge, the radio, etc. while we are
on the trail for a week. =)



On Thu, 20 May 2004 20:22:05 -0700, "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>>After having run my Warn HS9500i MANY times over the past five years with a
>>single Optima Yellow Top battery in my '97 TJ, with a number of hard
>>repetitive pulls and three replacement wire ropes due to all the use my
>>winch has had, I no longer feel a second battery is needed. Simple
>>common-sense battery management is all you really need. :)
>>
>>Jerry

jbjeep

Sure...but I need the second battery to run the fridge, the radio, etc. while we are
on the trail for a week. =)



On Thu, 20 May 2004 20:22:05 -0700, "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>>After having run my Warn HS9500i MANY times over the past five years with a
>>single Optima Yellow Top battery in my '97 TJ, with a number of hard
>>repetitive pulls and three replacement wire ropes due to all the use my
>>winch has had, I no longer feel a second battery is needed. Simple
>>common-sense battery management is all you really need. :)
>>
>>Jerry