Differential bearing gone bad
11-01-2003, 01:14 PM
#41
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential bearing gone bad
Tell us how you really feel George. I had a Chrysler corporate 9.25"
differential go bad once, but I didn't turn it into a campaign against the
whole company.
I am thinking of getting the Warn full-floating conversion for "pos D35c" on
my YJ. What do you think? I don't do really serious off-roading, because I
don't have the time and I am not a nut like some of these guys, but I do go
over roads like Cinnamon Pass a of couple times a season and I had the
Wrangler down Poughkeepsie Gulch once, in the rain, without incident except
for a potato-sized rock wedged between my new Turbo City cat-back system and
the frame. (There was an old Scout up on blocks about halfway with some guy
trying to put the C-clip back. I told him I would call home for him once I
got back to Silverton and let folks know he was going to be late.)
Earle
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bo0qme02pa9@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech
what
> he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a curse
> and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas, it's
> designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ need
> to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bo0l58$16b68l$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Lots of things can cause a pinion bearing to go bad, and lots of "pos
> d35s"
> > are running up high miles without complaint. Statistically, the fact
that
> > you had one go bad doesn't mean a whole lot, and it doesn't predict why
> this
> > other one did.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:bnv8ld01pue@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > > What would that have to do with a POS D35 taking a dump (again)?
> > >
> > > I had one in a non-lifted '96 Cherokee Sport that toasted itself at
50k
> > > miles. All the thing ever did was run some trails and go to the store.
> > (Oh,
> > > went to Denver once, maybe that was it.)
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
> message
> > > news:bnv17r$16e58g$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Don't go off half cocked George. We don't even know if he has a
lift
> > kit
> > > > installed yet.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:bnuuag2m7h@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > > > > First thing to do, get it to a dealer for a proper diagnosis,
could
> be
> > > as
> > > > > simple as a wheel bearing. If you're the original owner and if
> you've
> > > > > maintained it well, call Chrysler Customer Assistance and demand
> they
> > > fix
> > > > it
> > > > > under what's called "Goodwill". The mileage is far too low for
that
> > kind
> > > > of
> > > > > failure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Soapbox: If this is actually the problem, and it's a Dana 35,
> > > > well....worst
> > > > > axle ever put under a Jeep. DC should be shot for continuing this
> > > plague,
> > > > > and they damn sure should have to pay for failures like this.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Spookshow" <spookshow@visi.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3fa2e9fa$0$41291$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com ...
> > > > > > No, my warranty ran out at 36K miles (I'm at 45K). I didn't opt
> for
> > an
> > > > > > extension because I've had 0 problems with it up to now, foolish
> me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:20031031170857.14837.00003983@mb-m03.aol.com...
> > > > > > > In article <3fa2d0ce$0$75899$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com>,
> > > > "Spookshow"
> > > > > > > <spookshow@visi.com> writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I have a 2001 Wrangler with 45K miles. Just had a bearing go
> bad
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > rear
> > > > > > > >differential ($650 to fix, ouch). Is this typical or is there
> > some
> > > > > > driving
> > > > > > > >habit or maintenance snafu I should watch out for that might
> have
> > > > > caused
> > > > > > it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My mechanic friend at the dealership told me the axles were
> > > assembled
> > > > in
> > > > > > Mexico
> > > > > > > and several batches were set up with incorrect pre-load during
> > that
> > > > > > timeframe.
> > > > > > > Grand Cherokees also. Did your power train warranty cover it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > > > > > > 89 Wrangler
> > > > > > > 00 Grand Cherokee
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
differential go bad once, but I didn't turn it into a campaign against the
whole company.
I am thinking of getting the Warn full-floating conversion for "pos D35c" on
my YJ. What do you think? I don't do really serious off-roading, because I
don't have the time and I am not a nut like some of these guys, but I do go
over roads like Cinnamon Pass a of couple times a season and I had the
Wrangler down Poughkeepsie Gulch once, in the rain, without incident except
for a potato-sized rock wedged between my new Turbo City cat-back system and
the frame. (There was an old Scout up on blocks about halfway with some guy
trying to put the C-clip back. I told him I would call home for him once I
got back to Silverton and let folks know he was going to be late.)
