Distributor noise?
#51
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Re: Distributor noise?
You just haven't worked on enough 4.0L Jeeps. :-)
In message <4046C886.A987A6CA@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
> It's just that I've never heard of distributor bearing failure,
>with thousands of old engines I've had to work on, lots of centrifugal
>weights and their shaft wearing out, but nothing that would make a
>squeal, Especially the way that engine typically blows oil out every
>seal and gasket, it seems the the distributor bushing would be well
>oiled, but Bullsh*t here, says it's common..
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jerry Newton wrote:
>>
>> Everyone offers good advice, and it seems like the belt is the consensus
>> failure. Question is, how do you get belt noise from the distributor on a
>> 4.0?
In message <4046C886.A987A6CA@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
> It's just that I've never heard of distributor bearing failure,
>with thousands of old engines I've had to work on, lots of centrifugal
>weights and their shaft wearing out, but nothing that would make a
>squeal, Especially the way that engine typically blows oil out every
>seal and gasket, it seems the the distributor bushing would be well
>oiled, but Bullsh*t here, says it's common..
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jerry Newton wrote:
>>
>> Everyone offers good advice, and it seems like the belt is the consensus
>> failure. Question is, how do you get belt noise from the distributor on a
>> 4.0?
#52
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Re: Distributor noise?
You just haven't worked on enough 4.0L Jeeps. :-)
In message <4046C886.A987A6CA@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
> It's just that I've never heard of distributor bearing failure,
>with thousands of old engines I've had to work on, lots of centrifugal
>weights and their shaft wearing out, but nothing that would make a
>squeal, Especially the way that engine typically blows oil out every
>seal and gasket, it seems the the distributor bushing would be well
>oiled, but Bullsh*t here, says it's common..
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jerry Newton wrote:
>>
>> Everyone offers good advice, and it seems like the belt is the consensus
>> failure. Question is, how do you get belt noise from the distributor on a
>> 4.0?
In message <4046C886.A987A6CA@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
> It's just that I've never heard of distributor bearing failure,
>with thousands of old engines I've had to work on, lots of centrifugal
>weights and their shaft wearing out, but nothing that would make a
>squeal, Especially the way that engine typically blows oil out every
>seal and gasket, it seems the the distributor bushing would be well
>oiled, but Bullsh*t here, says it's common..
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jerry Newton wrote:
>>
>> Everyone offers good advice, and it seems like the belt is the consensus
>> failure. Question is, how do you get belt noise from the distributor on a
>> 4.0?
#53
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Re: Distributor noise?
Fortunately, but I did pit for a '64 Rambler that qualified at
National Hot Rod Association Winter Nationals, Pomona, California, that
year.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> You just haven't worked on enough 4.0L Jeeps. :-)
National Hot Rod Association Winter Nationals, Pomona, California, that
year.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> You just haven't worked on enough 4.0L Jeeps. :-)
#54
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Re: Distributor noise?
Fortunately, but I did pit for a '64 Rambler that qualified at
National Hot Rod Association Winter Nationals, Pomona, California, that
year.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> You just haven't worked on enough 4.0L Jeeps. :-)
National Hot Rod Association Winter Nationals, Pomona, California, that
year.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> You just haven't worked on enough 4.0L Jeeps. :-)
#55
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Re: Distributor noise?
Fortunately, but I did pit for a '64 Rambler that qualified at
National Hot Rod Association Winter Nationals, Pomona, California, that
year.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> You just haven't worked on enough 4.0L Jeeps. :-)
National Hot Rod Association Winter Nationals, Pomona, California, that
year.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> You just haven't worked on enough 4.0L Jeeps. :-)
#56
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Re: Distributor noise?
I am having a similar noise as you describe on the Wife's minivan, and I
recently replaced the distributor. I was thinking I need to get her some new
belts, but maybe my distributor is toast.
I was putting off working on the belts because I am lazy and they take more
effort to replace than the problem they present.
If I took the belts off all together, and started the motor and heard the
same noise, the only thing to consider at that point will be the
distributor, right? (I wrote that before I read all of your post, then I
scrolled down and noticed you came up with the same test. I think there will
be two posts here on Monday to describe the results of taking the belt(s)
off and checking for noise.)
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:glsf409r5tn9gmeb86lvi7vpgsko5b7pmd@4ax.com...
> Maybe he has misdiagnosed it, but given the fact he's had his head under
the
> hood, and you haven't, I'd believe him. :-)
>
> It's not the norm, but it's still very common to have a distributor make
the
> noise he's describing, many times well below the 100k mile mark.
Rhythmic,
> sometimes intermittent, sometimes louder, sometimes really quiet. "Bird
chirp"
> is a really good description, and if you ever heard one, you'd know
immediately
> that it's not a belt type squeak.
>
> BTW, even cheaper than a $5 belt, how about removing the belt altogether
to see
> if the noise is still there. If it is still there, you've eliminated a
----
> load of possibilities and it didn't cost nuttin'!
>
>
> In message <104f0rs7q1g1q69@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
>
> >I hear you, but my take is that he has diagnosed incorrectly. The
> >distributor shouldn't get dry bearings already. It may have been
submerged,
> >and this fact would change my position on the matter, and I would also go
> >along with the distributor diagnosis. But, given the real world, the
belt(s)
> >and/or the alternator bearings are more likely to make a squealing noise
> >than the distributor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> >news:f2gd40dr3lbjn4trqm928s77grkpri42oi@4ax.com.. .
> >> The OP already said he'd narrowed it down to the distributor area, and
> >it's
> >> pretty common for them to squeak when they wear out, despite the fact
that
> >it's
> >> never happened to you.
> >>
> >> It most likely needs a distributor.
> >>
> >> In message <104c5vumldvlc4e@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> >>
> >> >While is certainly is within the realm of possibility, a new belt runs
> >about
> >> >$5, and a new distributor is going to be about $150. And, I drive an
'81
> >> >that had the original distributor as recently as 2000, so I tend to
> >discount
> >> >the distributor as the problem. (My distributor got replaced because I
> >> >installed a fuel injection system, and it required a different kind of
> >> >distributor, else I would still be using it.)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:40453232_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> >> >> It is within the realm of possibility that the distributor is
wearing
> >out.
> >> >> This will be confirmed when it siezes up and the vehicle ceases to
> >> >operate.
