Earle Horton

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> billy ray wrote:
> > The regular Bosch Platinum plugs just have the one post, just like a
> > regular spark plug. The only difference I know of is the center
> > electrode down where it fires is platinum instead of copper.
> >
> > http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...06/Plat153.jpg
> >
> > Seeing how I change plugs every 2 years anyway there probably isn't
> > much justification for the platinum....
> >
> > If the +4s are causing him a rough idle Bosch will buy them back
>
> I run plain copper spark plugs. Either Champion or Autolite.
> Actually I think the Autolite are better made. The fancy plugs
> do nothing but waste money. With one exception. The platinum
> (non fancy) or Irridium plugs do last a lot longer and don't gap out.
> The only real reason to use them is if getting at the plugs is
> a pain in the ****. For the I6 it's just too darn easy to change plugs
> and looking at the plugs is the best way to catch engine problems.
>
> my .02 quatloos.
>
I like the way the manufacturer has done vehicle testing with OEM plugs.
One thing I learned at Microsoft is that tested combinations work, and
untested combinations don't work. With respect to spark plugs, tiny little
differences in heat range will affect gas mileage, plug life and maybe even
engine life. I have heard some horror stories about platinum plugs in
non-OEM applications. I will be putting platinum in my wife's CR-V, but
that's what came in it. I put Champion in my Jeep, non-platinum NGK in my
Civic, etc.

Earle



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Earle Horton

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:mQUWg.33630$iA5.19852@dukeread11...
> billy ray wrote:
> > The regular Bosch Platinum plugs just have the one post, just like a
> > regular spark plug. The only difference I know of is the center
> > electrode down where it fires is platinum instead of copper.
> >
> > http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...06/Plat153.jpg
> >
> > Seeing how I change plugs every 2 years anyway there probably isn't
> > much justification for the platinum....
> >
> > If the +4s are causing him a rough idle Bosch will buy them back
>
> I run plain copper spark plugs. Either Champion or Autolite.
> Actually I think the Autolite are better made. The fancy plugs
> do nothing but waste money. With one exception. The platinum
> (non fancy) or Irridium plugs do last a lot longer and don't gap out.
> The only real reason to use them is if getting at the plugs is
> a pain in the ****. For the I6 it's just too darn easy to change plugs
> and looking at the plugs is the best way to catch engine problems.
>
> my .02 quatloos.
>
I like the way the manufacturer has done vehicle testing with OEM plugs.
One thing I learned at Microsoft is that tested combinations work, and
untested combinations don't work. With respect to spark plugs, tiny little
differences in heat range will affect gas mileage, plug life and maybe even
engine life. I have heard some horror stories about platinum plugs in
non-OEM applications. I will be putting platinum in my wife's CR-V, but
that's what came in it. I put Champion in my Jeep, non-platinum NGK in my
Civic, etc.

Earle



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Earle Horton

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:mQUWg.33630$iA5.19852@dukeread11...
> billy ray wrote:
> > The regular Bosch Platinum plugs just have the one post, just like a
> > regular spark plug. The only difference I know of is the center
> > electrode down where it fires is platinum instead of copper.
> >
> > http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...06/Plat153.jpg
> >
> > Seeing how I change plugs every 2 years anyway there probably isn't
> > much justification for the platinum....
> >
> > If the +4s are causing him a rough idle Bosch will buy them back
>
> I run plain copper spark plugs. Either Champion or Autolite.
> Actually I think the Autolite are better made. The fancy plugs
> do nothing but waste money. With one exception. The platinum
> (non fancy) or Irridium plugs do last a lot longer and don't gap out.
> The only real reason to use them is if getting at the plugs is
> a pain in the ****. For the I6 it's just too darn easy to change plugs
> and looking at the plugs is the best way to catch engine problems.
>
> my .02 quatloos.
>
I like the way the manufacturer has done vehicle testing with OEM plugs.
One thing I learned at Microsoft is that tested combinations work, and
untested combinations don't work. With respect to spark plugs, tiny little
differences in heat range will affect gas mileage, plug life and maybe even
engine life. I have heard some horror stories about platinum plugs in
non-OEM applications. I will be putting platinum in my wife's CR-V, but
that's what came in it. I put Champion in my Jeep, non-platinum NGK in my
Civic, etc.

Earle



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Coasty

Doug,

You have too much time on your hands! Jsut Kidding I thought I was the only
one that keeps records like that. I use to do it in a log book until I got
a computer have been doing it in XL ever since. I even put in the
maintenance/parts costs and can look at the overall costs for the live of
the vehicle. I even keep the log on my lawn equipment with two file draws
of OEM manuals of everything else.
Coasty



"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:0TiWg.32905$iA5.502@dukeread11...
> kevin.dooks@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
>> Hi all, after purchasing the '04 GC I posted about a few weeks back, I
>> was initially thrilled with a combined fuel economy of 22 MPG !
>>
>> However now that the temperature is starting to drop here in the
>> frozen north, I am somewhat distressed with the current 14 MPG.
>>
>> Nothing has changed, my driving habits, routes and distances are the
>> same, the only change has been the outside temperature.
>>
>> I am thinking that I may have a sensor going a bit flakey.
>> Anyone have any thoughts ?
>
> O2 sensor can do this, but it's more likely in warmer weahter.
> Does your area switch to "winter blends"?
>
> FWIW, this is what I use to track milage and other stuff.
>
> instructions not included. :)
> http://www.revbeergoggles.com/gasminder/
>
> --
> DougW
>

Coasty

Doug,

You have too much time on your hands! Jsut Kidding I thought I was the only
one that keeps records like that. I use to do it in a log book until I got
a computer have been doing it in XL ever since. I even put in the
maintenance/parts costs and can look at the overall costs for the live of
the vehicle. I even keep the log on my lawn equipment with two file draws
of OEM manuals of everything else.
Coasty



"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:0TiWg.32905$iA5.502@dukeread11...
> kevin.dooks@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
>> Hi all, after purchasing the '04 GC I posted about a few weeks back, I
>> was initially thrilled with a combined fuel economy of 22 MPG !
>>
>> However now that the temperature is starting to drop here in the
>> frozen north, I am somewhat distressed with the current 14 MPG.
>>
>> Nothing has changed, my driving habits, routes and distances are the
>> same, the only change has been the outside temperature.
>>
>> I am thinking that I may have a sensor going a bit flakey.
>> Anyone have any thoughts ?
>
> O2 sensor can do this, but it's more likely in warmer weahter.
> Does your area switch to "winter blends"?
>
> FWIW, this is what I use to track milage and other stuff.
>
> instructions not included. :)
> http://www.revbeergoggles.com/gasminder/
>
> --
> DougW
>

Coasty

Doug,

You have too much time on your hands! Jsut Kidding I thought I was the only
one that keeps records like that. I use to do it in a log book until I got
a computer have been doing it in XL ever since. I even put in the
maintenance/parts costs and can look at the overall costs for the live of
the vehicle. I even keep the log on my lawn equipment with two file draws
of OEM manuals of everything else.
Coasty



"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:0TiWg.32905$iA5.502@dukeread11...
> kevin.dooks@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
>> Hi all, after purchasing the '04 GC I posted about a few weeks back, I
>> was initially thrilled with a combined fuel economy of 22 MPG !
>>
>> However now that the temperature is starting to drop here in the
>> frozen north, I am somewhat distressed with the current 14 MPG.
>>
>> Nothing has changed, my driving habits, routes and distances are the
>> same, the only change has been the outside temperature.
>>
>> I am thinking that I may have a sensor going a bit flakey.
>> Anyone have any thoughts ?
>
> O2 sensor can do this, but it's more likely in warmer weahter.
> Does your area switch to "winter blends"?
>
> FWIW, this is what I use to track milage and other stuff.
>
> instructions not included. :)
> http://www.revbeergoggles.com/gasminder/
>
> --
> DougW
>

DougW

Coasty wrote:
> Doug,
>
> You have too much time on your hands! Jsut Kidding I thought I was
> the only one that keeps records like that. I use to do it in a log
> book until I got a computer have been doing it in XL ever since. I
> even put in the maintenance/parts costs and can look at the overall
> costs for the live of the vehicle. I even keep the log on my lawn
> equipment with two file draws of OEM manuals of everything else.
> Coasty

:)

It's a hobby.

I started the log just to see if the vehicle actually got the milage
shown on the sticker. Then I just wondered how milage fluctuated over
summer/winter. Then I wondered about octane and if higher or lower made
any difference (apart from cost).. It sort of grew from that.

It's kind of amazing what you can do with excel. I've built some
------sheets for work that do a lot of number crunching.

--
DougW

DougW

Coasty wrote:
> Doug,
>
> You have too much time on your hands! Jsut Kidding I thought I was
> the only one that keeps records like that. I use to do it in a log
> book until I got a computer have been doing it in XL ever since. I
> even put in the maintenance/parts costs and can look at the overall
> costs for the live of the vehicle. I even keep the log on my lawn
> equipment with two file draws of OEM manuals of everything else.
> Coasty

:)

It's a hobby.

I started the log just to see if the vehicle actually got the milage
shown on the sticker. Then I just wondered how milage fluctuated over
summer/winter. Then I wondered about octane and if higher or lower made
any difference (apart from cost).. It sort of grew from that.

It's kind of amazing what you can do with excel. I've built some
------sheets for work that do a lot of number crunching.

--
DougW

DougW

Coasty wrote:
> Doug,
>
> You have too much time on your hands! Jsut Kidding I thought I was
> the only one that keeps records like that. I use to do it in a log
> book until I got a computer have been doing it in XL ever since. I
> even put in the maintenance/parts costs and can look at the overall
> costs for the live of the vehicle. I even keep the log on my lawn
> equipment with two file draws of OEM manuals of everything else.
> Coasty

:)

It's a hobby.

I started the log just to see if the vehicle actually got the milage
shown on the sticker. Then I just wondered how milage fluctuated over
summer/winter. Then I wondered about octane and if higher or lower made
any difference (apart from cost).. It sort of grew from that.

It's kind of amazing what you can do with excel. I've built some
------sheets for work that do a lot of number crunching.

--
DougW