Earle
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bo0qme02pa9@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech
what
> he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a curse
> and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas, it's
> designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ need
> to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bo0l58$16b68l$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Lots of things can cause a pinion bearing to go bad, and lots of "pos
> d35s"
> > are running up high miles without complaint. Statistically, the fact
that
> > you had one go bad doesn't mean a whole lot, and it doesn't predict why
> this
> > other one did.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:bnv8ld01pue@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > > What would that have to do with a POS D35 taking a dump (again)?
> > >
> > > I had one in a non-lifted '96 Cherokee Sport that toasted itself at
50k
> > > miles. All the thing ever did was run some trails and go to the store.
> > (Oh,
> > > went to Denver once, maybe that was it.)
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
> message
> > > news:bnv17r$16e58g$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Don't go off half cocked George. We don't even know if he has a
lift
> > kit
> > > > installed yet.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:bnuuag2m7h@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > > > > First thing to do, get it to a dealer for a proper diagnosis,
could
> be
> > > as
> > > > > simple as a wheel bearing. If you're the original owner and if
> you've
> > > > > maintained it well, call Chrysler Customer Assistance and demand
> they
> > > fix
> > > > it
> > > > > under what's called "Goodwill". The mileage is far too low for
that
> > kind
> > > > of
> > > > > failure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Soapbox: If this is actually the problem, and it's a Dana 35,
> > > > well....worst
> > > > > axle ever put under a Jeep. DC should be shot for continuing this
> > > plague,
> > > > > and they damn sure should have to pay for failures like this.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Spookshow" <spookshow@visi.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3fa2e9fa$0$41291$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com ...
> > > > > > No, my warranty ran out at 36K miles (I'm at 45K). I didn't opt
> for
> > an
> > > > > > extension because I've had 0 problems with it up to now, foolish
> me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:20031031170857.14837.00003983@mb-m03.aol.com...
> > > > > > > In article <3fa2d0ce$0$75899$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com>,
> > > > "Spookshow"
> > > > > > > <spookshow@visi.com> writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I have a 2001 Wrangler with 45K miles. Just had a bearing go
> bad
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > rear
> > > > > > > >differential ($650 to fix, ouch). Is this typical or is there
> > some
> > > > > > driving
> > > > > > > >habit or maintenance snafu I should watch out for that might
> have
> > > > > caused
> > > > > > it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My mechanic friend at the dealership told me the axles were
> > > assembled
> > > > in
> > > > > > Mexico
> > > > > > > and several batches were set up with incorrect pre-load during
> > that
> > > > > > timeframe.
> > > > > > > Grand Cherokees also. Did your power train warranty cover it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > > > > > > 89 Wrangler
> > > > > > > 00 Grand Cherokee
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
11-01-2003, 01:14 PM
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential bearing gone bad
Tell us how you really feel George. I had a Chrysler corporate 9.25"
differential go bad once, but I didn't turn it into a campaign against the
whole company.
I am thinking of getting the Warn full-floating conversion for "pos D35c" on
my YJ. What do you think? I don't do really serious off-roading, because I
don't have the time and I am not a nut like some of these guys, but I do go
over roads like Cinnamon Pass a of couple times a season and I had the
Wrangler down Poughkeepsie Gulch once, in the rain, without incident except
for a potato-sized rock wedged between my new Turbo City cat-back system and
the frame. (There was an old Scout up on blocks about halfway with some guy
trying to put the C-clip back. I told him I would call home for him once I
got back to Silverton and let folks know he was going to be late.)
Earle
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bo0qme02pa9@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech
what
> he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a curse
> and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas, it's
> designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ need
> to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bo0l58$16b68l$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Lots of things can cause a pinion bearing to go bad, and lots of "pos
> d35s"
> > are running up high miles without complaint. Statistically, the fact
that
> > you had one go bad doesn't mean a whole lot, and it doesn't predict why
> this
> > other one did.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:bnv8ld01pue@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > > What would that have to do with a POS D35 taking a dump (again)?