> >> >> If you know that the noise is coming from the distributor, I would
> >replace
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jerry
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:104a9hg2gdssn35@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> > You are describing a belt problem. It could be a bearing issue,
most
> >> >> notably
> >> >> > with the idler pulley, but it is normally the belt that is making
> >noise.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since you ruled out that the belts were not bad, it leaves open
the
> >> >> > possibility that they are bad. (the whole double-negative thing
....)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "DaryRon Steffey" <dstef1605db@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:104a4eh8ji43t40@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> > > I have have 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L, and one morning I
went
> >out
> >> >to
> >> >> > > start it up and it started and ran fine, but it started making a
> >sort
> >> >of
> >> >> > > belt squeaking sound. I checked the belts and they are nice,
new
> >and
> >> >> > > fresh looking. SO I ruled out that the belts were not bad. I
drove
> >> >the
> >> >> > > vehicle for a week or so and the car didn't make the noise, but
it
> >has
> >> >> > > now started making the noise again, but at times the noise is
faint
> >> >> > > something like a bird chirping, and it then has times that its
loud
> >> >such
> >> >> > > as a belt squealing. I have ruled that the area that the sound
> >seems
> >> >> > > to be coming from is near or around the distributor. I have
> >recently
> >> >> > > purchased a new distributor cap, and rotor button, plugs & wires
> >> >because
> >> >> > > it needs it 100 thousand miles replacement. I haven't installed
> >these
> >> >> > > yet because I haven't had time, but I am wondering if anyone has
> >heard
> >> >> > > of this and that it is the distributor going south? The car only
> >has
> >> >> > > 106,000 miles on it and I talked to a gent at a local parts
store
> >and
> >> >he
> >> >> > > said that that is really low mileage for the distributor to be
> >going
> >> >bad
> >> >> > > . Any suggestions or advice is really appreciated!!
> >> >> > > THANKS!
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
recently replaced the distributor. I was thinking I need to get her some new
belts, but maybe my distributor is toast.
I was putting off working on the belts because I am lazy and they take more
effort to replace than the problem they present.
If I took the belts off all together, and started the motor and heard the
same noise, the only thing to consider at that point will be the
distributor, right? (I wrote that before I read all of your post, then I
scrolled down and noticed you came up with the same test. I think there will
be two posts here on Monday to describe the results of taking the belt(s)
off and checking for noise.)
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:glsf409r5tn9gmeb86lvi7vpgsko5b7pmd@4ax.com...
> Maybe he has misdiagnosed it, but given the fact he's had his head under
the
> hood, and you haven't, I'd believe him. :-)
>
> It's not the norm, but it's still very common to have a distributor make
the
> noise he's describing, many times well below the 100k mile mark.
Rhythmic,
> sometimes intermittent, sometimes louder, sometimes really quiet. "Bird
chirp"
> is a really good description, and if you ever heard one, you'd know
immediately
> that it's not a belt type squeak.
>
> BTW, even cheaper than a $5 belt, how about removing the belt altogether
to see
> if the noise is still there. If it is still there, you've eliminated a
----
> load of possibilities and it didn't cost nuttin'!
>
>
> In message <104f0rs7q1g1q69@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
>
> >I hear you, but my take is that he has diagnosed incorrectly. The
> >distributor shouldn't get dry bearings already. It may have been
submerged,
> >and this fact would change my position on the matter, and I would also go
> >along with the distributor diagnosis. But, given the real world, the
belt(s)
> >and/or the alternator bearings are more likely to make a squealing noise
> >than the distributor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> >news:f2gd40dr3lbjn4trqm928s77grkpri42oi@4ax.com.. .
> >> The OP already said he'd narrowed it down to the distributor area, and
> >it's
> >> pretty common for them to squeak when they wear out, despite the fact
that
> >it's
> >> never happened to you.
> >>
> >> It most likely needs a distributor.
> >>
> >> In message <104c5vumldvlc4e@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> >>
> >> >While is certainly is within the realm of possibility, a new belt runs
> >about
> >> >$5, and a new distributor is going to be about $150. And, I drive an
'81
> >> >that had the original distributor as recently as 2000, so I tend to
> >discount
> >> >the distributor as the problem. (My distributor got replaced because I
> >> >installed a fuel injection system, and it required a different kind of
> >> >distributor, else I would still be using it.)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:40453232_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> >> >> It is within the realm of possibility that the distributor is
wearing
> >out.
> >> >> This will be confirmed when it siezes up and the vehicle ceases to
> >> >operate.
> >> >> If you know that the noise is coming from the distributor, I would
> >replace
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jerry
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:104a9hg2gdssn35@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> > You are describing a belt problem. It could be a bearing issue,
most
> >> >> notably
> >> >> > with the idler pulley, but it is normally the belt that is making
> >noise.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since you ruled out that the belts were not bad, it leaves open
the
> >> >> > possibility that they are bad. (the whole double-negative thing
....)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "DaryRon Steffey" <dstef1605db@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:104a4eh8ji43t40@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> > > I have have 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L, and one morning I
went
> >out
> >> >to
> >> >> > > start it up and it started and ran fine, but it started making a
> >sort
> >> >of
> >> >> > > belt squeaking sound. I checked the belts and they are nice,
new
> >and
> >> >> > > fresh looking. SO I ruled out that the belts were not bad. I
drove
> >> >the
> >> >> > > vehicle for a week or so and the car didn't make the noise, but
it
> >has
> >> >> > > now started making the noise again, but at times the noise is
faint
> >> >> > > something like a bird chirping, and it then has times that its
loud
> >> >such
> >> >> > > as a belt squealing. I have ruled that the area that the sound
> >seems
> >> >> > > to be coming from is near or around the distributor. I have
> >recently
> >> >> > > purchased a new distributor cap, and rotor button, plugs & wires
> >> >because
> >> >> > > it needs it 100 thousand miles replacement. I haven't installed
> >these
> >> >> > > yet because I haven't had time, but I am wondering if anyone has
> >heard
> >> >> > > of this and that it is the distributor going south? The car only
> >has
> >> >> > > 106,000 miles on it and I talked to a gent at a local parts
store
> >and
> >> >he
> >> >> > > said that that is really low mileage for the distributor to be
> >going
> >> >bad
> >> >> > > . Any suggestions or advice is really appreciated!!
> >> >> > > THANKS!
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
#57
Guest
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Re: Distributor noise?
I am having a similar noise as you describe on the Wife's minivan, and I
recently replaced the distributor. I was thinking I need to get her some new
belts, but maybe my distributor is toast.
