Dave Milne

It was Austrian growers in 1985 (not French ones - my mistake).
The additive was diethylene glycol, deliberately added in the final mixture
as the wine merchant figured that they would scan for sugar and saccharine,
but not glycol. Fairly callous as 110 ml is usually enough to kill you.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"DaveW" <spsffan@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:HbK9d.147$Rp4.129@trnddc01...
> Sorry for the top post, but was the wine thing for real or was it just
> on the Simpsons??
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > It's nasty stuff. I remember the scandal when I was a teenager when some
> > French wine producers put it in some low grade wine to make it taste
> > sweeter.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4166F10A.93E57C0C@***.net...
> >
> >> Ethylene glycol has been used to poison many people:
> >>http://www.courttv.com/trials/turner/051204_ctv.html
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Dave Milne wrote:
> >>
> >>>It kills cats, dogs and other animals who are attracted to it as it
> >
> > smells
> >
> >>>and tastes sweet to them.
> >>>Please let us decide for you :-)
> >>>
> >>>Dave Milne, Scotland
> >>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> >
> >

Mike Romain

It was for real.

They pulled a mess from the shelves. It has happened more than once
too.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

DaveW wrote:
>
> Sorry for the top post, but was the wine thing for real or was it just
> on the Simpsons??
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > It's nasty stuff. I remember the scandal when I was a teenager when some
> > French wine producers put it in some low grade wine to make it taste
> > sweeter.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4166F10A.93E57C0C@***.net...
> >
> >> Ethylene glycol has been used to poison many people:
> >>http://www.courttv.com/trials/turner/051204_ctv.html
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Dave Milne wrote:
> >>
> >>>It kills cats, dogs and other animals who are attracted to it as it
> >
> > smells
> >
> >>>and tastes sweet to them.
> >>>Please let us decide for you :-)
> >>>
> >>>Dave Milne, Scotland
> >>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> >
> >

Mike Romain

It was for real.

They pulled a mess from the shelves. It has happened more than once
too.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

DaveW wrote:
>
> Sorry for the top post, but was the wine thing for real or was it just
> on the Simpsons??
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > It's nasty stuff. I remember the scandal when I was a teenager when some
> > French wine producers put it in some low grade wine to make it taste
> > sweeter.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4166F10A.93E57C0C@***.net...
> >
> >> Ethylene glycol has been used to poison many people:
> >>http://www.courttv.com/trials/turner/051204_ctv.html
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Dave Milne wrote:
> >>
> >>>It kills cats, dogs and other animals who are attracted to it as it
> >
> > smells
> >
> >>>and tastes sweet to them.
> >>>Please let us decide for you :-)
> >>>
> >>>Dave Milne, Scotland
> >>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> >
> >

Mike Romain

It was for real.

They pulled a mess from the shelves. It has happened more than once
too.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

DaveW wrote:
>
> Sorry for the top post, but was the wine thing for real or was it just
> on the Simpsons??
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > It's nasty stuff. I remember the scandal when I was a teenager when some
> > French wine producers put it in some low grade wine to make it taste
> > sweeter.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4166F10A.93E57C0C@***.net...
> >
> >> Ethylene glycol has been used to poison many people:
> >>http://www.courttv.com/trials/turner/051204_ctv.html
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Dave Milne wrote:
> >>
> >>>It kills cats, dogs and other animals who are attracted to it as it
> >
> > smells
> >
> >>>and tastes sweet to them.
> >>>Please let us decide for you :-)
> >>>
> >>>Dave Milne, Scotland
> >>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> >
> >

CRWLR

I didn't mean to suggest you just let coolant drain and lay on the ground
for the animals to lap up. I assumed you live in a residential neighborhood
with gutters and such, and that you would flush the few quarts of coolant
with several gallons of water. If I was going to drain my coolant, I would
capture it, or as much as I could, then thoroughly wash the area so the
mixture was on a scale of just a few ppm of the water.




"harry palmer" <rob@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> "harry palmer" <rob@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:Vtn9d.4742$5b1.896@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
> > As I mentioned a while back, my Cj5 has been sitting in a garage for 5
> years
> > unused. We started it up last week and it worked like a champ. You folks
> > gave me some great advice that I will be following this Saturday about
> > draining the Brake, cooling, oil systems. The problem is that I don't
know
> > how. Is there a website that has instructions about how to go about
this?
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> >
> > Hp
> >
> > --
> > When nothing seems to help, I go and look at a stonecutter hammering
away
> at
> > his rock perhaps a hundred times without as much as a crack showing in
it.
> > Yet at the hundred and first blow it will split in two, and I know it
was
> > not that blow that did it, but all that had gone before.
> >
> >
>
> Thanks for all the GREAT advice. I think I'm going to give this a shot
> myself, why own a great jeep like a CJ5 otherwise. I'll get back to you
all
> with my results and hospital bill detail.
>
> Harry
>
>

CRWLR

I didn't mean to suggest you just let coolant drain and lay on the ground
for the animals to lap up. I assumed you live in a residential neighborhood
with gutters and such, and that you would flush the few quarts of coolant
with several gallons of water. If I was going to drain my coolant, I would
capture it, or as much as I could, then thoroughly wash the area so the
mixture was on a scale of just a few ppm of the water.