> > >
> > > I had one in a non-lifted '96 Cherokee Sport that toasted itself at
50k
> > > miles. All the thing ever did was run some trails and go to the store.
> > (Oh,
> > > went to Denver once, maybe that was it.)
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
> message
> > > news:bnv17r$16e58g$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Don't go off half cocked George. We don't even know if he has a
lift
> > kit
> > > > installed yet.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:bnuuag2m7h@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > > > > First thing to do, get it to a dealer for a proper diagnosis,
could
> be
> > > as
> > > > > simple as a wheel bearing. If you're the original owner and if
> you've
> > > > > maintained it well, call Chrysler Customer Assistance and demand
> they
> > > fix
> > > > it
> > > > > under what's called "Goodwill". The mileage is far too low for
that
> > kind
> > > > of
> > > > > failure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Soapbox: If this is actually the problem, and it's a Dana 35,
> > > > well....worst
> > > > > axle ever put under a Jeep. DC should be shot for continuing this
> > > plague,
> > > > > and they damn sure should have to pay for failures like this.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Spookshow" <spookshow@visi.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3fa2e9fa$0$41291$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com ...
> > > > > > No, my warranty ran out at 36K miles (I'm at 45K). I didn't opt
> for
> > an
> > > > > > extension because I've had 0 problems with it up to now, foolish
> me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:20031031170857.14837.00003983@mb-m03.aol.com...
> > > > > > > In article <3fa2d0ce$0$75899$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com>,
> > > > "Spookshow"
> > > > > > > <spookshow@visi.com> writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I have a 2001 Wrangler with 45K miles. Just had a bearing go
> bad
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > rear
> > > > > > > >differential ($650 to fix, ouch). Is this typical or is there
> > some
> > > > > > driving
> > > > > > > >habit or maintenance snafu I should watch out for that might
> have
> > > > > caused
> > > > > > it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My mechanic friend at the dealership told me the axles were
> > > assembled
> > > > in
> > > > > > Mexico
> > > > > > > and several batches were set up with incorrect pre-load during
> > that
> > > > > > timeframe.
> > > > > > > Grand Cherokees also. Did your power train warranty cover it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > > > > > > 89 Wrangler
> > > > > > > 00 Grand Cherokee
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
differential go bad once, but I didn't turn it into a campaign against the
whole company.
I am thinking of getting the Warn full-floating conversion for "pos D35c" on
my YJ. What do you think? I don't do really serious off-roading, because I
don't have the time and I am not a nut like some of these guys, but I do go
over roads like Cinnamon Pass a of couple times a season and I had the
Wrangler down Poughkeepsie Gulch once, in the rain, without incident except
for a potato-sized rock wedged between my new Turbo City cat-back system and
the frame. (There was an old Scout up on blocks about halfway with some guy
trying to put the C-clip back. I told him I would call home for him once I
got back to Silverton and let folks know he was going to be late.)
Earle
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bo0qme02pa9@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech
what
> he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a curse
> and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas, it's
> designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ need
> to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bo0l58$16b68l$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Lots of things can cause a pinion bearing to go bad, and lots of "pos
> d35s"
> > are running up high miles without complaint. Statistically, the fact
that
> > you had one go bad doesn't mean a whole lot, and it doesn't predict why
> this
> > other one did.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:bnv8ld01pue@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > > What would that have to do with a POS D35 taking a dump (again)?
> > >
> > > I had one in a non-lifted '96 Cherokee Sport that toasted itself at
50k
> > > miles. All the thing ever did was run some trails and go to the store.
> > (Oh,
> > > went to Denver once, maybe that was it.)
