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ezeppelin@msn.com 06-30-2004 10:18 AM

doors off laws
 
Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
this msg previously


I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
where it's illegal, anyone got a list?

Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
doors) satisfy the law?

Mike Romain 06-30-2004 11:29 AM

Re: doors off laws
 
My Jeep didn't come stock with doors.

I do have hard and clear plastic full doors for it, but they 'are' an
option.

I drove across Canada with no doors on.

Mirror laws vary though. 'Most' places require an outside mirror, two
if you have the back full of cargo.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"ezeppelin@msn.com" wrote:
>
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?


Mike Romain 06-30-2004 11:29 AM

Re: doors off laws
 
My Jeep didn't come stock with doors.

I do have hard and clear plastic full doors for it, but they 'are' an
option.

I drove across Canada with no doors on.

Mirror laws vary though. 'Most' places require an outside mirror, two
if you have the back full of cargo.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"ezeppelin@msn.com" wrote:
>
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?


Mike Romain 06-30-2004 11:29 AM

Re: doors off laws
 
My Jeep didn't come stock with doors.

I do have hard and clear plastic full doors for it, but they 'are' an
option.

I drove across Canada with no doors on.

Mirror laws vary though. 'Most' places require an outside mirror, two
if you have the back full of cargo.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"ezeppelin@msn.com" wrote:
>
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?


Mike Romain 06-30-2004 11:29 AM

Re: doors off laws
 
My Jeep didn't come stock with doors.

I do have hard and clear plastic full doors for it, but they 'are' an
option.

I drove across Canada with no doors on.

Mirror laws vary though. 'Most' places require an outside mirror, two
if you have the back full of cargo.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"ezeppelin@msn.com" wrote:
>
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?


jbjeep 06-30-2004 10:43 PM

Re: doors off laws
 
I am really not sure, but I would reccomend that you have both a rear view mirror and
both outside side mirrors on. I think that some states can/may nab you on the mirror
laws with out them all. Yes, I would think that the safari doors would satisfy most
requirements, although I dont know of anyplace that says you cant go doorless. Seems
to me that those give just about as much protection as my lower soft doors do (other
than against water and mud flying in). Then again, what do I know...I've only had my
rig doorless in WA, OR, ID, CA, UT, NV and up in BC and no cop has given me the eye
(well, not including after the roll in Moab...but they didnt say anything - I think
they were laughing).



On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) wrote:

>>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
>>this msg previously
>>
>>
>>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
>>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
>>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
>>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
>>where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>>
>>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
>>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
>>doors) satisfy the law?



jbjeep 06-30-2004 10:43 PM

Re: doors off laws
 
I am really not sure, but I would reccomend that you have both a rear view mirror and
both outside side mirrors on. I think that some states can/may nab you on the mirror
laws with out them all. Yes, I would think that the safari doors would satisfy most
requirements, although I dont know of anyplace that says you cant go doorless. Seems
to me that those give just about as much protection as my lower soft doors do (other
than against water and mud flying in). Then again, what do I know...I've only had my
rig doorless in WA, OR, ID, CA, UT, NV and up in BC and no cop has given me the eye
(well, not including after the roll in Moab...but they didnt say anything - I think
they were laughing).



On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) wrote:

>>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
>>this msg previously
>>
>>
>>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
>>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
>>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
>>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
>>where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>>
>>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
>>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
>>doors) satisfy the law?



jbjeep 06-30-2004 10:43 PM

Re: doors off laws
 
I am really not sure, but I would reccomend that you have both a rear view mirror and
both outside side mirrors on. I think that some states can/may nab you on the mirror
laws with out them all. Yes, I would think that the safari doors would satisfy most
requirements, although I dont know of anyplace that says you cant go doorless. Seems
to me that those give just about as much protection as my lower soft doors do (other
than against water and mud flying in). Then again, what do I know...I've only had my
rig doorless in WA, OR, ID, CA, UT, NV and up in BC and no cop has given me the eye
(well, not including after the roll in Moab...but they didnt say anything - I think
they were laughing).



On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) wrote:

>>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
>>this msg previously
>>
>>
>>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
>>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
>>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
>>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
>>where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>>
>>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
>>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
>>doors) satisfy the law?



jbjeep 06-30-2004 10:43 PM

Re: doors off laws
 
I am really not sure, but I would reccomend that you have both a rear view mirror and
both outside side mirrors on. I think that some states can/may nab you on the mirror
laws with out them all. Yes, I would think that the safari doors would satisfy most
requirements, although I dont know of anyplace that says you cant go doorless. Seems
to me that those give just about as much protection as my lower soft doors do (other
than against water and mud flying in). Then again, what do I know...I've only had my
rig doorless in WA, OR, ID, CA, UT, NV and up in BC and no cop has given me the eye
(well, not including after the roll in Moab...but they didnt say anything - I think
they were laughing).



On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) wrote:

>>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
>>this msg previously
>>
>>
>>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
>>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
>>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
>>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
>>where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>>
>>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
>>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
>>doors) satisfy the law?



Dana Rohleder 07-01-2004 08:23 AM

Re: doors off laws
 
It is my understanding that some "progressive" states are beginning to
require doors regardless of whether they came on the vehicle originally. If
they have hinges, they would be required. HOWEVER, I don't know this for a
fact. I am basing my statement on recent posts of jeepers being pulled over
and issued citations for driving without doors on old CJ's. Now did these
citations hold up in court? I don't know. Even if a state doesn't require
doors, you always run the risk of being pulled over by a cop that is unclear
on the law (they aren't lawyers), or just a prick with an agenda. In these
cases, it doesn't really matter what the laws are - it gets sorted out in
the courts if they go so far as to issue a citation. Regarding Safari doors,
I would expect you would be less likely to be pulled over, but the above
would still apply.

I believe all states require a rearview mirror on the driver's door and on
the windshield. The passenger's door is required if your windshield mirror
is inoperative due to a restriced view (cargo, bad rear window, etc.).
--
Dana C. Rohleder
Port Kent, NY

<ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m...
> Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
> this msg previously
>
>
> I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without
> the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to
> drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in
> hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places
> where it's illegal, anyone got a list?
>
> Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from
> going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel
> doors) satisfy the law?





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