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Jacob 03-18-2006 12:44 PM

Re: Dj5-F electrical problems
 
My friend has built 6 rock crawlers and sold them from 25 k and up. he
has also fixed my mazda. I know he is a qualified mechanic, but he
moved to Tahoe, I live in santa cruz 200 miles away. He didn't have
time to check the electrical before he left. Which is why i'm doing it.


Jacob 03-18-2006 12:44 PM

Re: Dj5-F electrical problems
 
My friend has built 6 rock crawlers and sold them from 25 k and up. he
has also fixed my mazda. I know he is a qualified mechanic, but he
moved to Tahoe, I live in santa cruz 200 miles away. He didn't have
time to check the electrical before he left. Which is why i'm doing it.


Jacob 03-18-2006 12:44 PM

Re: Dj5-F electrical problems
 
My friend has built 6 rock crawlers and sold them from 25 k and up. he
has also fixed my mazda. I know he is a qualified mechanic, but he
moved to Tahoe, I live in santa cruz 200 miles away. He didn't have
time to check the electrical before he left. Which is why i'm doing it.


Carl 03-18-2006 01:09 PM

Re: Dj5-F electrical problems
 
If you are crossing the terminals to start it then it sounds like the
starter selonoid to me. Some engines have a combination starter/selonoid
(two units attached together), some have a starter on the block and a
selonoid on the fender. If you have the former, pull it out, take to to an
auto parts store and have it tested. If the latter, pull the selonoid and go
buy a new one. Selonoids only 10-12 bux so if it doesn't work, it's not
really a big deal.

HTH, let us know.

Carl


"Jacob" <zorak_teh_slayer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142703861.941466.207780@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> My friend has built 6 rock crawlers and sold them from 25 k and up. he
> has also fixed my mazda. I know he is a qualified mechanic, but he
> moved to Tahoe, I live in santa cruz 200 miles away. He didn't have
> time to check the electrical before he left. Which is why i'm doing it.
>




Carl 03-18-2006 01:09 PM

Re: Dj5-F electrical problems
 
If you are crossing the terminals to start it then it sounds like the
starter selonoid to me. Some engines have a combination starter/selonoid
(two units attached together), some have a starter on the block and a
selonoid on the fender. If you have the former, pull it out, take to to an
auto parts store and have it tested. If the latter, pull the selonoid and go
buy a new one. Selonoids only 10-12 bux so if it doesn't work, it's not
really a big deal.

HTH, let us know.

Carl


"Jacob" <zorak_teh_slayer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142703861.941466.207780@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> My friend has built 6 rock crawlers and sold them from 25 k and up. he
> has also fixed my mazda. I know he is a qualified mechanic, but he
> moved to Tahoe, I live in santa cruz 200 miles away. He didn't have
> time to check the electrical before he left. Which is why i'm doing it.
>




Carl 03-18-2006 01:09 PM

Re: Dj5-F electrical problems
 
If you are crossing the terminals to start it then it sounds like the
starter selonoid to me. Some engines have a combination starter/selonoid
(two units attached together), some have a starter on the block and a
selonoid on the fender. If you have the former, pull it out, take to to an
auto parts store and have it tested. If the latter, pull the selonoid and go
buy a new one. Selonoids only 10-12 bux so if it doesn't work, it's not
really a big deal.

HTH, let us know.

Carl


"Jacob" <zorak_teh_slayer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142703861.941466.207780@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> My friend has built 6 rock crawlers and sold them from 25 k and up. he
> has also fixed my mazda. I know he is a qualified mechanic, but he
> moved to Tahoe, I live in santa cruz 200 miles away. He didn't have
> time to check the electrical before he left. Which is why i'm doing it.
>




Carl 03-18-2006 01:09 PM

Re: Dj5-F electrical problems
 
If you are crossing the terminals to start it then it sounds like the
starter selonoid to me. Some engines have a combination starter/selonoid
(two units attached together), some have a starter on the block and a
selonoid on the fender. If you have the former, pull it out, take to to an
auto parts store and have it tested. If the latter, pull the selonoid and go
buy a new one. Selonoids only 10-12 bux so if it doesn't work, it's not
really a big deal.