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
> message
> > > news:bnv17r$16e58g$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Don't go off half cocked George. We don't even know if he has a
lift
> > kit
> > > > installed yet.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:bnuuag2m7h@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > > > > First thing to do, get it to a dealer for a proper diagnosis,
could
> be
> > > as
> > > > > simple as a wheel bearing. If you're the original owner and if
> you've
> > > > > maintained it well, call Chrysler Customer Assistance and demand
> they
> > > fix
> > > > it
> > > > > under what's called "Goodwill". The mileage is far too low for
that
> > kind
> > > > of
> > > > > failure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Soapbox: If this is actually the problem, and it's a Dana 35,
> > > > well....worst
> > > > > axle ever put under a Jeep. DC should be shot for continuing this
> > > plague,
> > > > > and they damn sure should have to pay for failures like this.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Spookshow" <spookshow@visi.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3fa2e9fa$0$41291$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com ...
> > > > > > No, my warranty ran out at 36K miles (I'm at 45K). I didn't opt
> for
> > an
> > > > > > extension because I've had 0 problems with it up to now, foolish
> me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:20031031170857.14837.00003983@mb-m03.aol.com...
> > > > > > > In article <3fa2d0ce$0$75899$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com>,
> > > > "Spookshow"
> > > > > > > <spookshow@visi.com> writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I have a 2001 Wrangler with 45K miles. Just had a bearing go
> bad
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > rear
> > > > > > > >differential ($650 to fix, ouch). Is this typical or is there
> > some
> > > > > > driving
> > > > > > > >habit or maintenance snafu I should watch out for that might
> have
> > > > > caused
> > > > > > it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My mechanic friend at the dealership told me the axles were
> > > assembled
> > > > in
> > > > > > Mexico
> > > > > > > and several batches were set up with incorrect pre-load during
> > that
> > > > > > timeframe.
> > > > > > > Grand Cherokees also. Did your power train warranty cover it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > > > > > > 89 Wrangler
> > > > > > > 00 Grand Cherokee
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
11-01-2003, 01:14 PM
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential bearing gone bad
Tell us how you really feel George. I had a Chrysler corporate 9.25"
differential go bad once, but I didn't turn it into a campaign against the
whole company.
I am thinking of getting the Warn full-floating conversion for "pos D35c" on
my YJ. What do you think? I don't do really serious off-roading, because I
don't have the time and I am not a nut like some of these guys, but I do go
over roads like Cinnamon Pass a of couple times a season and I had the
Wrangler down Poughkeepsie Gulch once, in the rain, without incident except
for a potato-sized rock wedged between my new Turbo City cat-back system and
the frame. (There was an old Scout up on blocks about halfway with some guy
trying to put the C-clip back. I told him I would call home for him once I
got back to Silverton and let folks know he was going to be late.)
Earle
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bo0qme02pa9@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech
what
> he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a curse
> and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas, it's
> designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ need
> to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bo0l58$16b68l$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Lots of things can cause a pinion bearing to go bad, and lots of "pos
> d35s"
> > are running up high miles without complaint. Statistically, the fact
that
> > you had one go bad doesn't mean a whole lot, and it doesn't predict why
> this
> > other one did.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:bnv8ld01pue@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > > What would that have to do with a POS D35 taking a dump (again)?
> > >
> > > I had one in a non-lifted '96 Cherokee Sport that toasted itself at
50k
> > > miles. All the thing ever did was run some trails and go to the store.
> > (Oh,
> > > went to Denver once, maybe that was it.)
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
> message
> > > news:bnv17r$16e58g$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Don't go off half cocked George. We don't even know if he has a
lift
> > kit
> > > > installed yet.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:bnuuag2m7h@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > > > > First thing to do, get it to a dealer for a proper diagnosis,
could
> be
> > > as
> > > > > simple as a wheel bearing. If you're the original owner and if
> you've
> > > > > maintained it well, call Chrysler Customer Assistance and demand
> they
> > > fix
> > > > it
> > > > > under what's called "Goodwill". The mileage is far too low for
that
> > kind
> > > > of
> > > > > failure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Soapbox: If this is actually the problem, and it's a Dana 35,
> > > > well....worst
> > > > > axle ever put under a Jeep. DC should be shot for continuing this
> > > plague,
> > > > > and they damn sure should have to pay for failures like this.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Spookshow" <spookshow@visi.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3fa2e9fa$0$41291$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com ...
