Dodge Axle Swap: Considerations???
11-26-2006, 11:48 AM
#21
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Re: Dodge Axle Swap: Considerations???
What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
experience.)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power brakes?
>
> I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
>
> I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a little
> screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> brake lines.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> James Drinkwater wrote:
> >
> > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30 needs
to be
> > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints, ball
> > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > Drink
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like Jeep).
But,
> > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause the
> > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > >
> > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > >
> > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a tie
rod
> > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over steering.
At
> > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
conversion.
> > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other knuckle
and
> > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie rod
end,
> > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a regular
tie
> > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > >> difficult
> > >> for me.
> > >
> > > Now I have a headache.
> > >
> > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
just
> > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be cut,
> > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to get
> > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > >
> > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a 30
year
> > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all 'round"
that
> > > as
> > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to change
it?
> > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> > >
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
experience.)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power brakes?
>
> I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
>
> I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a little
> screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> brake lines.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> James Drinkwater wrote:
> >
> > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30 needs
to be
> > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints, ball
> > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > Drink
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like Jeep).
But,
> > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause the
> > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > >
> > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > >
> > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a tie
rod
> > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over steering.
At
> > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
conversion.
> > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other knuckle
and
> > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie rod
end,
> > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a regular
tie
> > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > >> difficult
> > >> for me.
> > >
> > > Now I have a headache.
> > >
> > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
just
> > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be cut,
> > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to get
> > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > >
> > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a 30
year
> > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all 'round"
that
> > > as
> > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to change
it?
> > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> > >
--
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11-26-2006, 11:48 AM
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Re: Dodge Axle Swap: Considerations???
What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
experience.)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power brakes?
>
> I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
>
> I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a little
> screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> brake lines.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> James Drinkwater wrote:
> >
> > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30 needs
to be
> > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints, ball
> > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > Drink
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like Jeep).
But,
> > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause the
> > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > >
> > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > >
> > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a tie
rod
> > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over steering.
At
> > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
conversion.
> > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other knuckle
and
> > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie rod
end,
> > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a regular
tie
> > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > >> difficult
> > >> for me.
> > >
> > > Now I have a headache.
> > >
> > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
just
> > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be cut,
> > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to get
> > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > >
> > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a 30
year
> > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all 'round"
that
> > > as
> > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to change
it?
> > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> > >
--
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Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
experience.)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power brakes?
>
> I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
>
> I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a little
> screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> brake lines.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> James Drinkwater wrote:
> >
> > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30 needs
to be
> > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints, ball
> > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > Drink
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like Jeep).
But,
> > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause the
> > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > >
> > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > >
> > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a tie
rod
> > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over steering.
At
> > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
conversion.
> > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other knuckle
and
> > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie rod
end,
> > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a regular
tie
> > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > >> difficult
> > >> for me.
> > >
> > > Now I have a headache.
> > >
> > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
just
> > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be cut,
> > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to get
> > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > >
> > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a 30
year
> > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all 'round"
that
> > > as
> > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to change
it?
> > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> > >
--
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11-26-2006, 11:52 AM
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Re: Dodge Axle Swap: Considerations???
in my experience also. Plus as they start to stretch, it requires more
pressure to get the vehicle to stop.
Dave.
"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:4569b50c$0$21187$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> experience.)
>
> Earle
pressure to get the vehicle to stop.
Dave.
"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:4569b50c$0$21187$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> experience.)
>
> Earle
11-26-2006, 11:52 AM
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Re: Dodge Axle Swap: Considerations???
in my experience also. Plus as they start to stretch, it requires more
pressure to get the vehicle to stop.
Dave.
"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:4569b50c$0$21187$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> experience.)
>
> Earle
pressure to get the vehicle to stop.
Dave.
"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:4569b50c$0$21187$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> experience.)
>
> Earle
11-26-2006, 11:52 AM
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Re: Dodge Axle Swap: Considerations???
in my experience also. Plus as they start to stretch, it requires more
pressure to get the vehicle to stop.
Dave.
"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:4569b50c$0$21187$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> experience.)