I was putting off working on the belts because I am lazy and they take more
effort to replace than the problem they present.
If I took the belts off all together, and started the motor and heard the
same noise, the only thing to consider at that point will be the
distributor, right? (I wrote that before I read all of your post, then I
scrolled down and noticed you came up with the same test. I think there will
be two posts here on Monday to describe the results of taking the belt(s)
off and checking for noise.)
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:glsf409r5tn9gmeb86lvi7vpgsko5b7pmd@4ax.com...
> Maybe he has misdiagnosed it, but given the fact he's had his head under
the
> hood, and you haven't, I'd believe him. :-)
>
> It's not the norm, but it's still very common to have a distributor make
the
> noise he's describing, many times well below the 100k mile mark.
Rhythmic,
> sometimes intermittent, sometimes louder, sometimes really quiet. "Bird
chirp"
> is a really good description, and if you ever heard one, you'd know
immediately
> that it's not a belt type squeak.
>
> BTW, even cheaper than a $5 belt, how about removing the belt altogether
to see
> if the noise is still there. If it is still there, you've eliminated a
----
> load of possibilities and it didn't cost nuttin'!
>
>
> In message <104f0rs7q1g1q69@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
>
> >I hear you, but my take is that he has diagnosed incorrectly. The
> >distributor shouldn't get dry bearings already. It may have been
submerged,
> >and this fact would change my position on the matter, and I would also go
> >along with the distributor diagnosis. But, given the real world, the
belt(s)
> >and/or the alternator bearings are more likely to make a squealing noise
> >than the distributor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> >news:f2gd40dr3lbjn4trqm928s77grkpri42oi@4ax.com.. .
> >> The OP already said he'd narrowed it down to the distributor area, and
> >it's
> >> pretty common for them to squeak when they wear out, despite the fact
that
> >it's
> >> never happened to you.
> >>
> >> It most likely needs a distributor.
> >>
> >> In message <104c5vumldvlc4e@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> >>
> >> >While is certainly is within the realm of possibility, a new belt runs
> >about
> >> >$5, and a new distributor is going to be about $150. And, I drive an
'81
> >> >that had the original distributor as recently as 2000, so I tend to
> >discount
> >> >the distributor as the problem. (My distributor got replaced because I
> >> >installed a fuel injection system, and it required a different kind of
> >> >distributor, else I would still be using it.)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:40453232_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> >> >> It is within the realm of possibility that the distributor is
wearing
> >out.
> >> >> This will be confirmed when it siezes up and the vehicle ceases to
> >> >operate.
> >> >> If you know that the noise is coming from the distributor, I would
> >replace
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jerry
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:104a9hg2gdssn35@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> > You are describing a belt problem. It could be a bearing issue,
most
> >> >> notably
> >> >> > with the idler pulley, but it is normally the belt that is making
> >noise.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since you ruled out that the belts were not bad, it leaves open
the
> >> >> > possibility that they are bad. (the whole double-negative thing
....)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "DaryRon Steffey" <dstef1605db@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:104a4eh8ji43t40@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> > > I have have 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L, and one morning I
went
> >out
> >> >to
> >> >> > > start it up and it started and ran fine, but it started making a
> >sort
> >> >of
> >> >> > > belt squeaking sound. I checked the belts and they are nice,
new
> >and
> >> >> > > fresh looking. SO I ruled out that the belts were not bad. I
drove
> >> >the
> >> >> > > vehicle for a week or so and the car didn't make the noise, but
it
> >has
> >> >> > > now started making the noise again, but at times the noise is
faint
> >> >> > > something like a bird chirping, and it then has times that its
loud
> >> >such
> >> >> > > as a belt squealing. I have ruled that the area that the sound
> >seems
> >> >> > > to be coming from is near or around the distributor. I have
> >recently
> >> >> > > purchased a new distributor cap, and rotor button, plugs & wires
> >> >because
> >> >> > > it needs it 100 thousand miles replacement. I haven't installed
> >these
> >> >> > > yet because I haven't had time, but I am wondering if anyone has
> >heard
> >> >> > > of this and that it is the distributor going south? The car only
> >has
> >> >> > > 106,000 miles on it and I talked to a gent at a local parts
store
> >and
> >> >he
> >> >> > > said that that is really low mileage for the distributor to be
> >going
> >> >bad
> >> >> > > . Any suggestions or advice is really appreciated!!
> >> >> > > THANKS!
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
recently replaced the distributor. I was thinking I need to get her some new
belts, but maybe my distributor is toast.
I was putting off working on the belts because I am lazy and they take more
effort to replace than the problem they present.
If I took the belts off all together, and started the motor and heard the
same noise, the only thing to consider at that point will be the
distributor, right? (I wrote that before I read all of your post, then I
scrolled down and noticed you came up with the same test. I think there will
be two posts here on Monday to describe the results of taking the belt(s)
off and checking for noise.)
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:glsf409r5tn9gmeb86lvi7vpgsko5b7pmd@4ax.com...
> Maybe he has misdiagnosed it, but given the fact he's had his head under
the
> hood, and you haven't, I'd believe him. :-)
>
> It's not the norm, but it's still very common to have a distributor make
the
> noise he's describing, many times well below the 100k mile mark.
Rhythmic,
> sometimes intermittent, sometimes louder, sometimes really quiet. "Bird
chirp"
> is a really good description, and if you ever heard one, you'd know
immediately
> that it's not a belt type squeak.
>
> BTW, even cheaper than a $5 belt, how about removing the belt altogether
to see
> if the noise is still there. If it is still there, you've eliminated a
----
> load of possibilities and it didn't cost nuttin'!
>
>
> In message <104f0rs7q1g1q69@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
>
> >I hear you, but my take is that he has diagnosed incorrectly. The
> >distributor shouldn't get dry bearings already. It may have been
submerged,
> >and this fact would change my position on the matter, and I would also go
> >along with the distributor diagnosis. But, given the real world, the
belt(s)
> >and/or the alternator bearings are more likely to make a squealing noise
> >than the distributor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> >news:f2gd40dr3lbjn4trqm928s77grkpri42oi@4ax.com.. .
> >> The OP already said he'd narrowed it down to the distributor area, and
> >it's
> >> pretty common for them to squeak when they wear out, despite the fact
that
> >it's
> >> never happened to you.
> >>
> >> It most likely needs a distributor.