> > > > > > No, my warranty ran out at 36K miles (I'm at 45K). I didn't opt
> for
> > an
> > > > > > extension because I've had 0 problems with it up to now, foolish
> me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:20031031170857.14837.00003983@mb-m03.aol.com...
> > > > > > > In article <3fa2d0ce$0$75899$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com>,
> > > > "Spookshow"
> > > > > > > <spookshow@visi.com> writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I have a 2001 Wrangler with 45K miles. Just had a bearing go
> bad
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > rear
> > > > > > > >differential ($650 to fix, ouch). Is this typical or is there
> > some
> > > > > > driving
> > > > > > > >habit or maintenance snafu I should watch out for that might
> have
> > > > > caused
> > > > > > it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My mechanic friend at the dealership told me the axles were
> > > assembled
> > > > in
> > > > > > Mexico
> > > > > > > and several batches were set up with incorrect pre-load during
> > that
> > > > > > timeframe.
> > > > > > > Grand Cherokees also. Did your power train warranty cover it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > > > > > > 89 Wrangler
> > > > > > > 00 Grand Cherokee
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
differential go bad once, but I didn't turn it into a campaign against the
whole company.
I am thinking of getting the Warn full-floating conversion for "pos D35c" on
my YJ. What do you think? I don't do really serious off-roading, because I
don't have the time and I am not a nut like some of these guys, but I do go
over roads like Cinnamon Pass a of couple times a season and I had the
Wrangler down Poughkeepsie Gulch once, in the rain, without incident except
for a potato-sized rock wedged between my new Turbo City cat-back system and
the frame. (There was an old Scout up on blocks about halfway with some guy
trying to put the C-clip back. I told him I would call home for him once I
got back to Silverton and let folks know he was going to be late.)
Earle
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bo0qme02pa9@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech
what
> he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a curse
> and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas, it's
> designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ need
> to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bo0l58$16b68l$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Lots of things can cause a pinion bearing to go bad, and lots of "pos
> d35s"
> > are running up high miles without complaint. Statistically, the fact
that
> > you had one go bad doesn't mean a whole lot, and it doesn't predict why
> this
> > other one did.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:bnv8ld01pue@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > > What would that have to do with a POS D35 taking a dump (again)?
> > >
> > > I had one in a non-lifted '96 Cherokee Sport that toasted itself at
50k
> > > miles. All the thing ever did was run some trails and go to the store.
> > (Oh,
> > > went to Denver once, maybe that was it.)
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
> message
> > > news:bnv17r$16e58g$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Don't go off half cocked George. We don't even know if he has a
lift
> > kit
> > > > installed yet.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:bnuuag2m7h@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > > > > First thing to do, get it to a dealer for a proper diagnosis,
could
> be
> > > as
> > > > > simple as a wheel bearing. If you're the original owner and if
> you've
> > > > > maintained it well, call Chrysler Customer Assistance and demand
> they
> > > fix
> > > > it
> > > > > under what's called "Goodwill". The mileage is far too low for
that
> > kind
> > > > of
> > > > > failure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Soapbox: If this is actually the problem, and it's a Dana 35,
> > > > well....worst
> > > > > axle ever put under a Jeep. DC should be shot for continuing this
> > > plague,
> > > > > and they damn sure should have to pay for failures like this.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Spookshow" <spookshow@visi.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3fa2e9fa$0$41291$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com ...
> > > > > > No, my warranty ran out at 36K miles (I'm at 45K). I didn't opt
> for
> > an
> > > > > > extension because I've had 0 problems with it up to now, foolish
> me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:20031031170857.14837.00003983@mb-m03.aol.com...
