DOH brakes!
09-06-2007, 06:11 PM
#41
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Re: DOH brakes!
twaldron wrote:
> DougW wrote:
> > Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons
> back in.
>> Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that
>> it was one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>
>> Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>> to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>> too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>
>
> I just push the pistons back in and put the new pads on. Why do you
> open up the system? Just the way I've always done discs, never had a
> problem.
It's one way of doing the job, you basically push the old fluid out
and refill from the reservoir instead of having to suction off fluid
when you push the pistons back in. It's much easier to push the piston
back in also. Your basic hand pressure is enough.
--
DougW
> DougW wrote:
> > Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons
> back in.
>> Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that
>> it was one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>
>> Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>> to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>> too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>
>
> I just push the pistons back in and put the new pads on. Why do you
> open up the system? Just the way I've always done discs, never had a
> problem.
It's one way of doing the job, you basically push the old fluid out
and refill from the reservoir instead of having to suction off fluid
when you push the pistons back in. It's much easier to push the piston
back in also. Your basic hand pressure is enough.
--
DougW
09-06-2007, 06:20 PM
#42
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Re: DOH brakes!
Zelix wrote:
> "c" wrote...
>> Zelix wrote:
>>> "DougW" wrote ...
>>>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too
>>>> long.
>>> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was
>>> the most painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to
>>> get those little springs on.
>>
>>
>> You did have the brake spring pliers, right?
>>
>> http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML
Heh.. I have one of those but couldn't find it. :(
I just used vice grips.
> Yes, evidently we didn't know how to use them properly. It was shear
> misery getting that last spring on.
I use the hook to walk the old spring off. Then the C notched
handle to put the new springs on. Just hook the spring over the
handle, hook the C over the big pin, then pry up till the
spring slides into place. Easier to show than to type. :/
The Cup is used to take the spring clips off the "nails" and to
install them back on. I use a purpose built driver for that.
--
DougW
> "c" wrote...
>> Zelix wrote:
>>> "DougW" wrote ...
>>>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too
>>>> long.
>>> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was
>>> the most painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to
>>> get those little springs on.
>>
>>
>> You did have the brake spring pliers, right?
>>
>> http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML
Heh.. I have one of those but couldn't find it. :(
I just used vice grips.
> Yes, evidently we didn't know how to use them properly. It was shear
> misery getting that last spring on.
I use the hook to walk the old spring off. Then the C notched
handle to put the new springs on. Just hook the spring over the
handle, hook the C over the big pin, then pry up till the
spring slides into place. Easier to show than to type. :/
The Cup is used to take the spring clips off the "nails" and to
install them back on. I use a purpose built driver for that.
--
DougW
09-06-2007, 06:20 PM
#43
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Re: DOH brakes!
Zelix wrote:
> "c" wrote...
>> Zelix wrote:
>>> "DougW" wrote ...
>>>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too
>>>> long.
>>> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was
>>> the most painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to
>>> get those little springs on.
>>
>>
>> You did have the brake spring pliers, right?
>>
>> http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML
Heh.. I have one of those but couldn't find it. :(
I just used vice grips.
> Yes, evidently we didn't know how to use them properly. It was shear
> misery getting that last spring on.
I use the hook to walk the old spring off. Then the C notched
handle to put the new springs on. Just hook the spring over the
handle, hook the C over the big pin, then pry up till the
spring slides into place. Easier to show than to type. :/
The Cup is used to take the spring clips off the "nails" and to
install them back on. I use a purpose built driver for that.
--
DougW
> "c" wrote...
>> Zelix wrote:
>>> "DougW" wrote ...
>>>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too
>>>> long.
>>> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was
>>> the most painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to
>>> get those little springs on.
>>
>>
>> You did have the brake spring pliers, right?
>>
>> http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML
Heh.. I have one of those but couldn't find it. :(
I just used vice grips.
> Yes, evidently we didn't know how to use them properly. It was shear
> misery getting that last spring on.
I use the hook to walk the old spring off. Then the C notched
handle to put the new springs on. Just hook the spring over the
handle, hook the C over the big pin, then pry up till the
spring slides into place. Easier to show than to type. :/
The Cup is used to take the spring clips off the "nails" and to
install them back on. I use a purpose built driver for that.
--
DougW
09-06-2007, 06:20 PM
#44
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Re: DOH brakes!
Zelix wrote:
> "c" wrote...
>> Zelix wrote:
>>> "DougW" wrote ...
>>>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too
>>>> long.
>>> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was
>>> the most painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to
>>> get those little springs on.
>>
>>
>> You did have the brake spring pliers, right?
