Dual battery, cost and other considerations...
#11
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Re: Dual battery, cost and other considerations...
If you have A/C in a newer Wrangler you have 2 practical choices. 1 is from
Kilby Enterprises and the other is from another Company that sells product
through Quadratec (I forget name). Kilby uses Optima and the other uses
Hawker Odessey. The advantage of the Hawker is the batteries are smaller..
that way you do not have to install the "twisted A/C tube" provided with the
Kilby solution. The A/C tube requires re-charging A/C system.
Both are pricey due to battery cost. Personally I am weary of Optima
because a yellow-top failed on me and nobody (including Optima) would lift a
finger to offer warranty... I.e no-warranty except for false statements from
catalog and manufacturer of product (each points to each other for
warranty---check Optima and popular catalogs warranty statement). Dont get
cheated... buy from dealer who will deliver warranty themselves.... ask for
warranty in writing from dealer...
-Jim
">
> handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message
news:<20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com>...
> > My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to
have
> > onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will
set me
> > back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other
tray in
> > the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> > "main" one...
> >
> > -jeff
Kilby Enterprises and the other is from another Company that sells product
through Quadratec (I forget name). Kilby uses Optima and the other uses
Hawker Odessey. The advantage of the Hawker is the batteries are smaller..
that way you do not have to install the "twisted A/C tube" provided with the
Kilby solution. The A/C tube requires re-charging A/C system.
Both are pricey due to battery cost. Personally I am weary of Optima
because a yellow-top failed on me and nobody (including Optima) would lift a
finger to offer warranty... I.e no-warranty except for false statements from
catalog and manufacturer of product (each points to each other for
warranty---check Optima and popular catalogs warranty statement). Dont get
cheated... buy from dealer who will deliver warranty themselves.... ask for
warranty in writing from dealer...
-Jim
">
> handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message
news:<20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com>...
> > My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to
have
> > onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will
set me
> > back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other
tray in
> > the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> > "main" one...
> >
> > -jeff
#12
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Re: Dual battery, cost and other considerations...
If you have A/C in a newer Wrangler you have 2 practical choices. 1 is from
Kilby Enterprises and the other is from another Company that sells product
through Quadratec (I forget name). Kilby uses Optima and the other uses
Hawker Odessey. The advantage of the Hawker is the batteries are smaller..
that way you do not have to install the "twisted A/C tube" provided with the
Kilby solution. The A/C tube requires re-charging A/C system.
Both are pricey due to battery cost. Personally I am weary of Optima
because a yellow-top failed on me and nobody (including Optima) would lift a
finger to offer warranty... I.e no-warranty except for false statements from
catalog and manufacturer of product (each points to each other for
warranty---check Optima and popular catalogs warranty statement). Dont get
cheated... buy from dealer who will deliver warranty themselves.... ask for
warranty in writing from dealer...
-Jim
">
> handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message
news:<20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com>...
> > My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to
have
> > onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will
set me
> > back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other
tray in
> > the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> > "main" one...
> >
> > -jeff
Kilby Enterprises and the other is from another Company that sells product
through Quadratec (I forget name). Kilby uses Optima and the other uses
Hawker Odessey. The advantage of the Hawker is the batteries are smaller..
that way you do not have to install the "twisted A/C tube" provided with the
Kilby solution. The A/C tube requires re-charging A/C system.
Both are pricey due to battery cost. Personally I am weary of Optima
because a yellow-top failed on me and nobody (including Optima) would lift a
finger to offer warranty... I.e no-warranty except for false statements from
catalog and manufacturer of product (each points to each other for
warranty---check Optima and popular catalogs warranty statement). Dont get
cheated... buy from dealer who will deliver warranty themselves.... ask for
warranty in writing from dealer...
-Jim
">
> handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message
news:<20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com>...
> > My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to
have
> > onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will
set me
> > back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other
tray in
> > the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> > "main" one...
> >
> > -jeff
#13
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Re: Dual battery, cost and other considerations...
If you have A/C in a newer Wrangler you have 2 practical choices. 1 is from
Kilby Enterprises and the other is from another Company that sells product
through Quadratec (I forget name). Kilby uses Optima and the other uses
Hawker Odessey. The advantage of the Hawker is the batteries are smaller..
that way you do not have to install the "twisted A/C tube" provided with the
Kilby solution. The A/C tube requires re-charging A/C system.
Both are pricey due to battery cost. Personally I am weary of Optima
because a yellow-top failed on me and nobody (including Optima) would lift a
finger to offer warranty... I.e no-warranty except for false statements from
catalog and manufacturer of product (each points to each other for
warranty---check Optima and popular catalogs warranty statement). Dont get
cheated... buy from dealer who will deliver warranty themselves.... ask for
warranty in writing from dealer...
