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doors off laws
Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send
this msg previously I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places where it's illegal, anyone got a list? Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
My Jeep didn't come stock with doors.
I do have hard and clear plastic full doors for it, but they 'are' an option. I drove across Canada with no doors on. Mirror laws vary though. 'Most' places require an outside mirror, two if you have the back full of cargo. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's "ezeppelin@msn.com" wrote: > > Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > this msg previously > > I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
My Jeep didn't come stock with doors.
I do have hard and clear plastic full doors for it, but they 'are' an option. I drove across Canada with no doors on. Mirror laws vary though. 'Most' places require an outside mirror, two if you have the back full of cargo. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's "ezeppelin@msn.com" wrote: > > Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > this msg previously > > I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
My Jeep didn't come stock with doors.
I do have hard and clear plastic full doors for it, but they 'are' an option. I drove across Canada with no doors on. Mirror laws vary though. 'Most' places require an outside mirror, two if you have the back full of cargo. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's "ezeppelin@msn.com" wrote: > > Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > this msg previously > > I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
My Jeep didn't come stock with doors.
I do have hard and clear plastic full doors for it, but they 'are' an option. I drove across Canada with no doors on. Mirror laws vary though. 'Most' places require an outside mirror, two if you have the back full of cargo. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's "ezeppelin@msn.com" wrote: > > Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > this msg previously > > I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
I am really not sure, but I would reccomend that you have both a rear view mirror and
both outside side mirrors on. I think that some states can/may nab you on the mirror laws with out them all. Yes, I would think that the safari doors would satisfy most requirements, although I dont know of anyplace that says you cant go doorless. Seems to me that those give just about as much protection as my lower soft doors do (other than against water and mud flying in). Then again, what do I know...I've only had my rig doorless in WA, OR, ID, CA, UT, NV and up in BC and no cop has given me the eye (well, not including after the roll in Moab...but they didnt say anything - I think they were laughing). On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) wrote: >>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send >>this msg previously >> >> >>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without >>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to >>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in >>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places >>where it's illegal, anyone got a list? >> >>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from >>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel >>doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
I am really not sure, but I would reccomend that you have both a rear view mirror and
both outside side mirrors on. I think that some states can/may nab you on the mirror laws with out them all. Yes, I would think that the safari doors would satisfy most requirements, although I dont know of anyplace that says you cant go doorless. Seems to me that those give just about as much protection as my lower soft doors do (other than against water and mud flying in). Then again, what do I know...I've only had my rig doorless in WA, OR, ID, CA, UT, NV and up in BC and no cop has given me the eye (well, not including after the roll in Moab...but they didnt say anything - I think they were laughing). On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) wrote: >>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send >>this msg previously >> >> >>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without >>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to >>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in >>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places >>where it's illegal, anyone got a list? >> >>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from >>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel >>doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
I am really not sure, but I would reccomend that you have both a rear view mirror and
both outside side mirrors on. I think that some states can/may nab you on the mirror laws with out them all. Yes, I would think that the safari doors would satisfy most requirements, although I dont know of anyplace that says you cant go doorless. Seems to me that those give just about as much protection as my lower soft doors do (other than against water and mud flying in). Then again, what do I know...I've only had my rig doorless in WA, OR, ID, CA, UT, NV and up in BC and no cop has given me the eye (well, not including after the roll in Moab...but they didnt say anything - I think they were laughing). On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) wrote: >>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send >>this msg previously >> >> >>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without >>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to >>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in >>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places >>where it's illegal, anyone got a list? >> >>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from >>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel >>doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
I am really not sure, but I would reccomend that you have both a rear view mirror and
both outside side mirrors on. I think that some states can/may nab you on the mirror laws with out them all. Yes, I would think that the safari doors would satisfy most requirements, although I dont know of anyplace that says you cant go doorless. Seems to me that those give just about as much protection as my lower soft doors do (other than against water and mud flying in). Then again, what do I know...I've only had my rig doorless in WA, OR, ID, CA, UT, NV and up in BC and no cop has given me the eye (well, not including after the roll in Moab...but they didnt say anything - I think they were laughing). On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) wrote: >>Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send >>this msg previously >> >> >>I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without >>the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to >>drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in >>hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places >>where it's illegal, anyone got a list? >> >>Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from >>going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel >>doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