> >>
> >> In message <104c5vumldvlc4e@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> >>
> >> >While is certainly is within the realm of possibility, a new belt runs
> >about
> >> >$5, and a new distributor is going to be about $150. And, I drive an
'81
> >> >that had the original distributor as recently as 2000, so I tend to
> >discount
> >> >the distributor as the problem. (My distributor got replaced because I
> >> >installed a fuel injection system, and it required a different kind of
> >> >distributor, else I would still be using it.)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:40453232_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> >> >> It is within the realm of possibility that the distributor is
wearing
> >out.
> >> >> This will be confirmed when it siezes up and the vehicle ceases to
> >> >operate.
> >> >> If you know that the noise is coming from the distributor, I would
> >replace
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jerry
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:104a9hg2gdssn35@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> > You are describing a belt problem. It could be a bearing issue,
most
> >> >> notably
> >> >> > with the idler pulley, but it is normally the belt that is making
> >noise.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since you ruled out that the belts were not bad, it leaves open
the
> >> >> > possibility that they are bad. (the whole double-negative thing
....)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "DaryRon Steffey" <dstef1605db@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:104a4eh8ji43t40@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> > > I have have 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L, and one morning I
went
> >out
> >> >to
> >> >> > > start it up and it started and ran fine, but it started making a
> >sort
> >> >of
> >> >> > > belt squeaking sound. I checked the belts and they are nice,
new
> >and
> >> >> > > fresh looking. SO I ruled out that the belts were not bad. I
drove
> >> >the
> >> >> > > vehicle for a week or so and the car didn't make the noise, but
it
> >has
> >> >> > > now started making the noise again, but at times the noise is
faint
> >> >> > > something like a bird chirping, and it then has times that its
loud
> >> >such
> >> >> > > as a belt squealing. I have ruled that the area that the sound
> >seems
> >> >> > > to be coming from is near or around the distributor. I have
> >recently
> >> >> > > purchased a new distributor cap, and rotor button, plugs & wires
> >> >because
> >> >> > > it needs it 100 thousand miles replacement. I haven't installed
> >these
> >> >> > > yet because I haven't had time, but I am wondering if anyone has
> >heard
> >> >> > > of this and that it is the distributor going south? The car only
> >has
> >> >> > > 106,000 miles on it and I talked to a gent at a local parts
store
> >and
> >> >he
> >> >> > > said that that is really low mileage for the distributor to be
> >going
> >> >bad
> >> >> > > . Any suggestions or advice is really appreciated!!
> >> >> > > THANKS!
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Distributor noise?
I am having a similar noise as you describe on the Wife's minivan, and I
recently replaced the distributor. I was thinking I need to get her some new
belts, but maybe my distributor is toast.
I was putting off working on the belts because I am lazy and they take more
effort to replace than the problem they present.
If I took the belts off all together, and started the motor and heard the
same noise, the only thing to consider at that point will be the
distributor, right? (I wrote that before I read all of your post, then I
scrolled down and noticed you came up with the same test. I think there will
be two posts here on Monday to describe the results of taking the belt(s)
off and checking for noise.)
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:glsf409r5tn9gmeb86lvi7vpgsko5b7pmd@4ax.com...
> Maybe he has misdiagnosed it, but given the fact he's had his head under
the
> hood, and you haven't, I'd believe him. :-)
>
> It's not the norm, but it's still very common to have a distributor make
the
> noise he's describing, many times well below the 100k mile mark.
Rhythmic,
> sometimes intermittent, sometimes louder, sometimes really quiet. "Bird
chirp"
> is a really good description, and if you ever heard one, you'd know
immediately
> that it's not a belt type squeak.
>
> BTW, even cheaper than a $5 belt, how about removing the belt altogether
to see
> if the noise is still there. If it is still there, you've eliminated a
----
> load of possibilities and it didn't cost nuttin'!
>
>
> In message <104f0rs7q1g1q69@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
>
> >I hear you, but my take is that he has diagnosed incorrectly. The
> >distributor shouldn't get dry bearings already. It may have been
submerged,
> >and this fact would change my position on the matter, and I would also go
> >along with the distributor diagnosis. But, given the real world, the
belt(s)
> >and/or the alternator bearings are more likely to make a squealing noise
> >than the distributor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> >news:f2gd40dr3lbjn4trqm928s77grkpri42oi@4ax.com.. .
> >> The OP already said he'd narrowed it down to the distributor area, and
> >it's
> >> pretty common for them to squeak when they wear out, despite the fact
that
> >it's
> >> never happened to you.
> >>
> >> It most likely needs a distributor.
> >>
> >> In message <104c5vumldvlc4e@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> >>
> >> >While is certainly is within the realm of possibility, a new belt runs
> >about
> >> >$5, and a new distributor is going to be about $150. And, I drive an
'81
> >> >that had the original distributor as recently as 2000, so I tend to
> >discount
> >> >the distributor as the problem. (My distributor got replaced because I
> >> >installed a fuel injection system, and it required a different kind of
> >> >distributor, else I would still be using it.)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:40453232_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> >> >> It is within the realm of possibility that the distributor is
wearing
> >out.
> >> >> This will be confirmed when it siezes up and the vehicle ceases to
> >> >operate.
> >> >> If you know that the noise is coming from the distributor, I would
> >replace
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jerry
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:104a9hg2gdssn35@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> > You are describing a belt problem. It could be a bearing issue,
most
> >> >> notably
> >> >> > with the idler pulley, but it is normally the belt that is making
> >noise.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since you ruled out that the belts were not bad, it leaves open
the
> >> >> > possibility that they are bad. (the whole double-negative thing
....)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "DaryRon Steffey" <dstef1605db@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:104a4eh8ji43t40@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> > > I have have 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L, and one morning I
went
> >out
> >> >to
> >> >> > > start it up and it started and ran fine, but it started making a
> >sort
> >> >of
> >> >> > > belt squeaking sound. I checked the belts and they are nice,
new
> >and
> >> >> > > fresh looking. SO I ruled out that the belts were not bad. I
drove
> >> >the
> >> >> > > vehicle for a week or so and the car didn't make the noise, but
it
> >has
> >> >> > > now started making the noise again, but at times the noise is
faint
> >> >> > > something like a bird chirping, and it then has times that its
loud
> >> >such
> >> >> > > as a belt squealing. I have ruled that the area that the sound
> >seems
> >> >> > > to be coming from is near or around the distributor. I have
> >recently
> >> >> > > purchased a new distributor cap, and rotor button, plugs & wires
> >> >because
> >> >> > > it needs it 100 thousand miles replacement. I haven't installed
> >these
> >> >> > > yet because I haven't had time, but I am wondering if anyone has
> >heard
> >> >> > > of this and that it is the distributor going south? The car only
> >has
> >> >> > > 106,000 miles on it and I talked to a gent at a local parts
store
> >and
> >> >he
> >> >> > > said that that is really low mileage for the distributor to be
> >going
> >> >bad
> >> >> > > . Any suggestions or advice is really appreciated!!