"harry palmer" <rob@aol.com> wrote in message
news:vkF9d.5068$5b1.188@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
>
> "harry palmer" <rob@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:Vtn9d.4742$5b1.896@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
> > As I mentioned a while back, my Cj5 has been sitting in a garage for 5
> years
> > unused. We started it up last week and it worked like a champ. You folks
> > gave me some great advice that I will be following this Saturday about
> > draining the Brake, cooling, oil systems. The problem is that I don't
know
> > how. Is there a website that has instructions about how to go about
this?
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> >
> > Hp
> >
> > --
> > When nothing seems to help, I go and look at a stonecutter hammering
away
> at
> > his rock perhaps a hundred times without as much as a crack showing in
it.
> > Yet at the hundred and first blow it will split in two, and I know it
was
> > not that blow that did it, but all that had gone before.
> >
> >
>
> Thanks for all the GREAT advice. I think I'm going to give this a shot
> myself, why own a great jeep like a CJ5 otherwise. I'll get back to you
all
> with my results and hospital bill detail.
>
> Harry
>
>

CRWLR

I didn't mean to suggest you just let coolant drain and lay on the ground
for the animals to lap up. I assumed you live in a residential neighborhood
with gutters and such, and that you would flush the few quarts of coolant
with several gallons of water. If I was going to drain my coolant, I would
capture it, or as much as I could, then thoroughly wash the area so the
mixture was on a scale of just a few ppm of the water.




"harry palmer" <rob@aol.com> wrote in message
news:vkF9d.5068$5b1.188@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
>
> "harry palmer" <rob@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:Vtn9d.4742$5b1.896@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
> > As I mentioned a while back, my Cj5 has been sitting in a garage for 5
> years
> > unused. We started it up last week and it worked like a champ. You folks
> > gave me some great advice that I will be following this Saturday about
> > draining the Brake, cooling, oil systems. The problem is that I don't
know
> > how. Is there a website that has instructions about how to go about
this?
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> >
> > Hp
> >
> > --
> > When nothing seems to help, I go and look at a stonecutter hammering
away
> at
> > his rock perhaps a hundred times without as much as a crack showing in
it.
> > Yet at the hundred and first blow it will split in two, and I know it
was
> > not that blow that did it, but all that had gone before.
> >
> >
>
> Thanks for all the GREAT advice. I think I'm going to give this a shot
> myself, why own a great jeep like a CJ5 otherwise. I'll get back to you
all
> with my results and hospital bill detail.
>
> Harry
>
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

So do I, but I must admit it wasn't until about twenty years ago, I
learned just how poisonous ethylene glucose was. I mean we don't do
anything special for wood alcohol, we just don't drink it. Fortunately,
for our environment my station had sump separators that trapped
hazardous waste.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> I didn't mean to suggest you just let coolant drain and lay on the ground
> for the animals to lap up. I assumed you live in a residential neighborhood
> with gutters and such, and that you would flush the few quarts of coolant
> with several gallons of water. If I was going to drain my coolant, I would
> capture it, or as much as I could, then thoroughly wash the area so the
> mixture was on a scale of just a few ppm of the water.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

So do I, but I must admit it wasn't until about twenty years ago, I
learned just how poisonous ethylene glucose was. I mean we don't do
anything special for wood alcohol, we just don't drink it. Fortunately,
for our environment my station had sump separators that trapped
hazardous waste.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> I didn't mean to suggest you just let coolant drain and lay on the ground
> for the animals to lap up. I assumed you live in a residential neighborhood
> with gutters and such, and that you would flush the few quarts of coolant
> with several gallons of water. If I was going to drain my coolant, I would
> capture it, or as much as I could, then thoroughly wash the area so the
> mixture was on a scale of just a few ppm of the water.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

So do I, but I must admit it wasn't until about twenty years ago, I
learned just how poisonous ethylene glucose was. I mean we don't do
anything special for wood alcohol, we just don't drink it. Fortunately,
for our environment my station had sump separators that trapped
hazardous waste.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> I didn't mean to suggest you just let coolant drain and lay on the ground
> for the animals to lap up. I assumed you live in a residential neighborhood
> with gutters and such, and that you would flush the few quarts of coolant
> with several gallons of water. If I was going to drain my coolant, I would
> capture it, or as much as I could, then thoroughly wash the area so the
> mixture was on a scale of just a few ppm of the water.