> > > > > > > In article <3fa2d0ce$0$75899$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com>,
> > > > "Spookshow"
> > > > > > > <spookshow@visi.com> writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I have a 2001 Wrangler with 45K miles. Just had a bearing go
> bad
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > rear
> > > > > > > >differential ($650 to fix, ouch). Is this typical or is there
> > some
> > > > > > driving
> > > > > > > >habit or maintenance snafu I should watch out for that might
> have
> > > > > caused
> > > > > > it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My mechanic friend at the dealership told me the axles were
> > > assembled
> > > > in
> > > > > > Mexico
> > > > > > > and several batches were set up with incorrect pre-load during
> > that
> > > > > > timeframe.
> > > > > > > Grand Cherokees also. Did your power train warranty cover it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > > > > > > 89 Wrangler
> > > > > > > 00 Grand Cherokee
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
11-01-2003, 03:16 PM
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential bearing gone bad
So many people post here once, asking why the their 35c went bad.
Bring out all these Wannabees testify to it's strength, as if it was
their mother that being put down. No other differential by any other
manufacturer breaks down with less than hundred thousand miles, no
matter how abused. Except, for the Ford nine inchers during the muscle
err.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech what
> he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a curse
> and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas, it's
> designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ need
> to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
Bring out all these Wannabees testify to it's strength, as if it was
their mother that being put down. No other differential by any other
manufacturer breaks down with less than hundred thousand miles, no
matter how abused. Except, for the Ford nine inchers during the muscle
err.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech what
> he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a curse
> and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas, it's
> designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ need
> to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
11-01-2003, 03:16 PM
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential bearing gone bad
So many people post here once, asking why the their 35c went bad.
Bring out all these Wannabees testify to it's strength, as if it was
their mother that being put down. No other differential by any other
manufacturer breaks down with less than hundred thousand miles, no
matter how abused. Except, for the Ford nine inchers during the muscle
err.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech what
> he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a curse
> and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas, it's
> designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ need
> to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
Bring out all these Wannabees testify to it's strength, as if it was
their mother that being put down. No other differential by any other
manufacturer breaks down with less than hundred thousand miles, no
matter how abused. Except, for the Ford nine inchers during the muscle
err.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech what
> he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a curse
> and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas, it's
> designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ need
> to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
11-01-2003, 03:16 PM
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential bearing gone bad
So many people post here once, asking why the their 35c went bad.
Bring out all these Wannabees testify to it's strength, as if it was
their mother that being put down. No other differential by any other
manufacturer breaks down with less than hundred thousand miles, no
matter how abused. Except, for the Ford nine inchers during the muscle
err.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech what
> he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a curse
> and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas, it's
> designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ need
> to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
Bring out all these Wannabees testify to it's strength, as if it was
their mother that being put down. No other differential by any other
manufacturer breaks down with less than hundred thousand miles, no
matter how abused. Except, for the Ford nine inchers during the muscle
err.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech what
> he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a curse
> and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas, it's
> designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ need
> to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
11-01-2003, 06:24 PM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential bearing gone bad
So what do you think Bill? Should I put a Warn full floating axle kit in
this thing ('95 YJ), or wait until it blows and get something bigger?
Remember, I still have the four banger and it shows no signs of giving up.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA41484.837CC1FC@***.net...
> So many people post here once, asking why the their 35c went bad.
> Bring out all these Wannabees testify to it's strength, as if it was
> their mother that being put down. No other differential by any other
> manufacturer breaks down with less than hundred thousand miles, no
> matter how abused. Except, for the Ford nine inchers during the muscle
> err.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
> >
> > Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> > D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech
what
> > he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a
curse
> > and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas,
it's
> > designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ
need
> > to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
this thing ('95 YJ), or wait until it blows and get something bigger?
Remember, I still have the four banger and it shows no signs of giving up.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA41484.837CC1FC@***.net...
> So many people post here once, asking why the their 35c went bad.
> Bring out all these Wannabees testify to it's strength, as if it was
> their mother that being put down. No other differential by any other
> manufacturer breaks down with less than hundred thousand miles, no
> matter how abused. Except, for the Ford nine inchers during the muscle
> err.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
> >
> > Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> > D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech
what
> > he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a
curse
> > and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas,
it's
> > designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ
need
> > to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
11-01-2003, 06:24 PM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential bearing gone bad
So what do you think Bill? Should I put a Warn full floating axle kit in
this thing ('95 YJ), or wait until it blows and get something bigger?