>>
>> http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML
Heh.. I have one of those but couldn't find it. :(
I just used vice grips.
> Yes, evidently we didn't know how to use them properly. It was shear
> misery getting that last spring on.
I use the hook to walk the old spring off. Then the C notched
handle to put the new springs on. Just hook the spring over the
handle, hook the C over the big pin, then pry up till the
spring slides into place. Easier to show than to type. :/
The Cup is used to take the spring clips off the "nails" and to
install them back on. I use a purpose built driver for that.
--
DougW
> "c" wrote...
>> Zelix wrote:
>>> "DougW" wrote ...
>>>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too
>>>> long.
>>> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was
>>> the most painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to
>>> get those little springs on.
>>
>>
>> You did have the brake spring pliers, right?
>>
>> http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML
Heh.. I have one of those but couldn't find it. :(
I just used vice grips.
> Yes, evidently we didn't know how to use them properly. It was shear
> misery getting that last spring on.
I use the hook to walk the old spring off. Then the C notched
handle to put the new springs on. Just hook the spring over the
handle, hook the C over the big pin, then pry up till the
spring slides into place. Easier to show than to type. :/
The Cup is used to take the spring clips off the "nails" and to
install them back on. I use a purpose built driver for that.
--
DougW
09-06-2007, 06:20 PM
#45
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Re: DOH brakes!
Zelix wrote:
> "c" wrote...
>> Zelix wrote:
>>> "DougW" wrote ...
>>>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too
>>>> long.
>>> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was
>>> the most painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to
>>> get those little springs on.
>>
>>
>> You did have the brake spring pliers, right?
>>
>> http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML
Heh.. I have one of those but couldn't find it. :(
I just used vice grips.
> Yes, evidently we didn't know how to use them properly. It was shear
> misery getting that last spring on.
I use the hook to walk the old spring off. Then the C notched
handle to put the new springs on. Just hook the spring over the
handle, hook the C over the big pin, then pry up till the
spring slides into place. Easier to show than to type. :/
The Cup is used to take the spring clips off the "nails" and to
install them back on. I use a purpose built driver for that.
--
DougW
> "c" wrote...
>> Zelix wrote:
>>> "DougW" wrote ...
>>>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too
>>>> long.
>>> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was
>>> the most painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to
>>> get those little springs on.
>>
>>
>> You did have the brake spring pliers, right?
>>
>> http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML
Heh.. I have one of those but couldn't find it. :(
I just used vice grips.
> Yes, evidently we didn't know how to use them properly. It was shear
> misery getting that last spring on.
I use the hook to walk the old spring off. Then the C notched
handle to put the new springs on. Just hook the spring over the
handle, hook the C over the big pin, then pry up till the
spring slides into place. Easier to show than to type. :/
The Cup is used to take the spring clips off the "nails" and to
install them back on. I use a purpose built driver for that.
--
DougW
09-06-2007, 06:46 PM
#46
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Re: DOH brakes!
DougW wrote:
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>DougW wrote:
>> > Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons
>>back in.
>>
>>>Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that
>>>it was one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>>
>>>Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>>>to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>>>too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>>
>>
>>I just push the pistons back in and put the new pads on. Why do you
>>open up the system? Just the way I've always done discs, never had a
>>problem.
>
>
> It's one way of doing the job, you basically push the old fluid out
> and refill from the reservoir instead of having to suction off fluid
> when you push the pistons back in. It's much easier to push the piston
> back in also. Your basic hand pressure is enough.
>
Ok. I don't touch the master cylinder at all and just push the pistons
back in, leaving the system closed throughout the job. No muss, no fuss.
tw
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>DougW wrote:
>> > Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons
>>back in.
>>
>>>Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that
>>>it was one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>>
>>>Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>>>to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>>>too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>>
>>
>>I just push the pistons back in and put the new pads on. Why do you
>>open up the system? Just the way I've always done discs, never had a
>>problem.
>
>
> It's one way of doing the job, you basically push the old fluid out
> and refill from the reservoir instead of having to suction off fluid
> when you push the pistons back in. It's much easier to push the piston
> back in also. Your basic hand pressure is enough.
>
Ok. I don't touch the master cylinder at all and just push the pistons
back in, leaving the system closed throughout the job. No muss, no fuss.
tw
09-06-2007, 06:46 PM
#47
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Re: DOH brakes!
DougW wrote:
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>DougW wrote:
>> > Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons
>>back in.
>>
>>>Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that
>>>it was one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>>
>>>Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>>>to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>>>too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>>
>>
>>I just push the pistons back in and put the new pads on. Why do you
>>open up the system? Just the way I've always done discs, never had a
>>problem.