It is my understanding that some "progressive" states are beginning to
require doors regardless of whether they came on the vehicle originally. If they have hinges, they would be required. HOWEVER, I don't know this for a fact. I am basing my statement on recent posts of jeepers being pulled over and issued citations for driving without doors on old CJ's. Now did these citations hold up in court? I don't know. Even if a state doesn't require doors, you always run the risk of being pulled over by a cop that is unclear on the law (they aren't lawyers), or just a prick with an agenda. In these cases, it doesn't really matter what the laws are - it gets sorted out in the courts if they go so far as to issue a citation. Regarding Safari doors, I would expect you would be less likely to be pulled over, but the above would still apply. I believe all states require a rearview mirror on the driver's door and on the windshield. The passenger's door is required if your windshield mirror is inoperative due to a restriced view (cargo, bad rear window, etc.). -- Dana C. Rohleder Port Kent, NY <ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m... > Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > this msg previously > > > I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
It is my understanding that some "progressive" states are beginning to
require doors regardless of whether they came on the vehicle originally. If they have hinges, they would be required. HOWEVER, I don't know this for a fact. I am basing my statement on recent posts of jeepers being pulled over and issued citations for driving without doors on old CJ's. Now did these citations hold up in court? I don't know. Even if a state doesn't require doors, you always run the risk of being pulled over by a cop that is unclear on the law (they aren't lawyers), or just a prick with an agenda. In these cases, it doesn't really matter what the laws are - it gets sorted out in the courts if they go so far as to issue a citation. Regarding Safari doors, I would expect you would be less likely to be pulled over, but the above would still apply. I believe all states require a rearview mirror on the driver's door and on the windshield. The passenger's door is required if your windshield mirror is inoperative due to a restriced view (cargo, bad rear window, etc.). -- Dana C. Rohleder Port Kent, NY <ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m... > Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > this msg previously > > > I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
It is my understanding that some "progressive" states are beginning to
require doors regardless of whether they came on the vehicle originally. If they have hinges, they would be required. HOWEVER, I don't know this for a fact. I am basing my statement on recent posts of jeepers being pulled over and issued citations for driving without doors on old CJ's. Now did these citations hold up in court? I don't know. Even if a state doesn't require doors, you always run the risk of being pulled over by a cop that is unclear on the law (they aren't lawyers), or just a prick with an agenda. In these cases, it doesn't really matter what the laws are - it gets sorted out in the courts if they go so far as to issue a citation. Regarding Safari doors, I would expect you would be less likely to be pulled over, but the above would still apply. I believe all states require a rearview mirror on the driver's door and on the windshield. The passenger's door is required if your windshield mirror is inoperative due to a restriced view (cargo, bad rear window, etc.). -- Dana C. Rohleder Port Kent, NY <ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m... > Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > this msg previously > > > I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
It is my understanding that some "progressive" states are beginning to
require doors regardless of whether they came on the vehicle originally. If they have hinges, they would be required. HOWEVER, I don't know this for a fact. I am basing my statement on recent posts of jeepers being pulled over and issued citations for driving without doors on old CJ's. Now did these citations hold up in court? I don't know. Even if a state doesn't require doors, you always run the risk of being pulled over by a cop that is unclear on the law (they aren't lawyers), or just a prick with an agenda. In these cases, it doesn't really matter what the laws are - it gets sorted out in the courts if they go so far as to issue a citation. Regarding Safari doors, I would expect you would be less likely to be pulled over, but the above would still apply. I believe all states require a rearview mirror on the driver's door and on the windshield. The passenger's door is required if your windshield mirror is inoperative due to a restriced view (cargo, bad rear window, etc.). -- Dana C. Rohleder Port Kent, NY <ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m... > Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > this msg previously > > > I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
As a general rule, most jurisdictions will honor the rules of the home
state, that is if your state allows you to drive without doors, you can get by in places where doors are needed. I would arm myself with a copy of the rules of my state to show anybody that thought you should have lunch with the judge. I wouldn't hesitate to drive my CJ across country without the doors. Well, I would hesitate to drive my CJ across country, but the doors are not my issue. <ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m... > Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > this msg previously > > > I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
As a general rule, most jurisdictions will honor the rules of the home
state, that is if your state allows you to drive without doors, you can get by in places where doors are needed. I would arm myself with a copy of the rules of my state to show anybody that thought you should have lunch with the judge. I wouldn't hesitate to drive my CJ across country without the doors. Well, I would hesitate to drive my CJ across country, but the doors are not my issue. <ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m... > Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > this msg previously > > > I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
As a general rule, most jurisdictions will honor the rules of the home
state, that is if your state allows you to drive without doors, you can get by in places where doors are needed. I would arm myself with a copy of the rules of my state to show anybody that thought you should have lunch with the judge. I wouldn't hesitate to drive my CJ across country without the doors. Well, I would hesitate to drive my CJ across country, but the doors are not my issue. <ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m... > Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > this msg previously > > > I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
As a general rule, most jurisdictions will honor the rules of the home
state, that is if your state allows you to drive without doors, you can get by in places where doors are needed. I would arm myself with a copy of the rules of my state to show anybody that thought you should have lunch with the judge. I wouldn't hesitate to drive my CJ across country without the doors. Well, I would hesitate to drive my CJ across country, but the doors are not my issue. <ezeppelin@msn.com> wrote in message news:fa415237.0406300618.9302507@posting.google.co m... > Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > this msg previously > > > I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors
(have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation bracket to make me legal here. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) wrote: >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send >this msg previously > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel >doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors
(have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation bracket to make me legal here. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) wrote: >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send >this msg previously > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel >doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors
(have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation bracket to make me legal here. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) wrote: >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send >this msg previously > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel >doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors
(have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation bracket to make me legal here. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) wrote: >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send >this msg previously > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel >doors) satisfy the law? |
Re: doors off laws
on a different note
how do you find the headers do they imptove the performance / gas mileage? thanks Jeff Ottawa 2001 tj "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:scfce0daqib3pq72tudet2bjt0nkmptvcr@4ax.com... > In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors > (have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, > yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one > side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation > bracket to make me legal here. > > Dave > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) > wrote: > > >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > >this msg previously > > > > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > >doors) satisfy the law? > |
Re: doors off laws
on a different note
how do you find the headers do they imptove the performance / gas mileage? thanks Jeff Ottawa 2001 tj "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:scfce0daqib3pq72tudet2bjt0nkmptvcr@4ax.com... > In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors > (have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, > yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one > side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation > bracket to make me legal here. > > Dave > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) > wrote: > > >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > >this msg previously > > > > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > >doors) satisfy the law? > |
Re: doors off laws
on a different note
how do you find the headers do they imptove the performance / gas mileage? thanks Jeff Ottawa 2001 tj "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:scfce0daqib3pq72tudet2bjt0nkmptvcr@4ax.com... > In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors > (have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, > yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one > side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation > bracket to make me legal here. > > Dave > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) > wrote: > > >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > >this msg previously > > > > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > >doors) satisfy the law? > |
Re: doors off laws
on a different note
how do you find the headers do they imptove the performance / gas mileage? thanks Jeff Ottawa 2001 tj "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:scfce0daqib3pq72tudet2bjt0nkmptvcr@4ax.com... > In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors > (have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, > yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one > side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation > bracket to make me legal here. > > Dave > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) > wrote: > > >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > >this msg previously > > > > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > >doors) satisfy the law? > |
Re: doors off laws
Enough that Daimler already put a bit of a header on your car:
http://www.1aautomotive.com/pics/plp/PLP1390094.jpg Real Header are tuned individual pipes 32" long going into two four inch collectors, something like these: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg Will create a cross flow vacuum near that of a supercharger. For half again better mileage and of course that's power. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Sailor wrote: > > on a different note > how do you find the headers do they imptove the performance / gas mileage? > > thanks > Jeff > Ottawa 2001 tj > > "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:scfce0daqib3pq72tudet2bjt0nkmptvcr@4ax.com... > > In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors > > (have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, > > yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one > > side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation > > bracket to make me legal here. > > > > Dave > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > > > On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) > > wrote: > > > > >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > > >this msg previously > > > > > > > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > > >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > > >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > > >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > > >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > > > > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > > >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > > >doors) satisfy the law? > > |
Re: doors off laws
Enough that Daimler already put a bit of a header on your car:
http://www.1aautomotive.com/pics/plp/PLP1390094.jpg Real Header are tuned individual pipes 32" long going into two four inch collectors, something like these: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg Will create a cross flow vacuum near that of a supercharger. For half again better mileage and of course that's power. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Sailor wrote: > > on a different note > how do you find the headers do they imptove the performance / gas mileage? > > thanks > Jeff > Ottawa 2001 tj > > "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:scfce0daqib3pq72tudet2bjt0nkmptvcr@4ax.com... > > In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors > > (have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, > > yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one > > side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation > > bracket to make me legal here. > > > > Dave > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > > > On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) > > wrote: > > > > >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > > >this msg previously > > > > > > > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > > >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > > >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > > >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > > >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > > > > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > > >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > > >doors) satisfy the law? > > |