> >> >> > > THANKS!
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
recently replaced the distributor. I was thinking I need to get her some new
belts, but maybe my distributor is toast.
I was putting off working on the belts because I am lazy and they take more
effort to replace than the problem they present.
If I took the belts off all together, and started the motor and heard the
same noise, the only thing to consider at that point will be the
distributor, right? (I wrote that before I read all of your post, then I
scrolled down and noticed you came up with the same test. I think there will
be two posts here on Monday to describe the results of taking the belt(s)
off and checking for noise.)
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:glsf409r5tn9gmeb86lvi7vpgsko5b7pmd@4ax.com...
> Maybe he has misdiagnosed it, but given the fact he's had his head under
the
> hood, and you haven't, I'd believe him. :-)
>
> It's not the norm, but it's still very common to have a distributor make
the
> noise he's describing, many times well below the 100k mile mark.
Rhythmic,
> sometimes intermittent, sometimes louder, sometimes really quiet. "Bird
chirp"
> is a really good description, and if you ever heard one, you'd know
immediately
> that it's not a belt type squeak.
>
> BTW, even cheaper than a $5 belt, how about removing the belt altogether
to see
> if the noise is still there. If it is still there, you've eliminated a
----
> load of possibilities and it didn't cost nuttin'!
>
>
> In message <104f0rs7q1g1q69@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
>
> >I hear you, but my take is that he has diagnosed incorrectly. The
> >distributor shouldn't get dry bearings already. It may have been
submerged,
> >and this fact would change my position on the matter, and I would also go
> >along with the distributor diagnosis. But, given the real world, the
belt(s)
> >and/or the alternator bearings are more likely to make a squealing noise
> >than the distributor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> >news:f2gd40dr3lbjn4trqm928s77grkpri42oi@4ax.com.. .
> >> The OP already said he'd narrowed it down to the distributor area, and
> >it's
> >> pretty common for them to squeak when they wear out, despite the fact
that
> >it's
> >> never happened to you.
> >>
> >> It most likely needs a distributor.
> >>
> >> In message <104c5vumldvlc4e@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> >>
> >> >While is certainly is within the realm of possibility, a new belt runs
> >about
> >> >$5, and a new distributor is going to be about $150. And, I drive an
'81
> >> >that had the original distributor as recently as 2000, so I tend to
> >discount
> >> >the distributor as the problem. (My distributor got replaced because I
> >> >installed a fuel injection system, and it required a different kind of
> >> >distributor, else I would still be using it.)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:40453232_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> >> >> It is within the realm of possibility that the distributor is
wearing
> >out.
> >> >> This will be confirmed when it siezes up and the vehicle ceases to
> >> >operate.
> >> >> If you know that the noise is coming from the distributor, I would
> >replace
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jerry
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:104a9hg2gdssn35@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> > You are describing a belt problem. It could be a bearing issue,
most
> >> >> notably
> >> >> > with the idler pulley, but it is normally the belt that is making
> >noise.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since you ruled out that the belts were not bad, it leaves open
the
> >> >> > possibility that they are bad. (the whole double-negative thing
....)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "DaryRon Steffey" <dstef1605db@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:104a4eh8ji43t40@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> > > I have have 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L, and one morning I
went
> >out
> >> >to
> >> >> > > start it up and it started and ran fine, but it started making a
> >sort
> >> >of
> >> >> > > belt squeaking sound. I checked the belts and they are nice,
new
> >and
> >> >> > > fresh looking. SO I ruled out that the belts were not bad. I
drove
> >> >the
> >> >> > > vehicle for a week or so and the car didn't make the noise, but
it
> >has
> >> >> > > now started making the noise again, but at times the noise is
faint
> >> >> > > something like a bird chirping, and it then has times that its
loud
> >> >such
> >> >> > > as a belt squealing. I have ruled that the area that the sound
> >seems
> >> >> > > to be coming from is near or around the distributor. I have
> >recently
> >> >> > > purchased a new distributor cap, and rotor button, plugs & wires
> >> >because
> >> >> > > it needs it 100 thousand miles replacement. I haven't installed
> >these
> >> >> > > yet because I haven't had time, but I am wondering if anyone has
> >heard
> >> >> > > of this and that it is the distributor going south? The car only
> >has
> >> >> > > 106,000 miles on it and I talked to a gent at a local parts
store
> >and
> >> >he
> >> >> > > said that that is really low mileage for the distributor to be
> >going
> >> >bad
> >> >> > > . Any suggestions or advice is really appreciated!!
> >> >> > > THANKS!
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Distributor noise?
Hi Jeff,
If you can get in there without getting your fingers clipped by the
fan or pulleys, run the belt over a bar of soap, it'll quit right down
if that's the problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> I am having a similar noise as you describe on the Wife's minivan, and I
> recently replaced the distributor. I was thinking I need to get her some new
> belts, but maybe my distributor is toast.
>
> I was putting off working on the belts because I am lazy and they take more
> effort to replace than the problem they present.
>
> If I took the belts off all together, and started the motor and heard the
> same noise, the only thing to consider at that point will be the
> distributor, right? (I wrote that before I read all of your post, then I
> scrolled down and noticed you came up with the same test. I think there will
> be two posts here on Monday to describe the results of taking the belt(s)
> off and checking for noise.)
>
> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> news:glsf409r5tn9gmeb86lvi7vpgsko5b7pmd@4ax.com...
> > Maybe he has misdiagnosed it, but given the fact he's had his head under
> the
> > hood, and you haven't, I'd believe him. :-)
> >
> > It's not the norm, but it's still very common to have a distributor make
> the
> > noise he's describing, many times well below the 100k mile mark.
