Diesel engines: better low-end torque?
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Re: Diesel engines: better low-end torque?
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> And they're all Mercedes like the poster said?
Yup, they were all Mercedes. While Mercedes aims mostly at the high
overseas they have versions of their cars with less equipment (at lower
cost) at home. I distincly remember that they were leading the list of
economic cars with some models (taking price/depreciation, servicing,
consumption, etc. in account).
Today this is much less so as real values count less and fashion and
trends drives the buying decisions of consumers.
Markus
> And they're all Mercedes like the poster said?
Yup, they were all Mercedes. While Mercedes aims mostly at the high
overseas they have versions of their cars with less equipment (at lower
cost) at home. I distincly remember that they were leading the list of
economic cars with some models (taking price/depreciation, servicing,
consumption, etc. in account).
Today this is much less so as real values count less and fashion and
trends drives the buying decisions of consumers.
Markus
#122
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Re: Diesel engines: better low-end torque?
Like a Ford over there would be much more expensive than your
Mercedes, probably more reliable, too
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Markus Baertschi wrote:
>
> Yup, they were all Mercedes. While Mercedes aims mostly at the high
> overseas they have versions of their cars with less equipment (at lower
> cost) at home. I distincly remember that they were leading the list of
> economic cars with some models (taking price/depreciation, servicing,
> consumption, etc. in account).
>
> Today this is much less so as real values count less and fashion and
> trends drives the buying decisions of consumers.
>
> Markus
Mercedes, probably more reliable, too
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Markus Baertschi wrote:
>
> Yup, they were all Mercedes. While Mercedes aims mostly at the high
> overseas they have versions of their cars with less equipment (at lower
> cost) at home. I distincly remember that they were leading the list of
> economic cars with some models (taking price/depreciation, servicing,
> consumption, etc. in account).
>
> Today this is much less so as real values count less and fashion and
> trends drives the buying decisions of consumers.
>
> Markus
#123
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Re: Diesel engines: better low-end torque?
Like a Ford over there would be much more expensive than your
Mercedes, probably more reliable, too
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Markus Baertschi wrote:
>
> Yup, they were all Mercedes. While Mercedes aims mostly at the high
> overseas they have versions of their cars with less equipment (at lower
> cost) at home. I distincly remember that they were leading the list of
> economic cars with some models (taking price/depreciation, servicing,
> consumption, etc. in account).
>
> Today this is much less so as real values count less and fashion and
> trends drives the buying decisions of consumers.
>
> Markus
Mercedes, probably more reliable, too
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Markus Baertschi wrote:
>
> Yup, they were all Mercedes. While Mercedes aims mostly at the high
> overseas they have versions of their cars with less equipment (at lower
> cost) at home. I distincly remember that they were leading the list of
> economic cars with some models (taking price/depreciation, servicing,
> consumption, etc. in account).
>
> Today this is much less so as real values count less and fashion and
> trends drives the buying decisions of consumers.
>
> Markus
#124
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Re: Diesel engines: better low-end torque?
Like a Ford over there would be much more expensive than your
Mercedes, probably more reliable, too
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Markus Baertschi wrote:
>
> Yup, they were all Mercedes. While Mercedes aims mostly at the high
> overseas they have versions of their cars with less equipment (at lower
> cost) at home. I distincly remember that they were leading the list of
> economic cars with some models (taking price/depreciation, servicing,
> consumption, etc. in account).
>
> Today this is much less so as real values count less and fashion and
> trends drives the buying decisions of consumers.
>
> Markus
Mercedes, probably more reliable, too
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Markus Baertschi wrote:
>
> Yup, they were all Mercedes. While Mercedes aims mostly at the high
> overseas they have versions of their cars with less equipment (at lower
> cost) at home. I distincly remember that they were leading the list of
> economic cars with some models (taking price/depreciation, servicing,
> consumption, etc. in account).
>
> Today this is much less so as real values count less and fashion and
> trends drives the buying decisions of consumers.
>
> Markus
#125
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Re: Diesel engines: better low-end torque?
Like a Ford over there would be much more expensive than your
Mercedes, probably more reliable, too
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Markus Baertschi wrote:
>
> Yup, they were all Mercedes. While Mercedes aims mostly at the high
> overseas they have versions of their cars with less equipment (at lower
> cost) at home. I distincly remember that they were leading the list of
> economic cars with some models (taking price/depreciation, servicing,
> consumption, etc. in account).
>
> Today this is much less so as real values count less and fashion and
> trends drives the buying decisions of consumers.