>
> Earle
pressure to get the vehicle to stop.
Dave.
"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:4569b50c$0$21187$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> experience.)
>
> Earle
11-26-2006, 12:00 PM
#26
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Re: Dodge Axle Swap: Considerations???
I have not driven a CJ7 that had what I would consider 'good' brakes
when compared to any modern car. I have read of lots of folks trying to
upgrade them using things like masters out of Caddys and such, but....
I just figure that my CJ7 is the small truck it is supposed to be with
braking like a truck.
Mine blew a steel 'line' under emergency stopping. Yes it was one of
the older ones on the vehicle.
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> experience.)
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> > Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power brakes?
> >
> > I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> > and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
> >
> > I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> > pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a little
> > screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> > brake lines.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > James Drinkwater wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30 needs
> to be
> > > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints, ball
> > > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > > Drink
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like Jeep).
> But,
> > > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause the
> > > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > > >
> > > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > > >
> > > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a tie
> rod
> > > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over steering.
> At
> > > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
> conversion.
> > > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other knuckle
> and
> > > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie rod
> end,
> > > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a regular
> tie
> > > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > > >> difficult
> > > >> for me.
> > > >
> > > > Now I have a headache.
> > > >
> > > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
> just
> > > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be cut,
> > > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to get
> > > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > > >
> > > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a 30
> year
> > > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all 'round"
> that
> > > > as
> > > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to change
> it?
> > > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> > > >
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
when compared to any modern car. I have read of lots of folks trying to
upgrade them using things like masters out of Caddys and such, but....
I just figure that my CJ7 is the small truck it is supposed to be with
braking like a truck.
Mine blew a steel 'line' under emergency stopping. Yes it was one of
the older ones on the vehicle.
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> experience.)
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> > Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power brakes?
> >
> > I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> > and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
> >
> > I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> > pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a little
> > screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> > brake lines.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > James Drinkwater wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30 needs
> to be
> > > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints, ball
> > > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > > Drink
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like Jeep).
> But,
> > > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause the
> > > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > > >
> > > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > > >
> > > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a tie
> rod
> > > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over steering.
> At
> > > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
> conversion.
> > > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other knuckle
> and
> > > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie rod
> end,
> > > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a regular
> tie
> > > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > > >> difficult
> > > >> for me.
> > > >
> > > > Now I have a headache.
> > > >
> > > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
> just
> > > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be cut,
> > > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to get
> > > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > > >
> > > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a 30
> year
> > > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all 'round"
> that
> > > > as
> > > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to change
> it?
> > > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> > > >
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
11-26-2006, 12:00 PM
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Re: Dodge Axle Swap: Considerations???
I have not driven a CJ7 that had what I would consider 'good' brakes
when compared to any modern car. I have read of lots of folks trying to
upgrade them using things like masters out of Caddys and such, but....
I just figure that my CJ7 is the small truck it is supposed to be with
braking like a truck.
Mine blew a steel 'line' under emergency stopping. Yes it was one of
the older ones on the vehicle.
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> experience.)
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> > Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power brakes?
> >
> > I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> > and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
> >
> > I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> > pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a little
> > screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> > brake lines.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > James Drinkwater wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30 needs
> to be
> > > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints, ball
> > > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > > Drink
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like Jeep).
> But,
> > > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause the
> > > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > > >
> > > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > > >
> > > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a tie
> rod
> > > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over steering.
> At
> > > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
> conversion.
> > > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other knuckle
> and
> > > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie rod
> end,
> > > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a regular
> tie
> > > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > > >> difficult
> > > >> for me.
> > > >
> > > > Now I have a headache.
> > > >
> > > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
> just
> > > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be cut,
> > > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to get
> > > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > > >
> > > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a 30
> year
> > > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all 'round"
> that
> > > > as
> > > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to change
> it?
> > > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> > > >
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
when compared to any modern car. I have read of lots of folks trying to
upgrade them using things like masters out of Caddys and such, but....
I just figure that my CJ7 is the small truck it is supposed to be with
braking like a truck.
