Doors - on or off??
05-09-2005, 12:00 PM
#11
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Re: Doors - on or off??
On 9 May 2005 07:28:51 -0700, rmcaskey@comcast.net wrote:
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
The instructions for my TJ say not to go over ~20mph with the
windshield down.
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
You need to meet the requirements for mirrors, but the doors are
allowed to be off. I recommend wearing your seat belt, especially
while the doors are off. I suspect Chrysler is more worried about
liability with the reduced protection offered by removing the doors
than anything else.
-D
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> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
The instructions for my TJ say not to go over ~20mph with the
windshield down.
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
You need to meet the requirements for mirrors, but the doors are
allowed to be off. I recommend wearing your seat belt, especially
while the doors are off. I suspect Chrysler is more worried about
liability with the reduced protection offered by removing the doors
than anything else.
-D
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05-09-2005, 12:00 PM
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Re: Doors - on or off??
On 9 May 2005 07:28:51 -0700, rmcaskey@comcast.net wrote:
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
The instructions for my TJ say not to go over ~20mph with the
windshield down.
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
You need to meet the requirements for mirrors, but the doors are
allowed to be off. I recommend wearing your seat belt, especially
while the doors are off. I suspect Chrysler is more worried about
liability with the reduced protection offered by removing the doors
than anything else.
-D
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> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
The instructions for my TJ say not to go over ~20mph with the
windshield down.
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
You need to meet the requirements for mirrors, but the doors are
allowed to be off. I recommend wearing your seat belt, especially
while the doors are off. I suspect Chrysler is more worried about
liability with the reduced protection offered by removing the doors
than anything else.
-D
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05-09-2005, 12:00 PM
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Re: Doors - on or off??
On 9 May 2005 07:28:51 -0700, rmcaskey@comcast.net wrote:
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
The instructions for my TJ say not to go over ~20mph with the
windshield down.
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
You need to meet the requirements for mirrors, but the doors are
allowed to be off. I recommend wearing your seat belt, especially
while the doors are off. I suspect Chrysler is more worried about
liability with the reduced protection offered by removing the doors
than anything else.
-D
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> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
The instructions for my TJ say not to go over ~20mph with the
windshield down.
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
You need to meet the requirements for mirrors, but the doors are
allowed to be off. I recommend wearing your seat belt, especially
while the doors are off. I suspect Chrysler is more worried about
liability with the reduced protection offered by removing the doors
than anything else.
-D
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05-09-2005, 12:08 PM
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Re: Doors - on or off??
I see no difference between driving with the doors off and driving with the
windows rolled down on any other vehicle. The first day I pulled the top and
doors off my '88 YJ and cruised on the highway I got hit on the cheek with a
stone from a passing semi. Hurt like hell but have been without incident
since then, including many offroad adventures with no top/doors as well as
driving 60-80km in the city with no windshield. It's a risk ...but it's one
reason I bought the Jeep.
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
windows rolled down on any other vehicle. The first day I pulled the top and
doors off my '88 YJ and cruised on the highway I got hit on the cheek with a
stone from a passing semi. Hurt like hell but have been without incident
since then, including many offroad adventures with no top/doors as well as
driving 60-80km in the city with no windshield. It's a risk ...but it's one
reason I bought the Jeep.
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
05-09-2005, 12:08 PM
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Re: Doors - on or off??
I see no difference between driving with the doors off and driving with the
windows rolled down on any other vehicle. The first day I pulled the top and
doors off my '88 YJ and cruised on the highway I got hit on the cheek with a
stone from a passing semi. Hurt like hell but have been without incident
since then, including many offroad adventures with no top/doors as well as
driving 60-80km in the city with no windshield. It's a risk ...but it's one
reason I bought the Jeep.
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
windows rolled down on any other vehicle. The first day I pulled the top and
doors off my '88 YJ and cruised on the highway I got hit on the cheek with a
stone from a passing semi. Hurt like hell but have been without incident
since then, including many offroad adventures with no top/doors as well as
driving 60-80km in the city with no windshield. It's a risk ...but it's one
reason I bought the Jeep.
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1115648930.966494.322620@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
05-09-2005, 12:08 PM
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Re: Doors - on or off??
I see no difference between driving with the doors off and driving with the
windows rolled down on any other vehicle. The first day I pulled the top and
doors off my '88 YJ and cruised on the highway I got hit on the cheek with a
stone from a passing semi. Hurt like hell but have been without incident
since then, including many offroad adventures with no top/doors as well as
driving 60-80km in the city with no windshield. It's a risk ...but it's one
reason I bought the Jeep.
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1115648930.966494.322620@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
windows rolled down on any other vehicle. The first day I pulled the top and
doors off my '88 YJ and cruised on the highway I got hit on the cheek with a
stone from a passing semi. Hurt like hell but have been without incident
since then, including many offroad adventures with no top/doors as well as
driving 60-80km in the city with no windshield. It's a risk ...but it's one
reason I bought the Jeep.