>
> Markus
Mercedes, probably more reliable, too
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Markus Baertschi wrote:
>
> Yup, they were all Mercedes. While Mercedes aims mostly at the high
> overseas they have versions of their cars with less equipment (at lower
> cost) at home. I distincly remember that they were leading the list of
> economic cars with some models (taking price/depreciation, servicing,
> consumption, etc. in account).
>
> Today this is much less so as real values count less and fashion and
> trends drives the buying decisions of consumers.
>
> Markus
#126
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Re: Diesel engines: better low-end torque?
I've lived in Germany for a year and a half, where have you travel
in America?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Pet Lover wrote:
>
> Perhaps when your air is a clean as it is in Europe you will have the right
> to be critical of the air quality in Germany, who run far more deisels that
> the US
in America?
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Pet Lover wrote:
>
> Perhaps when your air is a clean as it is in Europe you will have the right
> to be critical of the air quality in Germany, who run far more deisels that
> the US
#127
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Re: Diesel engines: better low-end torque?
I've lived in Germany for a year and a half, where have you travel
in America?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Pet Lover wrote:
>
> Perhaps when your air is a clean as it is in Europe you will have the right
> to be critical of the air quality in Germany, who run far more deisels that
> the US
in America?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Pet Lover wrote:
>
> Perhaps when your air is a clean as it is in Europe you will have the right
> to be critical of the air quality in Germany, who run far more deisels that
> the US
#128
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Re: Diesel engines: better low-end torque?
I've lived in Germany for a year and a half, where have you travel
in America?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Pet Lover wrote:
>
> Perhaps when your air is a clean as it is in Europe you will have the right
> to be critical of the air quality in Germany, who run far more deisels that
> the US
in America?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Pet Lover wrote:
>
> Perhaps when your air is a clean as it is in Europe you will have the right
> to be critical of the air quality in Germany, who run far more deisels that
> the US
#129
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Re: Diesel engines: better low-end torque?
I've lived in Germany for a year and a half, where have you travel
in America?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Pet Lover wrote:
>
> Perhaps when your air is a clean as it is in Europe you will have the right
> to be critical of the air quality in Germany, who run far more deisels that
> the US
in America?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Pet Lover wrote:
>
> Perhaps when your air is a clean as it is in Europe you will have the right
> to be critical of the air quality in Germany, who run far more deisels that
> the US
#130
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Re: Diesel engines: better low-end torque?
> > In Germany maybe, where they don't care how dirty the air is. Where
> > the Black Forest is truly black with death. But, in the the U.S. of A.
> > they're gas driven old Fords and Chevys, and a very few mini vans, count
> > them at: http://www.bionicsonics.com/
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Perhaps when your air is a clean as it is in Europe you will have the right
> to be critical of the air quality in Germany, who run far more deisels that
> the US
Diesels are actually cleaner because the total volume of pollutants
are less, because less fuel is burned. The EU pollution standards are
far more sensible than the US-49 state or California-because they aim
to reduce total CO2 emissions and HC and Co turn into CO2 eventually
anyway.
Propane or natural gas, really, are the cleanest fuels out there, and
it's smart to make cabs run on it. But Diesel would be an improvement
over gas.
In my area the most popular cab is a Lincoln Town Car. The fuel burn
is high but cabbies like the reliability and the purchase price-they
buy used ones cheap, often from old people's estates, or
crash/corpse/flood cars, send them to Maaco, and run'em into the
ground. Usually the converters are punched out.
> > the Black Forest is truly black with death. But, in the the U.S. of A.
> > they're gas driven old Fords and Chevys, and a very few mini vans, count
> > them at: http://www.bionicsonics.com/
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Perhaps when your air is a clean as it is in Europe you will have the right
> to be critical of the air quality in Germany, who run far more deisels that
> the US
Diesels are actually cleaner because the total volume of pollutants
are less, because less fuel is burned. The EU pollution standards are
far more sensible than the US-49 state or California-because they aim
to reduce total CO2 emissions and HC and Co turn into CO2 eventually
anyway.
Propane or natural gas, really, are the cleanest fuels out there, and
it's smart to make cabs run on it. But Diesel would be an improvement
over gas.
In my area the most popular cab is a Lincoln Town Car. The fuel burn
is high but cabbies like the reliability and the purchase price-they
buy used ones cheap, often from old people's estates, or
crash/corpse/flood cars, send them to Maaco, and run'em into the
ground. Usually the converters are punched out.