Mine blew a steel 'line' under emergency stopping. Yes it was one of
the older ones on the vehicle.
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> experience.)
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> > Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power brakes?
> >
> > I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> > and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
> >
> > I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> > pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a little
> > screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> > brake lines.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > James Drinkwater wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30 needs
> to be
> > > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints, ball
> > > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > > Drink
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like Jeep).
> But,
> > > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause the
> > > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > > >
> > > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > > >
> > > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a tie
> rod
> > > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over steering.
> At
> > > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
> conversion.
> > > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other knuckle
> and
> > > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie rod
> end,
> > > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a regular
> tie
> > > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > > >> difficult
> > > >> for me.
> > > >
> > > > Now I have a headache.
> > > >
> > > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
> just
> > > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be cut,
> > > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to get
> > > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > > >
> > > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a 30
> year
> > > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all 'round"
> that
> > > > as
> > > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to change
> it?
> > > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> > > >
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
11-26-2006, 12:00 PM
#28
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Re: Dodge Axle Swap: Considerations???
I have not driven a CJ7 that had what I would consider 'good' brakes
when compared to any modern car. I have read of lots of folks trying to
upgrade them using things like masters out of Caddys and such, but....
I just figure that my CJ7 is the small truck it is supposed to be with
braking like a truck.
Mine blew a steel 'line' under emergency stopping. Yes it was one of
the older ones on the vehicle.
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> experience.)
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> > Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power brakes?
> >
> > I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> > and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
> >
> > I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> > pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a little
> > screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> > brake lines.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > James Drinkwater wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30 needs
> to be
> > > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints, ball
> > > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > > Drink
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like Jeep).
> But,
> > > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause the
> > > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > > >
> > > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > > >
> > > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a tie
> rod
> > > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over steering.
> At
> > > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
> conversion.
> > > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other knuckle
> and
> > > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie rod
> end,
> > > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a regular
> tie
> > > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > > >> difficult
> > > >> for me.
> > > >
> > > > Now I have a headache.
> > > >
> > > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
> just
> > > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be cut,
> > > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to get
> > > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > > >
> > > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a 30
> year
> > > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all 'round"
> that
> > > > as
> > > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to change
> it?
> > > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> > > >
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
when compared to any modern car. I have read of lots of folks trying to
upgrade them using things like masters out of Caddys and such, but....
I just figure that my CJ7 is the small truck it is supposed to be with
braking like a truck.
Mine blew a steel 'line' under emergency stopping. Yes it was one of
the older ones on the vehicle.
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> experience.)
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> > Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power brakes?
> >
> > I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> > and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
> >
> > I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> > pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a little
> > screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> > brake lines.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > James Drinkwater wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30 needs
> to be
> > > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints, ball
> > > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > > Drink
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like Jeep).
> But,
> > > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause the
> > > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > > >
> > > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > > >
> > > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a tie
> rod
> > > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over steering.
> At
> > > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
> conversion.
> > > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other knuckle
> and
> > > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie rod
> end,
> > > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a regular
> tie
> > > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > > >> difficult
> > > >> for me.
> > > >
> > > > Now I have a headache.
> > > >
> > > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
> just
> > > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be cut,
> > > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to get
> > > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > > >
> > > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a 30
> year
> > > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all 'round"
> that
> > > > as
> > > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to change
> it?
> > > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> > > >
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
11-26-2006, 12:20 PM
#29
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Re: Dodge Axle Swap: Considerations???
Interesting, because the brakes on newer Jeeps that I have driven have been
pretty good, considering the weight factor. With regard to this thread, I
wouldn't recommend slapping on Dodge brakes, without some consideration
given to proportioning valve, size of disks, pads and pistons, master
cylinder, booster, etc. Unless the parts are all matched more or less
properly, it just won't work as well as it could.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4569C820.58562D66@sympatico.ca...
> I have not driven a CJ7 that had what I would consider 'good' brakes
> when compared to any modern car. I have read of lots of folks trying to
> upgrade them using things like masters out of Caddys and such, but....
>
> I just figure that my CJ7 is the small truck it is supposed to be with
> braking like a truck.