> Rhythmic,
> > sometimes intermittent, sometimes louder, sometimes really quiet. "Bird
> chirp"
> > is a really good description, and if you ever heard one, you'd know
> immediately
> > that it's not a belt type squeak.
> >
> > BTW, even cheaper than a $5 belt, how about removing the belt altogether
> to see
> > if the noise is still there. If it is still there, you've eliminated a
> ----
> > load of possibilities and it didn't cost nuttin'!
> >
> >
> > In message <104f0rs7q1g1q69@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> >
> > >I hear you, but my take is that he has diagnosed incorrectly. The
> > >distributor shouldn't get dry bearings already. It may have been
> submerged,
> > >and this fact would change my position on the matter, and I would also go
> > >along with the distributor diagnosis. But, given the real world, the
> belt(s)
> > >and/or the alternator bearings are more likely to make a squealing noise
> > >than the distributor.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> > >news:f2gd40dr3lbjn4trqm928s77grkpri42oi@4ax.com.. .
> > >> The OP already said he'd narrowed it down to the distributor area, and
> > >it's
> > >> pretty common for them to squeak when they wear out, despite the fact
> that
> > >it's
> > >> never happened to you.
> > >>
> > >> It most likely needs a distributor.
> > >>
> > >> In message <104c5vumldvlc4e@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >While is certainly is within the realm of possibility, a new belt runs
> > >about
> > >> >$5, and a new distributor is going to be about $150. And, I drive an
> '81
> > >> >that had the original distributor as recently as 2000, so I tend to
> > >discount
> > >> >the distributor as the problem. (My distributor got replaced because I
> > >> >installed a fuel injection system, and it required a different kind of
> > >> >distributor, else I would still be using it.)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > >> >news:40453232_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > >> >> It is within the realm of possibility that the distributor is
> wearing
> > >out.
> > >> >> This will be confirmed when it siezes up and the vehicle ceases to
> > >> >operate.
> > >> >> If you know that the noise is coming from the distributor, I would
> > >replace
> > >> >> it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jerry
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:104a9hg2gdssn35@corp.supernews.com...
> > >> >> > You are describing a belt problem. It could be a bearing issue,
> most
> > >> >> notably
> > >> >> > with the idler pulley, but it is normally the belt that is making
> > >noise.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Since you ruled out that the belts were not bad, it leaves open
> the
> > >> >> > possibility that they are bad. (the whole double-negative thing
> ...)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "DaryRon Steffey" <dstef1605db@charter.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:104a4eh8ji43t40@corp.supernews.com...
> > >> >> > > I have have 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L, and one morning I
> went
> > >out
> > >> >to
> > >> >> > > start it up and it started and ran fine, but it started making a
> > >sort
> > >> >of
> > >> >> > > belt squeaking sound. I checked the belts and they are nice,
> new
> > >and
> > >> >> > > fresh looking. SO I ruled out that the belts were not bad. I
> drove
> > >> >the
> > >> >> > > vehicle for a week or so and the car didn't make the noise, but
> it
> > >has
> > >> >> > > now started making the noise again, but at times the noise is
> faint
> > >> >> > > something like a bird chirping, and it then has times that its
> loud
> > >> >such
> > >> >> > > as a belt squealing. I have ruled that the area that the sound
> > >seems
> > >> >> > > to be coming from is near or around the distributor. I have
> > >recently
> > >> >> > > purchased a new distributor cap, and rotor button, plugs & wires
> > >> >because
> > >> >> > > it needs it 100 thousand miles replacement. I haven't installed
> > >these
> > >> >> > > yet because I haven't had time, but I am wondering if anyone has
> > >heard
> > >> >> > > of this and that it is the distributor going south? The car only
> > >has
> > >> >> > > 106,000 miles on it and I talked to a gent at a local parts
> store
> > >and
> > >> >he
> > >> >> > > said that that is really low mileage for the distributor to be
> > >going
> > >> >bad
> > >> >> > > . Any suggestions or advice is really appreciated!!
> > >> >> > > THANKS!
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
If you can get in there without getting your fingers clipped by the
fan or pulleys, run the belt over a bar of soap, it'll quit right down
if that's the problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> I am having a similar noise as you describe on the Wife's minivan, and I
> recently replaced the distributor. I was thinking I need to get her some new
> belts, but maybe my distributor is toast.
>
> I was putting off working on the belts because I am lazy and they take more
> effort to replace than the problem they present.
>
> If I took the belts off all together, and started the motor and heard the
> same noise, the only thing to consider at that point will be the
> distributor, right? (I wrote that before I read all of your post, then I
> scrolled down and noticed you came up with the same test. I think there will
> be two posts here on Monday to describe the results of taking the belt(s)
> off and checking for noise.)
>
> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> news:glsf409r5tn9gmeb86lvi7vpgsko5b7pmd@4ax.com...
> > Maybe he has misdiagnosed it, but given the fact he's had his head under
> the
> > hood, and you haven't, I'd believe him. :-)
> >
> > It's not the norm, but it's still very common to have a distributor make
> the
> > noise he's describing, many times well below the 100k mile mark.
> Rhythmic,
> > sometimes intermittent, sometimes louder, sometimes really quiet. "Bird
> chirp"
> > is a really good description, and if you ever heard one, you'd know
> immediately
> > that it's not a belt type squeak.
> >
> > BTW, even cheaper than a $5 belt, how about removing the belt altogether
> to see
> > if the noise is still there. If it is still there, you've eliminated a
> ----
> > load of possibilities and it didn't cost nuttin'!
> >
> >
> > In message <104f0rs7q1g1q69@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> >
> > >I hear you, but my take is that he has diagnosed incorrectly. The
> > >distributor shouldn't get dry bearings already. It may have been
> submerged,
> > >and this fact would change my position on the matter, and I would also go
> > >along with the distributor diagnosis. But, given the real world, the
> belt(s)
> > >and/or the alternator bearings are more likely to make a squealing noise
> > >than the distributor.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> > >news:f2gd40dr3lbjn4trqm928s77grkpri42oi@4ax.com.. .
> > >> The OP already said he'd narrowed it down to the distributor area, and
> > >it's
> > >> pretty common for them to squeak when they wear out, despite the fact
> that
> > >it's
> > >> never happened to you.
> > >>
> > >> It most likely needs a distributor.