Remember, I still have the four banger and it shows no signs of giving up.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA41484.837CC1FC@***.net...
> So many people post here once, asking why the their 35c went bad.
> Bring out all these Wannabees testify to it's strength, as if it was
> their mother that being put down. No other differential by any other
> manufacturer breaks down with less than hundred thousand miles, no
> matter how abused. Except, for the Ford nine inchers during the muscle
> err.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
> >
> > Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> > D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech
what
> > he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a
curse
> > and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas,
it's
> > designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ
need
> > to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
this thing ('95 YJ), or wait until it blows and get something bigger?
Remember, I still have the four banger and it shows no signs of giving up.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA41484.837CC1FC@***.net...
> So many people post here once, asking why the their 35c went bad.
> Bring out all these Wannabees testify to it's strength, as if it was
> their mother that being put down. No other differential by any other
> manufacturer breaks down with less than hundred thousand miles, no
> matter how abused. Except, for the Ford nine inchers during the muscle
> err.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
> >
> > Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> > D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech
what
> > he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a
curse
> > and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas,
it's
> > designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ
need
> > to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
11-01-2003, 06:24 PM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential bearing gone bad
So what do you think Bill? Should I put a Warn full floating axle kit in
this thing ('95 YJ), or wait until it blows and get something bigger?
Remember, I still have the four banger and it shows no signs of giving up.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA41484.837CC1FC@***.net...
> So many people post here once, asking why the their 35c went bad.
> Bring out all these Wannabees testify to it's strength, as if it was
> their mother that being put down. No other differential by any other
> manufacturer breaks down with less than hundred thousand miles, no
> matter how abused. Except, for the Ford nine inchers during the muscle
> err.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
> >
> > Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> > D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech
what
> > he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a
curse
> > and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas,
it's
> > designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ
need
> > to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
this thing ('95 YJ), or wait until it blows and get something bigger?
Remember, I still have the four banger and it shows no signs of giving up.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA41484.837CC1FC@***.net...
> So many people post here once, asking why the their 35c went bad.
> Bring out all these Wannabees testify to it's strength, as if it was
> their mother that being put down. No other differential by any other
> manufacturer breaks down with less than hundred thousand miles, no
> matter how abused. Except, for the Ford nine inchers during the muscle
> err.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
> >
> > Earle, the roads and trails are littered with broken, low mileage "POS"
> > D35s. My situation was just a typical illustration. Ask ANY Jeep tech
what
> > he thinks of the D35 and you'll get the same answer. The thing is a
curse
> > and needs to be consigned to the trash neap of bad automotive ideas,
it's
> > designers and the finance morons who put it under the TJ, XJ, YJ & ZJ
need
> > to be flogged and have their pensions cut in half!
11-01-2003, 06:34 PM
#50
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential bearing gone bad
Hi Earle,
It's hard to say with your four banger. If I were in your position,
well, I wouldn't be you your position. ;-) Isn't there a saying like,
don't spend good money after bad? Maybe, keep your eyes and hears open
for a 44. But, if you wait for it to break, you haven't lost anything
the 35s have no salvage value.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> So what do you think Bill? Should I put a Warn full floating axle kit in
> this thing ('95 YJ), or wait until it blows and get something bigger?
> Remember, I still have the four banger and it shows no signs of giving up.
>
> Earle
It's hard to say with your four banger. If I were in your position,
well, I wouldn't be you your position. ;-) Isn't there a saying like,
don't spend good money after bad? Maybe, keep your eyes and hears open
for a 44. But, if you wait for it to break, you haven't lost anything
the 35s have no salvage value.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> So what do you think Bill? Should I put a Warn full floating axle kit in
> this thing ('95 YJ), or wait until it blows and get something bigger?
> Remember, I still have the four banger and it shows no signs of giving up.
>
> Earle