doors off laws
07-01-2004, 08:23 AM
#11
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Re: doors off laws
It is my understanding that some "progressive" states are beginning to
require doors regardless of whether they came on the vehicle originally. If
they have hinges, they would be required. HOWEVER, I don't know this for a
fact. I am basing my statement on recent posts of jeepers being pulled over
and issued citations for driving without doors on old CJ's. Now did these
citations hold up in court? I don't know. Even if a state doesn't require
doors, you always run the risk of being pulled over by a cop that is unclear
on the law (they aren't lawyers), or just a ***** with an agenda. In these
cases, it doesn't really matter what the laws are - it gets sorted out in
the courts if they go so far as to issue a citation. Regarding Safari doors,
I would expect you would be less likely to be pulled over, but the above
would still apply.
I believe all states require a rearview mirror on the driver's door and on
the windshield. The passenger's door is required if your windshield mirror
is inoperative due to a restriced view (cargo, bad rear window, etc.).
--
Dana C. Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
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> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
require doors regardless of whether they came on the vehicle originally. If
they have hinges, they would be required. HOWEVER, I don't know this for a
fact. I am basing my statement on recent posts of jeepers being pulled over
and issued citations for driving without doors on old CJ's. Now did these
citations hold up in court? I don't know. Even if a state doesn't require
doors, you always run the risk of being pulled over by a cop that is unclear
on the law (they aren't lawyers), or just a ***** with an agenda. In these
cases, it doesn't really matter what the laws are - it gets sorted out in
the courts if they go so far as to issue a citation. Regarding Safari doors,
I would expect you would be less likely to be pulled over, but the above
would still apply.
I believe all states require a rearview mirror on the driver's door and on
the windshield. The passenger's door is required if your windshield mirror
is inoperative due to a restriced view (cargo, bad rear window, etc.).
--
Dana C. Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
07-01-2004, 08:23 AM
#12
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Re: doors off laws
It is my understanding that some "progressive" states are beginning to
require doors regardless of whether they came on the vehicle originally. If
they have hinges, they would be required. HOWEVER, I don't know this for a
fact. I am basing my statement on recent posts of jeepers being pulled over
and issued citations for driving without doors on old CJ's. Now did these
citations hold up in court? I don't know. Even if a state doesn't require
doors, you always run the risk of being pulled over by a cop that is unclear
on the law (they aren't lawyers), or just a ***** with an agenda. In these
cases, it doesn't really matter what the laws are - it gets sorted out in
the courts if they go so far as to issue a citation. Regarding Safari doors,
I would expect you would be less likely to be pulled over, but the above
would still apply.
I believe all states require a rearview mirror on the driver's door and on
the windshield. The passenger's door is required if your windshield mirror
is inoperative due to a restriced view (cargo, bad rear window, etc.).
--
Dana C. Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
require doors regardless of whether they came on the vehicle originally. If
they have hinges, they would be required. HOWEVER, I don't know this for a
fact. I am basing my statement on recent posts of jeepers being pulled over
and issued citations for driving without doors on old CJ's. Now did these
citations hold up in court? I don't know. Even if a state doesn't require
doors, you always run the risk of being pulled over by a cop that is unclear
on the law (they aren't lawyers), or just a ***** with an agenda. In these
cases, it doesn't really matter what the laws are - it gets sorted out in
the courts if they go so far as to issue a citation. Regarding Safari doors,
I would expect you would be less likely to be pulled over, but the above
would still apply.
I believe all states require a rearview mirror on the driver's door and on
the windshield. The passenger's door is required if your windshield mirror
is inoperative due to a restriced view (cargo, bad rear window, etc.).
--
Dana C. Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
07-01-2004, 08:23 AM
#13
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Re: doors off laws
It is my understanding that some "progressive" states are beginning to
require doors regardless of whether they came on the vehicle originally. If
they have hinges, they would be required. HOWEVER, I don't know this for a
fact. I am basing my statement on recent posts of jeepers being pulled over
and issued citations for driving without doors on old CJ's. Now did these
citations hold up in court? I don't know. Even if a state doesn't require
doors, you always run the risk of being pulled over by a cop that is unclear
on the law (they aren't lawyers), or just a ***** with an agenda. In these
cases, it doesn't really matter what the laws are - it gets sorted out in
the courts if they go so far as to issue a citation. Regarding Safari doors,
I would expect you would be less likely to be pulled over, but the above
would still apply.
I believe all states require a rearview mirror on the driver's door and on
the windshield. The passenger's door is required if your windshield mirror
is inoperative due to a restriced view (cargo, bad rear window, etc.).
--
Dana C. Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
require doors regardless of whether they came on the vehicle originally. If
they have hinges, they would be required. HOWEVER, I don't know this for a
fact. I am basing my statement on recent posts of jeepers being pulled over
and issued citations for driving without doors on old CJ's. Now did these
citations hold up in court? I don't know. Even if a state doesn't require
doors, you always run the risk of being pulled over by a cop that is unclear
on the law (they aren't lawyers), or just a ***** with an agenda. In these
cases, it doesn't really matter what the laws are - it gets sorted out in
the courts if they go so far as to issue a citation. Regarding Safari doors,
I would expect you would be less likely to be pulled over, but the above
would still apply.
