griffin

Ya, it takes awhile to get fast at it. I used to practice in my Saturn SL1
all the time just for kicks. In a car that can handle the speed with a short
throw (ie: Honda Prelude ...or, believe it or not, an older '93 Ford Probe),
I can double clutch faster than most people can regular-clutch. Car-wise,
though, I know it's impractical. I was just wondering about the synchro in
big Truck trannies ...

"SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
news:DdGdncPV9PKhq8bcRVn-qQ@rogers.com...
> gotta get good at it to be fast at it I guess.
>
> Was this what had to be done on manual trannys from back in teh day?
>

griffin

Ya, it takes awhile to get fast at it. I used to practice in my Saturn SL1
all the time just for kicks. In a car that can handle the speed with a short
throw (ie: Honda Prelude ...or, believe it or not, an older '93 Ford Probe),
I can double clutch faster than most people can regular-clutch. Car-wise,
though, I know it's impractical. I was just wondering about the synchro in
big Truck trannies ...

"SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
news:DdGdncPV9PKhq8bcRVn-qQ@rogers.com...
> gotta get good at it to be fast at it I guess.
>
> Was this what had to be done on manual trannys from back in teh day?
>

griffin

Ya, it takes awhile to get fast at it. I used to practice in my Saturn SL1
all the time just for kicks. In a car that can handle the speed with a short
throw (ie: Honda Prelude ...or, believe it or not, an older '93 Ford Probe),
I can double clutch faster than most people can regular-clutch. Car-wise,
though, I know it's impractical. I was just wondering about the synchro in
big Truck trannies ...

"SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
news:DdGdncPV9PKhq8bcRVn-qQ@rogers.com...
> gotta get good at it to be fast at it I guess.
>
> Was this what had to be done on manual trannys from back in teh day?
>

griffin

Ya, this makes sense to me, especially in a car, but it just seems to shift
easier and ride smoother when I double-clutch. Maybe I guess the trick is to
just single clutch but add a bit of time between the neutral and the next
gear?


"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:JqGdnRjYIumCh8bcRVn-sw@rogers.com...
> Unnecessary on a fully synch'd transmission. Keep in mind everytime you
> engage and disengage a clutch you are causing wear.
>
> -Brian
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:C9E6d.561107$gE.456649@pd7tw3no...
> : I'm of the habit of double-clutching when driving any kind of truck,
> : especially when gearing down and am wondering if this is better/worse/no
> : difference when driving my '85 Jeep CJ7? Any opinions?
> :
> :
>
>

griffin

Ya, this makes sense to me, especially in a car, but it just seems to shift
easier and ride smoother when I double-clutch. Maybe I guess the trick is to
just single clutch but add a bit of time between the neutral and the next
gear?


"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:JqGdnRjYIumCh8bcRVn-sw@rogers.com...
> Unnecessary on a fully synch'd transmission. Keep in mind everytime you
> engage and disengage a clutch you are causing wear.
>
> -Brian
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:C9E6d.561107$gE.456649@pd7tw3no...
> : I'm of the habit of double-clutching when driving any kind of truck,
> : especially when gearing down and am wondering if this is better/worse/no
> : difference when driving my '85 Jeep CJ7? Any opinions?
> :
> :
>
>

griffin

Ya, this makes sense to me, especially in a car, but it just seems to shift
easier and ride smoother when I double-clutch. Maybe I guess the trick is to
just single clutch but add a bit of time between the neutral and the next
gear?


"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:JqGdnRjYIumCh8bcRVn-sw@rogers.com...
> Unnecessary on a fully synch'd transmission. Keep in mind everytime you
> engage and disengage a clutch you are causing wear.
>
> -Brian
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:C9E6d.561107$gE.456649@pd7tw3no...
> : I'm of the habit of double-clutching when driving any kind of truck,
> : especially when gearing down and am wondering if this is better/worse/no
> : difference when driving my '85 Jeep CJ7? Any opinions?
> :
> :
>
>

Mike Romain

How many gears? I have never heard of the numbers you give for a
standard tranny. Double clutching don't work for ---- on an
automatic....