> > >>
> > >> In message <104c5vumldvlc4e@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >While is certainly is within the realm of possibility, a new belt runs
> > >about
> > >> >$5, and a new distributor is going to be about $150. And, I drive an
> '81
> > >> >that had the original distributor as recently as 2000, so I tend to
> > >discount
> > >> >the distributor as the problem. (My distributor got replaced because I
> > >> >installed a fuel injection system, and it required a different kind of
> > >> >distributor, else I would still be using it.)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > >> >news:40453232_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > >> >> It is within the realm of possibility that the distributor is
> wearing
> > >out.
> > >> >> This will be confirmed when it siezes up and the vehicle ceases to
> > >> >operate.
> > >> >> If you know that the noise is coming from the distributor, I would
> > >replace
> > >> >> it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jerry
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:104a9hg2gdssn35@corp.supernews.com...
> > >> >> > You are describing a belt problem. It could be a bearing issue,
> most
> > >> >> notably
> > >> >> > with the idler pulley, but it is normally the belt that is making
> > >noise.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Since you ruled out that the belts were not bad, it leaves open
> the
> > >> >> > possibility that they are bad. (the whole double-negative thing
> ...)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "DaryRon Steffey" <dstef1605db@charter.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:104a4eh8ji43t40@corp.supernews.com...
> > >> >> > > I have have 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L, and one morning I
> went
> > >out
> > >> >to
> > >> >> > > start it up and it started and ran fine, but it started making a
> > >sort
> > >> >of
> > >> >> > > belt squeaking sound. I checked the belts and they are nice,
> new
> > >and
> > >> >> > > fresh looking. SO I ruled out that the belts were not bad. I
> drove
> > >> >the
> > >> >> > > vehicle for a week or so and the car didn't make the noise, but
> it
> > >has
> > >> >> > > now started making the noise again, but at times the noise is
> faint
> > >> >> > > something like a bird chirping, and it then has times that its
> loud
> > >> >such
> > >> >> > > as a belt squealing. I have ruled that the area that the sound
> > >seems
> > >> >> > > to be coming from is near or around the distributor. I have
> > >recently
> > >> >> > > purchased a new distributor cap, and rotor button, plugs & wires
> > >> >because
> > >> >> > > it needs it 100 thousand miles replacement. I haven't installed
> > >these
> > >> >> > > yet because I haven't had time, but I am wondering if anyone has
> > >heard
> > >> >> > > of this and that it is the distributor going south? The car only
> > >has
> > >> >> > > 106,000 miles on it and I talked to a gent at a local parts
> store
> > >and
> > >> >he
> > >> >> > > said that that is really low mileage for the distributor to be
> > >going
> > >> >bad
> > >> >> > > . Any suggestions or advice is really appreciated!!
> > >> >> > > THANKS!
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
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Re: Distributor noise?
Hi Jeff,
If you can get in there without getting your fingers clipped by the
fan or pulleys, run the belt over a bar of soap, it'll quit right down
if that's the problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> I am having a similar noise as you describe on the Wife's minivan, and I
> recently replaced the distributor. I was thinking I need to get her some new
> belts, but maybe my distributor is toast.
>
> I was putting off working on the belts because I am lazy and they take more
> effort to replace than the problem they present.
>
> If I took the belts off all together, and started the motor and heard the
> same noise, the only thing to consider at that point will be the
> distributor, right? (I wrote that before I read all of your post, then I
> scrolled down and noticed you came up with the same test. I think there will
> be two posts here on Monday to describe the results of taking the belt(s)
> off and checking for noise.)
>
> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> news:glsf409r5tn9gmeb86lvi7vpgsko5b7pmd@4ax.com...
> > Maybe he has misdiagnosed it, but given the fact he's had his head under
> the
> > hood, and you haven't, I'd believe him. :-)
> >
> > It's not the norm, but it's still very common to have a distributor make
> the
> > noise he's describing, many times well below the 100k mile mark.
> Rhythmic,
> > sometimes intermittent, sometimes louder, sometimes really quiet. "Bird
> chirp"
> > is a really good description, and if you ever heard one, you'd know
> immediately
> > that it's not a belt type squeak.
> >
> > BTW, even cheaper than a $5 belt, how about removing the belt altogether
> to see
> > if the noise is still there. If it is still there, you've eliminated a
> ----
> > load of possibilities and it didn't cost nuttin'!
> >
> >
> > In message <104f0rs7q1g1q69@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> >
> > >I hear you, but my take is that he has diagnosed incorrectly. The
> > >distributor shouldn't get dry bearings already. It may have been
> submerged,
> > >and this fact would change my position on the matter, and I would also go
> > >along with the distributor diagnosis. But, given the real world, the
> belt(s)
> > >and/or the alternator bearings are more likely to make a squealing noise
> > >than the distributor.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> > >news:f2gd40dr3lbjn4trqm928s77grkpri42oi@4ax.com.. .
> > >> The OP already said he'd narrowed it down to the distributor area, and
> > >it's
> > >> pretty common for them to squeak when they wear out, despite the fact
> that
> > >it's
> > >> never happened to you.
> > >>
> > >> It most likely needs a distributor.
> > >>
> > >> In message <104c5vumldvlc4e@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >While is certainly is within the realm of possibility, a new belt runs
> > >about
> > >> >$5, and a new distributor is going to be about $150. And, I drive an
> '81
> > >> >that had the original distributor as recently as 2000, so I tend to
> > >discount
> > >> >the distributor as the problem. (My distributor got replaced because I
> > >> >installed a fuel injection system, and it required a different kind of
> > >> >distributor, else I would still be using it.)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > >> >news:40453232_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > >> >> It is within the realm of possibility that the distributor is
> wearing
> > >out.
> > >> >> This will be confirmed when it siezes up and the vehicle ceases to
> > >> >operate.
> > >> >> If you know that the noise is coming from the distributor, I would
> > >replace
> > >> >> it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jerry
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:104a9hg2gdssn35@corp.supernews.com...
> > >> >> > You are describing a belt problem. It could be a bearing issue,
> most
> > >> >> notably
> > >> >> > with the idler pulley, but it is normally the belt that is making
> > >noise.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Since you ruled out that the belts were not bad, it leaves open
> the
> > >> >> > possibility that they are bad. (the whole double-negative thing
> ...)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "DaryRon Steffey" <dstef1605db@charter.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:104a4eh8ji43t40@corp.supernews.com...