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1115648930.966494.322620@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
05-09-2005, 12:08 PM
#17
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Re: Doors - on or off??
I see no difference between driving with the doors off and driving with the
windows rolled down on any other vehicle. The first day I pulled the top and
doors off my '88 YJ and cruised on the highway I got hit on the cheek with a
stone from a passing semi. Hurt like hell but have been without incident
since then, including many offroad adventures with no top/doors as well as
driving 60-80km in the city with no windshield. It's a risk ...but it's one
reason I bought the Jeep.
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1115648930.966494.322620@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
windows rolled down on any other vehicle. The first day I pulled the top and
doors off my '88 YJ and cruised on the highway I got hit on the cheek with a
stone from a passing semi. Hurt like hell but have been without incident
since then, including many offroad adventures with no top/doors as well as
driving 60-80km in the city with no windshield. It's a risk ...but it's one
reason I bought the Jeep.
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1115648930.966494.322620@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
05-09-2005, 12:34 PM
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Re: Doors - on or off??
Hell yeah! Take the doors off! I love having mine off!
However, a couple warnings:
1 - Be prepared for about 10 times more wind circulating through the
jeep. Anything not securely stowed will be on the pavement.
2 - I would recommend getting some sport handles so you have something
to grab on when taking turns. Anyone who rides with you will likely
freak out as well.
But, I don't think you are really doing your jeep justice unless you
have the doors off.
On 9 May 2005 07:28:51 -0700, "rmcaskey@comcast.net"
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote:
>i'm confused.
>
>all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
>doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
>having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
>warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
>stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
>can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
>but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
>sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
>is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
>or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
>martin caskey
>millers island, maryland
However, a couple warnings:
1 - Be prepared for about 10 times more wind circulating through the
jeep. Anything not securely stowed will be on the pavement.
2 - I would recommend getting some sport handles so you have something
to grab on when taking turns. Anyone who rides with you will likely
freak out as well.
But, I don't think you are really doing your jeep justice unless you
have the doors off.
On 9 May 2005 07:28:51 -0700, "rmcaskey@comcast.net"
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote:
>i'm confused.
>
>all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
>doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
>having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
>warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
>stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
>can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
>but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
>sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
>is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
>or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
>martin caskey
>millers island, maryland
05-09-2005, 12:34 PM
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Re: Doors - on or off??
Hell yeah! Take the doors off! I love having mine off!
However, a couple warnings:
1 - Be prepared for about 10 times more wind circulating through the
jeep. Anything not securely stowed will be on the pavement.
2 - I would recommend getting some sport handles so you have something
to grab on when taking turns. Anyone who rides with you will likely
freak out as well.
But, I don't think you are really doing your jeep justice unless you
have the doors off.
On 9 May 2005 07:28:51 -0700, "rmcaskey@comcast.net"
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote:
>i'm confused.
>
>all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
>doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
>having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
>warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
>stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
>can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
>but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
>sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
>is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
>or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
>martin caskey
>millers island, maryland
However, a couple warnings:
1 - Be prepared for about 10 times more wind circulating through the
jeep. Anything not securely stowed will be on the pavement.
2 - I would recommend getting some sport handles so you have something
to grab on when taking turns. Anyone who rides with you will likely
freak out as well.
But, I don't think you are really doing your jeep justice unless you
have the doors off.
On 9 May 2005 07:28:51 -0700, "rmcaskey@comcast.net"
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote:
>i'm confused.
>
>all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
>doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
>having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
>warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
>stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
>can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
>but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
>sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
>is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
>or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
>martin caskey
>millers island, maryland
05-09-2005, 12:34 PM
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Re: Doors - on or off??
Hell yeah! Take the doors off! I love having mine off!
However, a couple warnings:
1 - Be prepared for about 10 times more wind circulating through the
jeep. Anything not securely stowed will be on the pavement.
2 - I would recommend getting some sport handles so you have something
to grab on when taking turns. Anyone who rides with you will likely
freak out as well.
But, I don't think you are really doing your jeep justice unless you
have the doors off.
On 9 May 2005 07:28:51 -0700, "rmcaskey@comcast.net"
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote:
>i'm confused.
>
>all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
>doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
>having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
>warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
>stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
>can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
>but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
>sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
>is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
>or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
>martin caskey
>millers island, maryland
However, a couple warnings:
1 - Be prepared for about 10 times more wind circulating through the
jeep. Anything not securely stowed will be on the pavement.
2 - I would recommend getting some sport handles so you have something
to grab on when taking turns. Anyone who rides with you will likely
freak out as well.
But, I don't think you are really doing your jeep justice unless you
have the doors off.
On 9 May 2005 07:28:51 -0700, "rmcaskey@comcast.net"
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote:
>i'm confused.
>
>all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
>doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
>having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
>warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
>stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
>can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
>but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
>sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
>is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
>or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
>martin caskey
>millers island, maryland