>
> Mine blew a steel 'line' under emergency stopping. Yes it was one of
> the older ones on the vehicle.
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> > Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> > experience.)
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> > > Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power
brakes?
> > >
> > > I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> > > and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
> > >
> > > I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> > > pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a
little
> > > screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> > > brake lines.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > James Drinkwater wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30
needs
> > to be
> > > > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints,
ball
> > > > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > > > Drink
> > > >
> > > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > > > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like
Jeep).
> > But,
> > > > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause
the
> > > > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > > > >
> > > > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a
tie
> > rod
> > > > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over
steering.
> > At
> > > > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
> > conversion.
> > > > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other
knuckle
> > and
> > > > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie
rod
> > end,
> > > > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a
regular
> > tie
> > > > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > > > >> difficult
> > > > >> for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I have a headache.
> > > > >
> > > > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
> > just
> > > > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be
cut,
> > > > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to
get
> > > > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a
30
> > year
> > > > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all
'round"
> > that
> > > > > as
> > > > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to
change
> > it?
> > > > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > > > >
> > > > > Earle
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> > > > >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
pretty good, considering the weight factor. With regard to this thread, I
wouldn't recommend slapping on Dodge brakes, without some consideration
given to proportioning valve, size of disks, pads and pistons, master
cylinder, booster, etc. Unless the parts are all matched more or less
properly, it just won't work as well as it could.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4569C820.58562D66@sympatico.ca...
> I have not driven a CJ7 that had what I would consider 'good' brakes
> when compared to any modern car. I have read of lots of folks trying to
> upgrade them using things like masters out of Caddys and such, but....
>
> I just figure that my CJ7 is the small truck it is supposed to be with
> braking like a truck.
>
> Mine blew a steel 'line' under emergency stopping. Yes it was one of
> the older ones on the vehicle.
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> > Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> > experience.)
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> > > Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power
brakes?
> > >
> > > I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> > > and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
> > >
> > > I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> > > pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a
little
> > > screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> > > brake lines.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > James Drinkwater wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30
needs
> > to be
> > > > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints,
ball
> > > > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > > > Drink
> > > >
> > > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > > > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like
Jeep).
> > But,
> > > > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause
the
> > > > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > > > >
> > > > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a
tie
> > rod
> > > > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over
steering.
> > At
> > > > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
> > conversion.
> > > > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other
knuckle
> > and
> > > > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie
rod
> > end,
> > > > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a
regular
> > tie
> > > > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > > > >> difficult
> > > > >> for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I have a headache.
> > > > >
> > > > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
> > just
> > > > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be
cut,
> > > > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to
get
> > > > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a
30
> > year
> > > > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all
'round"
> > that
> > > > > as
> > > > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to
change
> > it?
> > > > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > > > >
> > > > > Earle
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > > >
> >
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Re: Dodge Axle Swap: Considerations???
Interesting, because the brakes on newer Jeeps that I have driven have been
pretty good, considering the weight factor. With regard to this thread, I
wouldn't recommend slapping on Dodge brakes, without some consideration
given to proportioning valve, size of disks, pads and pistons, master
cylinder, booster, etc. Unless the parts are all matched more or less
properly, it just won't work as well as it could.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4569C820.58562D66@sympatico.ca...
> I have not driven a CJ7 that had what I would consider 'good' brakes
> when compared to any modern car. I have read of lots of folks trying to
> upgrade them using things like masters out of Caddys and such, but....
>
> I just figure that my CJ7 is the small truck it is supposed to be with
> braking like a truck.
>
> Mine blew a steel 'line' under emergency stopping. Yes it was one of
> the older ones on the vehicle.
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> > Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> > experience.)
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> > > Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power
brakes?
> > >
> > > I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> > > and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
> > >
> > > I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> > > pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a
little
> > > screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> > > brake lines.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > James Drinkwater wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30
needs
> > to be
> > > > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints,
ball
> > > > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > > > Drink
> > > >
> > > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > > > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like
Jeep).
> > But,
> > > > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause
the
> > > > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > > > >
> > > > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a
tie
> > rod
> > > > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over
steering.