-Jim
">
> handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message
news:<20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com>...
> > My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to
have
> > onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will
set me
> > back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other
tray in
> > the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> > "main" one...
> >
> > -jeff
Kilby Enterprises and the other is from another Company that sells product
through Quadratec (I forget name). Kilby uses Optima and the other uses
Hawker Odessey. The advantage of the Hawker is the batteries are smaller..
that way you do not have to install the "twisted A/C tube" provided with the
Kilby solution. The A/C tube requires re-charging A/C system.
Both are pricey due to battery cost. Personally I am weary of Optima
because a yellow-top failed on me and nobody (including Optima) would lift a
finger to offer warranty... I.e no-warranty except for false statements from
catalog and manufacturer of product (each points to each other for
warranty---check Optima and popular catalogs warranty statement). Dont get
cheated... buy from dealer who will deliver warranty themselves.... ask for
warranty in writing from dealer...
-Jim
">
> handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message
news:<20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com>...
> > My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to
have
> > onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will
set me
> > back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other
tray in
> > the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> > "main" one...
> >
> > -jeff
#14
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Re: Dual battery, cost and other considerations...
Dual battery tray - $100
2nd battery - $70
isolator - $80
solenoid - $30
misc. wiring - $30
All rough estimates as I remember when I did mine.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff
2nd battery - $70
isolator - $80
solenoid - $30
misc. wiring - $30
All rough estimates as I remember when I did mine.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff
#15
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Re: Dual battery, cost and other considerations...
Dual battery tray - $100
2nd battery - $70
isolator - $80
solenoid - $30
misc. wiring - $30
All rough estimates as I remember when I did mine.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff
2nd battery - $70
isolator - $80
solenoid - $30
misc. wiring - $30
All rough estimates as I remember when I did mine.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff
#16
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Re: Dual battery, cost and other considerations...
Dual battery tray - $100
2nd battery - $70
isolator - $80
solenoid - $30
misc. wiring - $30
All rough estimates as I remember when I did mine.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff
2nd battery - $70
isolator - $80
solenoid - $30
misc. wiring - $30
All rough estimates as I remember when I did mine.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff
#17
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Re: Dual battery, cost and other considerations...
Dual battery tray - $100
2nd battery - $70
isolator - $80
solenoid - $30
misc. wiring - $30
All rough estimates as I remember when I did mine.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff
2nd battery - $70
isolator - $80
solenoid - $30
misc. wiring - $30
All rough estimates as I remember when I did mine.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff
#18
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Re: Dual battery, cost and other considerations...
After having run my Warn HS9500i MANY times over the past five years with a
single Optima Yellow Top battery in my '97 TJ, with a number of hard
repetitive pulls and three replacement wire ropes due to all the use my
winch has had, I no longer feel a second battery is needed. Simple
common-sense battery management is all you really need. :)
Jerry
--
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"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff
single Optima Yellow Top battery in my '97 TJ, with a number of hard
repetitive pulls and three replacement wire ropes due to all the use my
winch has had, I no longer feel a second battery is needed. Simple
common-sense battery management is all you really need. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
N6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff
#19
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Re: Dual battery, cost and other considerations...
After having run my Warn HS9500i MANY times over the past five years with a
single Optima Yellow Top battery in my '97 TJ, with a number of hard
repetitive pulls and three replacement wire ropes due to all the use my
winch has had, I no longer feel a second battery is needed. Simple
common-sense battery management is all you really need. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
N6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff
single Optima Yellow Top battery in my '97 TJ, with a number of hard
repetitive pulls and three replacement wire ropes due to all the use my
winch has had, I no longer feel a second battery is needed. Simple
common-sense battery management is all you really need. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
N6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff
#20
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Re: Dual battery, cost and other considerations...
After having run my Warn HS9500i MANY times over the past five years with a
single Optima Yellow Top battery in my '97 TJ, with a number of hard
repetitive pulls and three replacement wire ropes due to all the use my
winch has had, I no longer feel a second battery is needed. Simple
common-sense battery management is all you really need. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
N6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff
single Optima Yellow Top battery in my '97 TJ, with a number of hard
repetitive pulls and three replacement wire ropes due to all the use my
winch has had, I no longer feel a second battery is needed. Simple
common-sense battery management is all you really need. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
N6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040520015016.20472.00001155@mb-m21.aol.com...
> My new X8000i has me thinking that a second battery would be nice to have
> onboard. Anyone care to give me the quick and dirty on what that will set
me
> back, and if it's indeed a good thing to do? Is that what the other tray
in
> the engine compartment is for? If so, it's for a much smaller battery
than the
> "main" one...
>
> -jeff