Diesel Liberty
04-05-2006, 04:07 AM
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Re: Diesel Liberty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> They are too dirty to be sold in California:
> http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Scary part is, the EURO4/EURO5 standard Diesels, when tuned and running
properly, are cleaner than a well-tuned petrol engine.
04-05-2006, 04:07 AM
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Re: Diesel Liberty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> They are too dirty to be sold in California:
> http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Scary part is, the EURO4/EURO5 standard Diesels, when tuned and running
properly, are cleaner than a well-tuned petrol engine.
04-05-2006, 04:07 AM
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Re: Diesel Liberty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> They are too dirty to be sold in California:
> http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Scary part is, the EURO4/EURO5 standard Diesels, when tuned and running
properly, are cleaner than a well-tuned petrol engine.
04-05-2006, 06:51 AM
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Re: Diesel Liberty
MotorWeek did a bit on it a few weeks back. Basically they said that
the increased mpg is negated by the higher cost of diesel (vs regular
unleaded).
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
wrote:
>Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
>The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
>in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Mark
the increased mpg is negated by the higher cost of diesel (vs regular
unleaded).
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
wrote:
>Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
>The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
>in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Mark
04-05-2006, 06:51 AM
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Re: Diesel Liberty
MotorWeek did a bit on it a few weeks back. Basically they said that
the increased mpg is negated by the higher cost of diesel (vs regular
unleaded).
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
wrote:
>Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
>The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
>in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Mark
the increased mpg is negated by the higher cost of diesel (vs regular
unleaded).
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
wrote:
>Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
>The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
>in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Mark
04-05-2006, 06:51 AM
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Re: Diesel Liberty
MotorWeek did a bit on it a few weeks back. Basically they said that
the increased mpg is negated by the higher cost of diesel (vs regular
unleaded).
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
wrote:
>Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
>The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
>in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Mark
the increased mpg is negated by the higher cost of diesel (vs regular
unleaded).
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
wrote:
>Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
>The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
>in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Mark
04-05-2006, 07:03 AM
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Re: Diesel Liberty
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:05:12 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> You being in Leeds, England with the rest of the soot cover
>buildings. How's that black lung cough of yours?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Close, fortunately I live in a more rural area and most of the soot
producing mills have closed down and all the mines have closed.
But there are still a hell of a lot of soot coloured buildings and I
often wish I was back home in Scotland :-)
I tend not to do the flag waving thing ;-)
Ewan Scott
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> You being in Leeds, England with the rest of the soot cover
>buildings. How's that black lung cough of yours?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Close, fortunately I live in a more rural area and most of the soot
producing mills have closed down and all the mines have closed.
But there are still a hell of a lot of soot coloured buildings and I
often wish I was back home in Scotland :-)
I tend not to do the flag waving thing ;-)
Ewan Scott
04-05-2006, 07:03 AM
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Re: Diesel Liberty
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:05:12 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> You being in Leeds, England with the rest of the soot cover
>buildings. How's that black lung cough of yours?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Close, fortunately I live in a more rural area and most of the soot
producing mills have closed down and all the mines have closed.
But there are still a hell of a lot of soot coloured buildings and I
often wish I was back home in Scotland :-)
I tend not to do the flag waving thing ;-)
Ewan Scott
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> You being in Leeds, England with the rest of the soot cover
>buildings. How's that black lung cough of yours?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Close, fortunately I live in a more rural area and most of the soot
producing mills have closed down and all the mines have closed.
But there are still a hell of a lot of soot coloured buildings and I
often wish I was back home in Scotland :-)
I tend not to do the flag waving thing ;-)
Ewan Scott
04-05-2006, 07:03 AM
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Re: Diesel Liberty
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:05:12 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> You being in Leeds, England with the rest of the soot cover
>buildings. How's that black lung cough of yours?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Close, fortunately I live in a more rural area and most of the soot
producing mills have closed down and all the mines have closed.
But there are still a hell of a lot of soot coloured buildings and I
often wish I was back home in Scotland :-)
I tend not to do the flag waving thing ;-)
Ewan Scott
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> You being in Leeds, England with the rest of the soot cover
>buildings. How's that black lung cough of yours?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Close, fortunately I live in a more rural area and most of the soot
producing mills have closed down and all the mines have closed.
But there are still a hell of a lot of soot coloured buildings and I
often wish I was back home in Scotland :-)
I tend not to do the flag waving thing ;-)
Ewan Scott
04-05-2006, 09:24 AM
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Re: Diesel Liberty
I don't know what the diesels get but my 05 Libby was getting 16.4 avg,
running mid grade when I traded it in.
Only trouble I had with it (a WHOLE 9k miles) was the cd player.
It's a nice little rig so long as you're SURE it's what you want.
(that there my friend was the voice of experience you just heard)
Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rubicon
<eric@rr.com> wrote in message
news:328732174di0frdjkdjfprln3hrglmemgh@4ax.com...
: MotorWeek did a bit on it a few weeks back. Basically they said that
: the increased mpg is negated by the higher cost of diesel (vs regular
: unleaded).
:
: On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
: wrote:
:
: >Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
: >The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
: >in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
: >
: >Thanks!
: >
: >Mark
running mid grade when I traded it in.
Only trouble I had with it (a WHOLE 9k miles) was the cd player.
It's a nice little rig so long as you're SURE it's what you want.
(that there my friend was the voice of experience you just heard)
Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rubicon
<eric@rr.com> wrote in message
news:328732174di0frdjkdjfprln3hrglmemgh@4ax.com...
: MotorWeek did a bit on it a few weeks back. Basically they said that
: the increased mpg is negated by the higher cost of diesel (vs regular
: unleaded).
:
: On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
: wrote:
:
: >Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
: >The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
: >in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
: >
: >Thanks!
: >
: >Mark