I was told and a site confirmed that the 83 to 86 BW T-5's were the same
as the one Mustang among a bunch others use for their V-8's. Jeep even
recommended ATF for one or two years then went back to proper gear oil
by 85.

Not really a 'truck' tranny although with that long shift arm on it, it
sure feels like it some days....

Mike

griffin wrote:
>
> Stock tranny in a 4cyl 150CI '85 CJ7. I'd be assuming it would be a TF904?
> Anyone wanna confirm?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:415B1657.1C94E79A@sympatico.ca...
> > I usually find I am double clutching when I am having 'fun' and riding
> > the gears for power and snap. My wife will catch it too and comment
> > about 'don't have too much fun now'....
> >
> > The CJ7 Borg Warner World Class T-5 doesn't really seem to mind anyway.
> > It's shift is supposed to be more of a European 'feel' than the American
> > transmissions, hence the name.
> >
> > What tranny are you running?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

How many gears? I have never heard of the numbers you give for a
standard tranny. Double clutching don't work for ---- on an
automatic....

I was told and a site confirmed that the 83 to 86 BW T-5's were the same
as the one Mustang among a bunch others use for their V-8's. Jeep even
recommended ATF for one or two years then went back to proper gear oil
by 85.

Not really a 'truck' tranny although with that long shift arm on it, it
sure feels like it some days....

Mike

griffin wrote:
>
> Stock tranny in a 4cyl 150CI '85 CJ7. I'd be assuming it would be a TF904?
> Anyone wanna confirm?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:415B1657.1C94E79A@sympatico.ca...
> > I usually find I am double clutching when I am having 'fun' and riding
> > the gears for power and snap. My wife will catch it too and comment
> > about 'don't have too much fun now'....
> >
> > The CJ7 Borg Warner World Class T-5 doesn't really seem to mind anyway.
> > It's shift is supposed to be more of a European 'feel' than the American
> > transmissions, hence the name.
> >
> > What tranny are you running?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

How many gears? I have never heard of the numbers you give for a
standard tranny. Double clutching don't work for ---- on an
automatic....

I was told and a site confirmed that the 83 to 86 BW T-5's were the same
as the one Mustang among a bunch others use for their V-8's. Jeep even
recommended ATF for one or two years then went back to proper gear oil
by 85.

Not really a 'truck' tranny although with that long shift arm on it, it
sure feels like it some days....

Mike

griffin wrote:
>
> Stock tranny in a 4cyl 150CI '85 CJ7. I'd be assuming it would be a TF904?
> Anyone wanna confirm?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:415B1657.1C94E79A@sympatico.ca...
> > I usually find I am double clutching when I am having 'fun' and riding
> > the gears for power and snap. My wife will catch it too and comment
> > about 'don't have too much fun now'....
> >
> > The CJ7 Borg Warner World Class T-5 doesn't really seem to mind anyway.
> > It's shift is supposed to be more of a European 'feel' than the American
> > transmissions, hence the name.
> >
> > What tranny are you running?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

Just burp the gas, no need to burp the clutch pedal too.

Mike

griffin wrote:
>
> Ya, this makes sense to me, especially in a car, but it just seems to shift
> easier and ride smoother when I double-clutch. Maybe I guess the trick is to
> just single clutch but add a bit of time between the neutral and the next
> gear?
>
> "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> news:JqGdnRjYIumCh8bcRVn-sw@rogers.com...
> > Unnecessary on a fully synch'd transmission. Keep in mind everytime you
> > engage and disengage a clutch you are causing wear.
> >
> > -Brian
> >
> > "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:C9E6d.561107$gE.456649@pd7tw3no...
> > : I'm of the habit of double-clutching when driving any kind of truck,
> > : especially when gearing down and am wondering if this is better/worse/no
> > : difference when driving my '85 Jeep CJ7? Any opinions?
> > :
> > :
> >
> >