> > >> >> > > I have have 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L, and one morning I
> went
> > >out
> > >> >to
> > >> >> > > start it up and it started and ran fine, but it started making a
> > >sort
> > >> >of
> > >> >> > > belt squeaking sound. I checked the belts and they are nice,
> new
> > >and
> > >> >> > > fresh looking. SO I ruled out that the belts were not bad. I
> drove
> > >> >the
> > >> >> > > vehicle for a week or so and the car didn't make the noise, but
> it
> > >has
> > >> >> > > now started making the noise again, but at times the noise is
> faint
> > >> >> > > something like a bird chirping, and it then has times that its
> loud
> > >> >such
> > >> >> > > as a belt squealing. I have ruled that the area that the sound
> > >seems
> > >> >> > > to be coming from is near or around the distributor. I have
> > >recently
> > >> >> > > purchased a new distributor cap, and rotor button, plugs & wires
> > >> >because
> > >> >> > > it needs it 100 thousand miles replacement. I haven't installed
> > >these
> > >> >> > > yet because I haven't had time, but I am wondering if anyone has
> > >heard
> > >> >> > > of this and that it is the distributor going south? The car only
> > >has
> > >> >> > > 106,000 miles on it and I talked to a gent at a local parts
> store
> > >and
> > >> >he
> > >> >> > > said that that is really low mileage for the distributor to be
> > >going
> > >> >bad
> > >> >> > > . Any suggestions or advice is really appreciated!!
> > >> >> > > THANKS!
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
If you can get in there without getting your fingers clipped by the
fan or pulleys, run the belt over a bar of soap, it'll quit right down
if that's the problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> I am having a similar noise as you describe on the Wife's minivan, and I
> recently replaced the distributor. I was thinking I need to get her some new
> belts, but maybe my distributor is toast.
>
> I was putting off working on the belts because I am lazy and they take more
> effort to replace than the problem they present.
>
> If I took the belts off all together, and started the motor and heard the
> same noise, the only thing to consider at that point will be the
> distributor, right? (I wrote that before I read all of your post, then I
> scrolled down and noticed you came up with the same test. I think there will
> be two posts here on Monday to describe the results of taking the belt(s)
> off and checking for noise.)
>
> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> news:glsf409r5tn9gmeb86lvi7vpgsko5b7pmd@4ax.com...
> > Maybe he has misdiagnosed it, but given the fact he's had his head under
> the
> > hood, and you haven't, I'd believe him. :-)
> >
> > It's not the norm, but it's still very common to have a distributor make
> the
> > noise he's describing, many times well below the 100k mile mark.
> Rhythmic,
> > sometimes intermittent, sometimes louder, sometimes really quiet. "Bird
> chirp"
> > is a really good description, and if you ever heard one, you'd know
> immediately
> > that it's not a belt type squeak.
> >
> > BTW, even cheaper than a $5 belt, how about removing the belt altogether
> to see
> > if the noise is still there. If it is still there, you've eliminated a
> ----
> > load of possibilities and it didn't cost nuttin'!
> >
> >
> > In message <104f0rs7q1g1q69@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> >
> > >I hear you, but my take is that he has diagnosed incorrectly. The
> > >distributor shouldn't get dry bearings already. It may have been
> submerged,
> > >and this fact would change my position on the matter, and I would also go
> > >along with the distributor diagnosis. But, given the real world, the
> belt(s)
> > >and/or the alternator bearings are more likely to make a squealing noise
> > >than the distributor.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> > >news:f2gd40dr3lbjn4trqm928s77grkpri42oi@4ax.com.. .
> > >> The OP already said he'd narrowed it down to the distributor area, and
> > >it's
> > >> pretty common for them to squeak when they wear out, despite the fact
> that
> > >it's
> > >> never happened to you.
> > >>
> > >> It most likely needs a distributor.
> > >>
> > >> In message <104c5vumldvlc4e@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >While is certainly is within the realm of possibility, a new belt runs
> > >about
> > >> >$5, and a new distributor is going to be about $150. And, I drive an
> '81
> > >> >that had the original distributor as recently as 2000, so I tend to
> > >discount
> > >> >the distributor as the problem. (My distributor got replaced because I
> > >> >installed a fuel injection system, and it required a different kind of
> > >> >distributor, else I would still be using it.)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > >> >news:40453232_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > >> >> It is within the realm of possibility that the distributor is
> wearing
> > >out.
> > >> >> This will be confirmed when it siezes up and the vehicle ceases to
> > >> >operate.
> > >> >> If you know that the noise is coming from the distributor, I would
> > >replace
> > >> >> it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jerry
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:104a9hg2gdssn35@corp.supernews.com...
> > >> >> > You are describing a belt problem. It could be a bearing issue,
> most
> > >> >> notably
> > >> >> > with the idler pulley, but it is normally the belt that is making
> > >noise.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Since you ruled out that the belts were not bad, it leaves open
> the
> > >> >> > possibility that they are bad. (the whole double-negative thing
> ...)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "DaryRon Steffey" <dstef1605db@charter.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:104a4eh8ji43t40@corp.supernews.com...
> > >> >> > > I have have 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L, and one morning I
> went
> > >out
> > >> >to
> > >> >> > > start it up and it started and ran fine, but it started making a
> > >sort
> > >> >of
> > >> >> > > belt squeaking sound. I checked the belts and they are nice,
> new
> > >and
> > >> >> > > fresh looking. SO I ruled out that the belts were not bad. I
> drove
> > >> >the
> > >> >> > > vehicle for a week or so and the car didn't make the noise, but
> it
> > >has
> > >> >> > > now started making the noise again, but at times the noise is
> faint
> > >> >> > > something like a bird chirping, and it then has times that its
> loud
> > >> >such
> > >> >> > > as a belt squealing. I have ruled that the area that the sound
> > >seems
> > >> >> > > to be coming from is near or around the distributor. I have
> > >recently
> > >> >> > > purchased a new distributor cap, and rotor button, plugs & wires
> > >> >because
> > >> >> > > it needs it 100 thousand miles replacement. I haven't installed
> > >these
> > >> >> > > yet because I haven't had time, but I am wondering if anyone has
> > >heard
> > >> >> > > of this and that it is the distributor going south? The car only
> > >has
> > >> >> > > 106,000 miles on it and I talked to a gent at a local parts
> store
> > >and
> > >> >he
> > >> >> > > said that that is really low mileage for the distributor to be
> > >going
> > >> >bad
> > >> >> > > . Any suggestions or advice is really appreciated!!
> > >> >> > > THANKS!
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >