drool
#31
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Re: drool
Hi Brian,
This picture removes any guessing at all:
http://mystic-dragon.net/albums/albu...0964.sized.jpg It's angle
difference is dangerous! And the adjustable track bar you have, doesn't
get it. The mount has to change as you see on this TJ:
http://www.cowtownjeeps.com/tech/FrontSusp.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> Bill, I know what you mean but the fact is;
> The track bar and the drag link could be shaped like pretzels as long as the
> imaginary line between the pitman arm joint / tie rod joint is parallel and
> equal length to the imaginary line between the axle mount / frame mount of
> the track bar. Having said all that, I think we're on the same page just
> over-complicating the discussion. And yes, I have compensated for my lift
> with an adjustable track bar. I hope the TRE wears out fast so I can justify
> a bushing end with a new mount. One less grease fitting and no travel
> restrictions.
>
> -Brian
This picture removes any guessing at all:
http://mystic-dragon.net/albums/albu...0964.sized.jpg It's angle
difference is dangerous! And the adjustable track bar you have, doesn't
get it. The mount has to change as you see on this TJ:
http://www.cowtownjeeps.com/tech/FrontSusp.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> Bill, I know what you mean but the fact is;
> The track bar and the drag link could be shaped like pretzels as long as the
> imaginary line between the pitman arm joint / tie rod joint is parallel and
> equal length to the imaginary line between the axle mount / frame mount of
> the track bar. Having said all that, I think we're on the same page just
> over-complicating the discussion. And yes, I have compensated for my lift
> with an adjustable track bar. I hope the TRE wears out fast so I can justify
> a bushing end with a new mount. One less grease fitting and no travel
> restrictions.
>
> -Brian
#32
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Re: drool
I like this one:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/readers/2003_02/
The air-chuck disconnects on the anti-swaybar links are a neat idea.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
DougW wrote:
> From the ZJ list digest.
>
> http://mystic-dragon.net/albums/albu...0962.sized.jpg
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/readers/2003_02/
The air-chuck disconnects on the anti-swaybar links are a neat idea.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
DougW wrote:
> From the ZJ list digest.
>
> http://mystic-dragon.net/albums/albu...0962.sized.jpg
#33
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Re: drool
I like this one:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/readers/2003_02/
The air-chuck disconnects on the anti-swaybar links are a neat idea.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
DougW wrote:
> From the ZJ list digest.
>
> http://mystic-dragon.net/albums/albu...0962.sized.jpg
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/readers/2003_02/
The air-chuck disconnects on the anti-swaybar links are a neat idea.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
DougW wrote:
> From the ZJ list digest.
>
> http://mystic-dragon.net/albums/albu...0962.sized.jpg
#34
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Re: drool
I like this one:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/readers/2003_02/
The air-chuck disconnects on the anti-swaybar links are a neat idea.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
DougW wrote:
> From the ZJ list digest.
>
> http://mystic-dragon.net/albums/albu...0962.sized.jpg
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/readers/2003_02/
The air-chuck disconnects on the anti-swaybar links are a neat idea.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
DougW wrote:
> From the ZJ list digest.
>
> http://mystic-dragon.net/albums/albu...0962.sized.jpg
#35
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Re: drool
The track bar and the drag link need to be parallel. Even if the track bar
was straight (and you can see it in the 2nd pic) it would not be parallel
with the drag link since it terminates well inboard of the draglink-tierod
balljoint.
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:MsCdnenXmfnRU-XcRVn-3g@rogers.com...
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>
> : I wouldn't drive the car, look at the track bar angle. Drive fifty
> : five through shakies would take up two full lanes.
>
> I know what you are referring to Bill but without a full view of the track
> bar you can't make that judgement. It's the imaginary line between the
frame
> mount and the axle mount that matters not so much the angle of the actual
> track bar.
>
> If the axle mount end is flat for 6" then angled 45* then flat for 8" into
> the frame end it could react the same as one flat for 3"/30*/4"... without
> doing the fancy math of course!
>
> I'm not saying you're wrong just that it is hard to tell without being
under
> without an angle finder or at least having a better view.
>
> -Brian
>
>
was straight (and you can see it in the 2nd pic) it would not be parallel
with the drag link since it terminates well inboard of the draglink-tierod
balljoint.
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:MsCdnenXmfnRU-XcRVn-3g@rogers.com...
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>
> : I wouldn't drive the car, look at the track bar angle. Drive fifty
> : five through shakies would take up two full lanes.
>
> I know what you are referring to Bill but without a full view of the track
> bar you can't make that judgement. It's the imaginary line between the
frame
> mount and the axle mount that matters not so much the angle of the actual
> track bar.
>
> If the axle mount end is flat for 6" then angled 45* then flat for 8" into
> the frame end it could react the same as one flat for 3"/30*/4"... without
> doing the fancy math of course!
>
> I'm not saying you're wrong just that it is hard to tell without being
under
> without an angle finder or at least having a better view.
>
> -Brian
>
>
#36
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Re: drool
The track bar and the drag link need to be parallel. Even if the track bar
was straight (and you can see it in the 2nd pic) it would not be parallel
with the drag link since it terminates well inboard of the draglink-tierod
balljoint.
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:MsCdnenXmfnRU-XcRVn-3g@rogers.com...
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>
> : I wouldn't drive the car, look at the track bar angle. Drive fifty
> : five through shakies would take up two full lanes.
>
> I know what you are referring to Bill but without a full view of the track
> bar you can't make that judgement. It's the imaginary line between the
frame
> mount and the axle mount that matters not so much the angle of the actual
> track bar.
>
> If the axle mount end is flat for 6" then angled 45* then flat for 8" into
> the frame end it could react the same as one flat for 3"/30*/4"... without
> doing the fancy math of course!
>
> I'm not saying you're wrong just that it is hard to tell without being
under
> without an angle finder or at least having a better view.
>
> -Brian
>
>
was straight (and you can see it in the 2nd pic) it would not be parallel
with the drag link since it terminates well inboard of the draglink-tierod
balljoint.
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:MsCdnenXmfnRU-XcRVn-3g@rogers.com...
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>
> : I wouldn't drive the car, look at the track bar angle. Drive fifty
> : five through shakies would take up two full lanes.
>
> I know what you are referring to Bill but without a full view of the track
> bar you can't make that judgement. It's the imaginary line between the
frame
> mount and the axle mount that matters not so much the angle of the actual
> track bar.
>
> If the axle mount end is flat for 6" then angled 45* then flat for 8" into
> the frame end it could react the same as one flat for 3"/30*/4"... without
> doing the fancy math of course!
>
> I'm not saying you're wrong just that it is hard to tell without being
under
> without an angle finder or at least having a better view.
>
> -Brian
>
>
#37
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Re: drool
The track bar and the drag link need to be parallel. Even if the track bar
was straight (and you can see it in the 2nd pic) it would not be parallel
with the drag link since it terminates well inboard of the draglink-tierod
balljoint.
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:MsCdnenXmfnRU-XcRVn-3g@rogers.com...
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>
> : I wouldn't drive the car, look at the track bar angle. Drive fifty
> : five through shakies would take up two full lanes.
>
> I know what you are referring to Bill but without a full view of the track
> bar you can't make that judgement. It's the imaginary line between the
frame
> mount and the axle mount that matters not so much the angle of the actual
> track bar.
>
> If the axle mount end is flat for 6" then angled 45* then flat for 8" into
> the frame end it could react the same as one flat for 3"/30*/4"... without
> doing the fancy math of course!
>
> I'm not saying you're wrong just that it is hard to tell without being
under
> without an angle finder or at least having a better view.
>
> -Brian
>
>
was straight (and you can see it in the 2nd pic) it would not be parallel
with the drag link since it terminates well inboard of the draglink-tierod
balljoint.
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:MsCdnenXmfnRU-XcRVn-3g@rogers.com...
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>
> : I wouldn't drive the car, look at the track bar angle. Drive fifty
> : five through shakies would take up two full lanes.
>
> I know what you are referring to Bill but without a full view of the track
> bar you can't make that judgement. It's the imaginary line between the
frame
> mount and the axle mount that matters not so much the angle of the actual
> track bar.
>
> If the axle mount end is flat for 6" then angled 45* then flat for 8" into
> the frame end it could react the same as one flat for 3"/30*/4"... without
> doing the fancy math of course!
>
> I'm not saying you're wrong just that it is hard to tell without being
under
> without an angle finder or at least having a better view.
>
> -Brian
>
>