Re: doors off laws
Enough that Daimler already put a bit of a header on your car:
http://www.1aautomotive.com/pics/plp/PLP1390094.jpg Real Header are tuned individual pipes 32" long going into two four inch collectors, something like these: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg Will create a cross flow vacuum near that of a supercharger. For half again better mileage and of course that's power. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Sailor wrote: > > on a different note > how do you find the headers do they imptove the performance / gas mileage? > > thanks > Jeff > Ottawa 2001 tj > > "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:scfce0daqib3pq72tudet2bjt0nkmptvcr@4ax.com... > > In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors > > (have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, > > yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one > > side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation > > bracket to make me legal here. > > > > Dave > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > > > On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) > > wrote: > > > > >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > > >this msg previously > > > > > > > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > > >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > > >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > > >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > > >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > > > > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > > >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > > >doors) satisfy the law? > > |
Re: doors off laws
Enough that Daimler already put a bit of a header on your car:
http://www.1aautomotive.com/pics/plp/PLP1390094.jpg Real Header are tuned individual pipes 32" long going into two four inch collectors, something like these: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg Will create a cross flow vacuum near that of a supercharger. For half again better mileage and of course that's power. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Sailor wrote: > > on a different note > how do you find the headers do they imptove the performance / gas mileage? > > thanks > Jeff > Ottawa 2001 tj > > "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:scfce0daqib3pq72tudet2bjt0nkmptvcr@4ax.com... > > In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors > > (have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, > > yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one > > side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation > > bracket to make me legal here. > > > > Dave > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > > > On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) > > wrote: > > > > >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > > >this msg previously > > > > > > > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > > >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > > >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > > >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > > >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > > > > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > > >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > > >doors) satisfy the law? > > |
Re: doors off laws
I bought a motorcycle mirror and jammed it into the hinge.
"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:scfce0daqib3pq72tudet2bjt0nkmptvcr@4ax.com... > In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors > (have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, > yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one > side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation > bracket to make me legal here. > > Dave > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) > wrote: > > >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > >this msg previously > > > > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > >doors) satisfy the law? > |
Re: doors off laws
I bought a motorcycle mirror and jammed it into the hinge.
"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:scfce0daqib3pq72tudet2bjt0nkmptvcr@4ax.com... > In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors > (have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, > yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one > side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation > bracket to make me legal here. > > Dave > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) > wrote: > > >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > >this msg previously > > > > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > >doors) satisfy the law? > |
Re: doors off laws
I bought a motorcycle mirror and jammed it into the hinge.
"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:scfce0daqib3pq72tudet2bjt0nkmptvcr@4ax.com... > In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors > (have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, > yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one > side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation > bracket to make me legal here. > > Dave > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) > wrote: > > >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > >this msg previously > > > > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > >doors) satisfy the law? > |
Re: doors off laws
I bought a motorcycle mirror and jammed it into the hinge.
"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message news:scfce0daqib3pq72tudet2bjt0nkmptvcr@4ax.com... > In WA state, you are required to have at least two rear view mirrors > (have the ticket to prove it unfortunately). I think for most states, > yer fine as long as you have your standard rear view mirror, and one > side mirror. I ended up installing a driver's side mirror relocation > bracket to make me legal here. > > Dave > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > On 30 Jun 2004 07:18:08 -0700, ezeppelin@msn.com (ezeppelin@msn.com) > wrote: > > >Sorry if this is a repeat - my PC crashed while attempting to send > >this msg previously > > > > > >I am about to make a cross country jeep trip and want to go without > >the doors. Does anyone know if it's legal in all 50 states + DC to > >drive this way, or are there some jurisdictions where you'll get in > >hot water for being on-road with no doors? If there are some places > >where it's illegal, anyone got a list? > > > >Follow up question: If there are jurisdictions prohibiting you from > >going doorless, do "safari doors" (those very minimal tubular steel > >doors) satisfy the law? > |
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