I believe all states require a rearview mirror on the driver's door and on
the windshield. The passenger's door is required if your windshield mirror
is inoperative due to a restriced view (cargo, bad rear window, etc.).
--
Dana C. Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
07-02-2004, 11:57 AM
#14
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Re: doors off laws
As a general rule, most jurisdictions will honor the rules of the home
state, that is if your state allows you to drive without doors, you can get
by in places where doors are needed. I would arm myself with a copy of the
rules of my state to show anybody that thought you should have lunch with
the judge.
I wouldn't hesitate to drive my CJ across country without the doors. Well, I
would hesitate to drive my CJ across country, but the doors are not my
issue.
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
state, that is if your state allows you to drive without doors, you can get
by in places where doors are needed. I would arm myself with a copy of the
rules of my state to show anybody that thought you should have lunch with
the judge.
I wouldn't hesitate to drive my CJ across country without the doors. Well, I
would hesitate to drive my CJ across country, but the doors are not my
issue.
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
07-02-2004, 11:57 AM
#15
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Re: doors off laws
As a general rule, most jurisdictions will honor the rules of the home
state, that is if your state allows you to drive without doors, you can get
by in places where doors are needed. I would arm myself with a copy of the
rules of my state to show anybody that thought you should have lunch with
the judge.
I wouldn't hesitate to drive my CJ across country without the doors. Well, I
would hesitate to drive my CJ across country, but the doors are not my
issue.
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
state, that is if your state allows you to drive without doors, you can get
by in places where doors are needed. I would arm myself with a copy of the
rules of my state to show anybody that thought you should have lunch with
the judge.
I wouldn't hesitate to drive my CJ across country without the doors. Well, I
would hesitate to drive my CJ across country, but the doors are not my
issue.
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
07-02-2004, 11:57 AM
#16
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Re: doors off laws
As a general rule, most jurisdictions will honor the rules of the home
state, that is if your state allows you to drive without doors, you can get
by in places where doors are needed. I would arm myself with a copy of the
rules of my state to show anybody that thought you should have lunch with
the judge.
I wouldn't hesitate to drive my CJ across country without the doors. Well, I
would hesitate to drive my CJ across country, but the doors are not my
issue.
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
state, that is if your state allows you to drive without doors, you can get
by in places where doors are needed. I would arm myself with a copy of the
rules of my state to show anybody that thought you should have lunch with
the judge.
I wouldn't hesitate to drive my CJ across country without the doors. Well, I
would hesitate to drive my CJ across country, but the doors are not my
issue.
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
07-02-2004, 11:57 AM
#17
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Re: doors off laws
As a general rule, most jurisdictions will honor the rules of the home
state, that is if your state allows you to drive without doors, you can get
by in places where doors are needed. I would arm myself with a copy of the
rules of my state to show anybody that thought you should have lunch with
the judge.
I wouldn't hesitate to drive my CJ across country without the doors. Well, I
would hesitate to drive my CJ across country, but the doors are not my
issue.
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
state, that is if your state allows you to drive without doors, you can get
by in places where doors are needed. I would arm myself with a copy of the
rules of my state to show anybody that thought you should have lunch with
the judge.
I wouldn't hesitate to drive my CJ across country without the doors. Well, I
would hesitate to drive my CJ across country, but the doors are not my
issue.
<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?
07-03-2004, 01:02 AM
#18
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Re: doors off laws
In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors
(have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states,
yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one
side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation
bracket to make me legal here.
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com)
wrote:
>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
>this msg previously
>
>
>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
>where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
>doors) satisfy the law?
(have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states,
yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one
side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation
bracket to make me legal here.
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com)
wrote:
>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
>this msg previously
>
>
>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
>where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
>doors) satisfy the law?
07-03-2004, 01:02 AM
#19
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Re: doors off laws
In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors
(have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states,
yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one
side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation
bracket to make me legal here.
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com)
wrote:
>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
>this msg previously
>
>
>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
>where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
>doors) satisfy the law?
(have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states,
yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one
side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation
bracket to make me legal here.
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com)
wrote:
>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
>this msg previously
>
>
>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
>where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
>doors) satisfy the law?
07-03-2004, 01:02 AM
#20
Guest
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Re: doors off laws
In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors
(have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states,
yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one
side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation
bracket to make me legal here.
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com)
wrote:
>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
>this msg previously
>
>
>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
>where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
>doors) satisfy the law?
(have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states,
yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one
side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation
bracket to make me legal here.
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com)
wrote:
>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
>this msg previously
>
>
>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
>where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
>doors) satisfy the law?