HTH, let us know.

Carl


"Jacob" <zorak_teh_slayer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142703861.941466.207780@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> My friend has built 6 rock crawlers and sold them from 25 k and up. he
> has also fixed my mazda. I know he is a qualified mechanic, but he
> moved to Tahoe, I live in santa cruz 200 miles away. He didn't have
> time to check the electrical before he left. Which is why i'm doing it.
>




Mike Romain 03-18-2006 01:20 PM

Re: Dj5-F electrical problems
 
Ok, that means you have a dirty connection on the starter solenoid
likely.

Follow the positive cable to the fender and the box it bolts to. This
is the starter solenoid or relay. You need to clean the connection to
the battery cable and the connection to the starter cable and the little
side small ones. In other words clean all the connections on this.

One of the side ones, the light blue comes from the key switch and fires
this up. If the connections are clean and it still doesn't click when
you put the key to start, then try using a jumper from this side
terminal with the blue wire to the battery. If the starter turns, you
have an issue with the keyswitch, if nothing happens then the solenoid
might be bad. You can rap it with a screwdriver handle or gently with a
hammer to see if it then works. Sometimes they get stuck when sitting.
They are cheap, about $8-12.00.

Note: The body must be grounded for this solenoid to work so make sure
the wire mesh cable from the back of the head to the firewall isn't
broken.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jacob wrote:
>
> Yes its a 3.8l I6 And by jump it i mean taking the starter moter leed
> cable and touching it to the posative terminal on the battery Voila it
> cranks. When i turn the key after reconnecting the leed, nothing
> happens at all.
> Jacob


Mike Romain 03-18-2006 01:20 PM

Re: Dj5-F electrical problems
 
Ok, that means you have a dirty connection on the starter solenoid
likely.

Follow the positive cable to the fender and the box it bolts to. This
is the starter solenoid or relay. You need to clean the connection to
the battery cable and the connection to the starter cable and the little
side small ones. In other words clean all the connections on this.

One of the side ones, the light blue comes from the key switch and fires
this up. If the connections are clean and it still doesn't click when
you put the key to start, then try using a jumper from this side
terminal with the blue wire to the battery. If the starter turns, you
have an issue with the keyswitch, if nothing happens then the solenoid
might be bad. You can rap it with a screwdriver handle or gently with a
hammer to see if it then works. Sometimes they get stuck when sitting.
They are cheap, about $8-12.00.

Note: The body must be grounded for this solenoid to work so make sure
the wire mesh cable from the back of the head to the firewall isn't
broken.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jacob wrote:
>
> Yes its a 3.8l I6 And by jump it i mean taking the starter moter leed
> cable and touching it to the posative terminal on the battery Voila it
> cranks. When i turn the key after reconnecting the leed, nothing
> happens at all.
> Jacob


Mike Romain 03-18-2006 01:20 PM

Re: Dj5-F electrical problems
 
Ok, that means you have a dirty connection on the starter solenoid
likely.

Follow the positive cable to the fender and the box it bolts to. This
is the starter solenoid or relay. You need to clean the connection to
the battery cable and the connection to the starter cable and the little
side small ones. In other words clean all the connections on this.

One of the side ones, the light blue comes from the key switch and fires
this up. If the connections are clean and it still doesn't click when
you put the key to start, then try using a jumper from this side
terminal with the blue wire to the battery. If the starter turns, you
have an issue with the keyswitch, if nothing happens then the solenoid
might be bad. You can rap it with a screwdriver handle or gently with a
hammer to see if it then works. Sometimes they get stuck when sitting.
They are cheap, about $8-12.00.

Note: The body must be grounded for this solenoid to work so make sure
the wire mesh cable from the back of the head to the firewall isn't
broken.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jacob wrote:
>
> Yes its a 3.8l I6 And by jump it i mean taking the starter moter leed
> cable and touching it to the posative terminal on the battery Voila it
> cranks. When i turn the key after reconnecting the leed, nothing
> happens at all.
> Jacob



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