Doors - on or off??
05-09-2005, 10:28 AM
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Doors - on or off??
i'm confused.
all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
martin caskey
millers island, maryland
all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
martin caskey
millers island, maryland
05-09-2005, 10:38 AM
#2
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Re: Doors - on or off??
Hi Martin,
I am not young and immortal, but my 79 CJ5 (factory) didn't even come
with doors.
I have some doors somewhere though....
Ron
rmcaskey@comcast.net wrote:
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
I am not young and immortal, but my 79 CJ5 (factory) didn't even come
with doors.
I have some doors somewhere though....
Ron
rmcaskey@comcast.net wrote:
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
05-09-2005, 10:38 AM
#3
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Re: Doors - on or off??
Hi Martin,
I am not young and immortal, but my 79 CJ5 (factory) didn't even come
with doors.
I have some doors somewhere though....
Ron
rmcaskey@comcast.net wrote:
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
I am not young and immortal, but my 79 CJ5 (factory) didn't even come
with doors.
I have some doors somewhere though....
Ron
rmcaskey@comcast.net wrote:
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
05-09-2005, 10:38 AM
#4
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Re: Doors - on or off??
Hi Martin,
I am not young and immortal, but my 79 CJ5 (factory) didn't even come
with doors.
I have some doors somewhere though....
Ron
rmcaskey@comcast.net wrote:
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
I am not young and immortal, but my 79 CJ5 (factory) didn't even come
with doors.
I have some doors somewhere though....
Ron
rmcaskey@comcast.net wrote:
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
05-09-2005, 10:38 AM
#5
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Re: Doors - on or off??
Hi Martin,
I am not young and immortal, but my 79 CJ5 (factory) didn't even come
with doors.
I have some doors somewhere though....
Ron
rmcaskey@comcast.net wrote:
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
I am not young and immortal, but my 79 CJ5 (factory) didn't even come
with doors.
I have some doors somewhere though....
Ron
rmcaskey@comcast.net wrote:
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
05-09-2005, 10:38 AM
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Re: Doors - on or off??
It is something to be done at your own risk. That being said, my top and
doors are off, and have been since Saturday due to the great weather we are
having. Have to work tomorrow, plus rain in the forcast so they will be
going back on.
In most states it is legal to have doors off if you have a rear view mirror,
most states say you must have 1 rear facing mirror, and don't specify where
it must be located.
Patrick
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
doors are off, and have been since Saturday due to the great weather we are
having. Have to work tomorrow, plus rain in the forcast so they will be
going back on.
In most states it is legal to have doors off if you have a rear view mirror,
most states say you must have 1 rear facing mirror, and don't specify where
it must be located.
Patrick
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1115648930.966494.322620@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
05-09-2005, 10:38 AM
#7
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Re: Doors - on or off??
It is something to be done at your own risk. That being said, my top and
doors are off, and have been since Saturday due to the great weather we are
having. Have to work tomorrow, plus rain in the forcast so they will be
going back on.
In most states it is legal to have doors off if you have a rear view mirror,
most states say you must have 1 rear facing mirror, and don't specify where
it must be located.
Patrick
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1115648930.966494.322620@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
doors are off, and have been since Saturday due to the great weather we are
having. Have to work tomorrow, plus rain in the forcast so they will be
going back on.
In most states it is legal to have doors off if you have a rear view mirror,
most states say you must have 1 rear facing mirror, and don't specify where
it must be located.
Patrick
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1115648930.966494.322620@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
05-09-2005, 10:38 AM
#8
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Re: Doors - on or off??
It is something to be done at your own risk. That being said, my top and
doors are off, and have been since Saturday due to the great weather we are
having. Have to work tomorrow, plus rain in the forcast so they will be
going back on.
In most states it is legal to have doors off if you have a rear view mirror,
most states say you must have 1 rear facing mirror, and don't specify where
it must be located.
Patrick
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1115648930.966494.322620@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
doors are off, and have been since Saturday due to the great weather we are
having. Have to work tomorrow, plus rain in the forcast so they will be
going back on.
In most states it is legal to have doors off if you have a rear view mirror,
most states say you must have 1 rear facing mirror, and don't specify where
it must be located.
Patrick
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1115648930.966494.322620@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
05-09-2005, 10:38 AM
#9
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Re: Doors - on or off??
It is something to be done at your own risk. That being said, my top and
doors are off, and have been since Saturday due to the great weather we are
having. Have to work tomorrow, plus rain in the forcast so they will be
going back on.
In most states it is legal to have doors off if you have a rear view mirror,
most states say you must have 1 rear facing mirror, and don't specify where
it must be located.
Patrick
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1115648930.966494.322620@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
doors are off, and have been since Saturday due to the great weather we are
having. Have to work tomorrow, plus rain in the forcast so they will be
going back on.
In most states it is legal to have doors off if you have a rear view mirror,
most states say you must have 1 rear facing mirror, and don't specify where
it must be located.
Patrick
<rmcaskey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1115648930.966494.322620@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
>
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
>
05-09-2005, 12:00 PM
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Re: Doors - on or off??
On 9 May 2005 07:28:51 -0700, rmcaskey@comcast.net wrote:
> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
The instructions for my TJ say not to go over ~20mph with the
windshield down.
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
You need to meet the requirements for mirrors, but the doors are
allowed to be off. I recommend wearing your seat belt, especially
while the doors are off. I suspect Chrysler is more worried about
liability with the reduced protection offered by removing the doors
than anything else.
-D
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> i'm confused.
>
> all the instructions for my wrangler unlimited refer to removal of the
> doors (and folding the windshield down) being for "off-road only".
> having spent 14 years in the army, i fully support the windshield
> warning. i can tell you with some degree of authority that a little
> stone can leave a big mark even when your only going 35 or 40. if it
> can chip your windshield, it can damn sure put a hurt on your forehead.
The instructions for my TJ say not to go over ~20mph with the
windshield down.
> but as i cruised around yesterday, feeling quite sporty with the
> sunrider roof open, i saw at least 6 wranglers with the doors off.
>
> is a middle aged, overweight, grey-haired guy allowed to do this also,
> or is this something reserved for the young and immortal??
You need to meet the requirements for mirrors, but the doors are
allowed to be off. I recommend wearing your seat belt, especially
while the doors are off. I suspect Chrysler is more worried about
liability with the reduced protection offered by removing the doors
than anything else.
-D
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