>
>
> It's one way of doing the job, you basically push the old fluid out
> and refill from the reservoir instead of having to suction off fluid
> when you push the pistons back in. It's much easier to push the piston
> back in also. Your basic hand pressure is enough.
>
Ok. I don't touch the master cylinder at all and just push the pistons
back in, leaving the system closed throughout the job. No muss, no fuss.
tw
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>DougW wrote:
>> > Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons
>>back in.
>>
>>>Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that
>>>it was one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>>
>>>Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>>>to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>>>too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>>
>>
>>I just push the pistons back in and put the new pads on. Why do you
>>open up the system? Just the way I've always done discs, never had a
>>problem.
>
>
> It's one way of doing the job, you basically push the old fluid out
> and refill from the reservoir instead of having to suction off fluid
> when you push the pistons back in. It's much easier to push the piston
> back in also. Your basic hand pressure is enough.
>
Ok. I don't touch the master cylinder at all and just push the pistons
back in, leaving the system closed throughout the job. No muss, no fuss.
tw
09-06-2007, 06:46 PM
#48
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Re: DOH brakes!
DougW wrote:
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>DougW wrote:
>> > Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons
>>back in.
>>
>>>Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that
>>>it was one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>>
>>>Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>>>to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>>>too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>>
>>
>>I just push the pistons back in and put the new pads on. Why do you
>>open up the system? Just the way I've always done discs, never had a
>>problem.
>
>
> It's one way of doing the job, you basically push the old fluid out
> and refill from the reservoir instead of having to suction off fluid
> when you push the pistons back in. It's much easier to push the piston
> back in also. Your basic hand pressure is enough.
>
Ok. I don't touch the master cylinder at all and just push the pistons
back in, leaving the system closed throughout the job. No muss, no fuss.
tw
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>DougW wrote:
>> > Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons
>>back in.
>>
>>>Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that
>>>it was one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>>
>>>Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>>>to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>>>too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>>
>>
>>I just push the pistons back in and put the new pads on. Why do you
>>open up the system? Just the way I've always done discs, never had a
>>problem.
>
>
> It's one way of doing the job, you basically push the old fluid out
> and refill from the reservoir instead of having to suction off fluid
> when you push the pistons back in. It's much easier to push the piston
> back in also. Your basic hand pressure is enough.
>
Ok. I don't touch the master cylinder at all and just push the pistons
back in, leaving the system closed throughout the job. No muss, no fuss.
tw
09-06-2007, 06:46 PM
#49
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Re: DOH brakes!
DougW wrote:
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>DougW wrote:
>> > Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons
>>back in.
>>
>>>Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that
>>>it was one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>>
>>>Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>>>to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>>>too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>>
>>
>>I just push the pistons back in and put the new pads on. Why do you
>>open up the system? Just the way I've always done discs, never had a
>>problem.
>
>
> It's one way of doing the job, you basically push the old fluid out
> and refill from the reservoir instead of having to suction off fluid
> when you push the pistons back in. It's much easier to push the piston
> back in also. Your basic hand pressure is enough.
>
Ok. I don't touch the master cylinder at all and just push the pistons
back in, leaving the system closed throughout the job. No muss, no fuss.
tw
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>DougW wrote:
>> > Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons
>>back in.
>>
>>>Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that
>>>it was one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>>
>>>Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>>>to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>>>too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>>
>>
>>I just push the pistons back in and put the new pads on. Why do you
>>open up the system? Just the way I've always done discs, never had a
>>problem.
>
>
> It's one way of doing the job, you basically push the old fluid out
> and refill from the reservoir instead of having to suction off fluid
> when you push the pistons back in. It's much easier to push the piston
> back in also. Your basic hand pressure is enough.
>
Ok. I don't touch the master cylinder at all and just push the pistons
back in, leaving the system closed throughout the job. No muss, no fuss.
tw
09-06-2007, 06:59 PM
#50
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Re: DOH brakes!
"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> twaldron wrote:
>> DougW wrote:
>> > Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons
>> back in.
>>> Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that
>>> it was one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>>
>>> Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>>> to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>>> too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>>
>>
>> I just push the pistons back in and put the new pads on. Why do you
>> open up the system? Just the way I've always done discs, never had a
>> problem.
>
> It's one way of doing the job, you basically push the old fluid out
> and refill from the reservoir instead of having to suction off fluid
> when you push the pistons back in. It's much easier to push the piston
> back in also. Your basic hand pressure is enough.
>
> --
> DougW
Don't do that on an ABS system, you'll be sorry sooner or later, when a spec
of crud gets into the valving.
Spdloader
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