> > At
> > > > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
> > conversion.
> > > > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other
knuckle
> > and
> > > > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie
rod
> > end,
> > > > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a
regular
> > tie
> > > > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > > > >> difficult
> > > > >> for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I have a headache.
> > > > >
> > > > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
> > just
> > > > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be
cut,
> > > > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to
get
> > > > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a
30
> > year
> > > > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all
'round"
> > that
> > > > > as
> > > > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to
change
> > it?
> > > > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > > > >
> > > > > Earle
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> > > > >
> >
> > --
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pretty good, considering the weight factor. With regard to this thread, I
wouldn't recommend slapping on Dodge brakes, without some consideration
given to proportioning valve, size of disks, pads and pistons, master
cylinder, booster, etc. Unless the parts are all matched more or less
properly, it just won't work as well as it could.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4569C820.58562D66@sympatico.ca...
> I have not driven a CJ7 that had what I would consider 'good' brakes
> when compared to any modern car. I have read of lots of folks trying to
> upgrade them using things like masters out of Caddys and such, but....
>
> I just figure that my CJ7 is the small truck it is supposed to be with
> braking like a truck.
>
> Mine blew a steel 'line' under emergency stopping. Yes it was one of
> the older ones on the vehicle.
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > What exactly is the point here? Disks or calipers not big enough?
> > Mismatched master or booster? (If hoses blow, they are defective, in my
> > experience.)
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4569BEFC.92BB4235@sympatico.ca...
> > > Have you ever driven a more modern CJ with front disks and power
brakes?
> > >
> > > I am 6'4" and 210 lb. My CJ7 has all new rotors, drums and fresh pads
> > > and shoes with 33x9.5 muds on.
> > >
> > > I was forced to lock up my brakes a couple weeks back due to an idiot
> > > pulling a u-turn in front of me and it took 'all' I have to get a
little
> > > screech out of them. That much foot pressure actually blew one of my
> > > brake lines.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > James Drinkwater wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, drum brakes just don't cut it for braking and the Dana30
needs
> > to be
> > > > overhauled completely (driveshaft, all internals, axle U-joints,
ball
> > > > joints). So, looking at ditching it and starting from scratch.
> > > > Drink
> > > >
> > > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:4568c62f$0$21205$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > > "James Drinkwater" <jdrinkwater@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:U54ah.2741$_H5.2232@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > > > >> No. It's a 5 lug and the guy says it's a 5x5.5 (just like
Jeep).
> > But,
> > > > >> my internet search said that the Jeep/Ford rims won't fit 'cause
the
> > > > >> center hole's not big enough for the hub.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dodge wheels will fit.
> > > > >
> > > > >> The Dodge knuckles have the steering on the driver side with a
tie
> > rod
> > > > >> pushing/pulling front to rear so I'd have to get cross-over
steering.
> > At
> > > > >> first, the guy said he'd do it but was quoted $1,000 for the
> > conversion.
> > > > >> Then, he said I could just get a machinist to plane the other
knuckle
> > and
> > > > >> bolt a bracket to it. Or, use a heim joint in place of the tie
rod
> > end,
> > > > >> with a bolt through it, and another heim joint to connect a
regular
> > tie
> > > > >> rod to the pitman arm. That's all good but the perches look too
> > > > >> difficult
> > > > >> for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I have a headache.
> > > > >
> > > > >> The center section spring perch is incorporated in the housing,
> > just
> > > > >> like the D30. If I use it, both tubes and axles will have to be
cut,
> > > > >> right? Before I'm done, won't it be easier and almost cheaper to
get
> > > > >> a custom unit with discs from Currie?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah. What exactly do you want to wind up with here? You have a
30
> > year
> > > > > old Jeep with "original D30 front/AMC20 rear & 11" drums all
'round"
> > that
> > > > > as
> > > > > far as we can tell, is still operational. Why do you want to
change
> > it?
> > > > > Disks are nice, but 11" drums aren't too bad either.
> > > > >
> > > > > Earle
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> > > > >
> >
> > --
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