William Oliveri

I talked to the engine rebuilder who I told you races jeeps and is into
jeeps. Anyway, he said he has just had to live with it on two different
jeeps. He said he took his to a guy who got it all the shutters out
(flywheel or clutch voodoo or something) but then later it just came back.

I talked to the R&R guy and he said the flywheel was in perfect condition
when he installed it. He wasn't shy about telling me I needed something
when it was warn out (like the ring gear on the flywheel for example).

So, at this point I'll investigate further from different sources and see
what develops.

Thanks,

Bill


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40C4E38E.EB7457BD@sympatico.ca...
> My CJ7 will do that if I ride the clutch any at all. It can happen in
> stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
> a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
>
> I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
> two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
> right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
>
> The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
> time too.
>
> Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
> use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
> occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
violent
> > vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> > actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher
and
> > get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a
new
> > clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
> >
> > How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
> >
> > I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how
it
> > responds using the front drive shaft.
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas.
> >
> > Bill

William Oliveri

I talked to the engine rebuilder who I told you races jeeps and is into
jeeps. Anyway, he said he has just had to live with it on two different
jeeps. He said he took his to a guy who got it all the shutters out
(flywheel or clutch voodoo or something) but then later it just came back.

I talked to the R&R guy and he said the flywheel was in perfect condition
when he installed it. He wasn't shy about telling me I needed something
when it was warn out (like the ring gear on the flywheel for example).

So, at this point I'll investigate further from different sources and see
what develops.

Thanks,

Bill


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40C4E38E.EB7457BD@sympatico.ca...
> My CJ7 will do that if I ride the clutch any at all. It can happen in
> stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
> a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
>
> I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
> two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
> right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
>
> The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
> time too.
>
> Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
> use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
> occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
violent
> > vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> > actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher
and
> > get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a
new
> > clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
> >
> > How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
> >
> > I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how
it
> > responds using the front drive shaft.
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas.
> >
> > Bill

William Oliveri

I talked to the engine rebuilder who I told you races jeeps and is into
jeeps. Anyway, he said he has just had to live with it on two different
jeeps. He said he took his to a guy who got it all the shutters out
(flywheel or clutch voodoo or something) but then later it just came back.

I talked to the R&R guy and he said the flywheel was in perfect condition
when he installed it. He wasn't shy about telling me I needed something
when it was warn out (like the ring gear on the flywheel for example).

So, at this point I'll investigate further from different sources and see
what develops.

Thanks,

Bill


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40C4E38E.EB7457BD@sympatico.ca...
> My CJ7 will do that if I ride the clutch any at all. It can happen in
> stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
> a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
>
> I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
> two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
> right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
>
> The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
> time too.
>
> Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
> use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
> occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
violent
> > vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> > actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher
and
> > get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a
new
> > clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
> >
> > How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
> >
> > I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how
it
> > responds using the front drive shaft.
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas.
> >
> > Bill

Mike Romain

I just figure it is a result of my 3.31 gears and 33" tires.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I talked to the engine rebuilder who I told you races jeeps and is into
> jeeps. Anyway, he said he has just had to live with it on two different
> jeeps. He said he took his to a guy who got it all the shutters out
> (flywheel or clutch voodoo or something) but then later it just came back.
>
> I talked to the R&R guy and he said the flywheel was in perfect condition
> when he installed it. He wasn't shy about telling me I needed something
> when it was warn out (like the ring gear on the flywheel for example).
>
> So, at this point I'll investigate further from different sources and see
> what develops.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40C4E38E.EB7457BD@sympatico.ca...
> > My CJ7 will do that if I ride the clutch any at all. It can happen in
> > stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
> > a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
> >
> > I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
> > two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
> > right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
> >
> > The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
> > time too.
> >
> > Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
> > use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
> > occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
> violent
> > > vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> > > actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher
> and
> > > get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a
> new
> > > clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
> > >
> > > How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
> > >
> > > I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how
> it
> > > responds using the front drive shaft.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any ideas.
> > >
> > > Bill

Mike Romain

I just figure it is a result of my 3.31 gears and 33" tires.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I talked to the engine rebuilder who I told you races jeeps and is into
> jeeps. Anyway, he said he has just had to live with it on two different
> jeeps. He said he took his to a guy who got it all the shutters out
> (flywheel or clutch voodoo or something) but then later it just came back.
>
> I talked to the R&R guy and he said the flywheel was in perfect condition
> when he installed it. He wasn't shy about telling me I needed something
> when it was warn out (like the ring gear on the flywheel for example).
>
> So, at this point I'll investigate further from different sources and see
> what develops.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40C4E38E.EB7457BD@sympatico.ca...
> > My CJ7 will do that if I ride the clutch any at all. It can happen in
> > stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
> > a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
> >
> > I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
> > two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
> > right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
> >
> > The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
> > time too.
> >
> > Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
> > use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
> > occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
> violent
> > > vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> > > actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher
> and
> > > get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a
> new
> > > clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
> > >
> > > How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
> > >
> > > I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how
> it
> > > responds using the front drive shaft.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any ideas.
> > >
> > > Bill

Mike Romain

I just figure it is a result of my 3.31 gears and 33" tires.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I talked to the engine rebuilder who I told you races jeeps and is into
> jeeps. Anyway, he said he has just had to live with it on two different
> jeeps. He said he took his to a guy who got it all the shutters out
> (flywheel or clutch voodoo or something) but then later it just came back.
>
> I talked to the R&R guy and he said the flywheel was in perfect condition
> when he installed it. He wasn't shy about telling me I needed something
> when it was warn out (like the ring gear on the flywheel for example).
>
> So, at this point I'll investigate further from different sources and see
> what develops.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40C4E38E.EB7457BD@sympatico.ca...
> > My CJ7 will do that if I ride the clutch any at all. It can happen in
> > stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
> > a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
> >
> > I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
> > two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
> > right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
> >
> > The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
> > time too.
> >
> > Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
> > use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
> > occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
> violent
> > > vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> > > actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher
> and
> > > get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a
> new
> > > clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
> > >
> > > How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
> > >
> > > I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how
> it
> > > responds using the front drive shaft.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any ideas.
> > >
> > > Bill

Mike Romain

I just figure it is a result of my 3.31 gears and 33" tires.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I talked to the engine rebuilder who I told you races jeeps and is into
> jeeps. Anyway, he said he has just had to live with it on two different
> jeeps. He said he took his to a guy who got it all the shutters out
> (flywheel or clutch voodoo or something) but then later it just came back.
>
> I talked to the R&R guy and he said the flywheel was in perfect condition
> when he installed it. He wasn't shy about telling me I needed something
> when it was warn out (like the ring gear on the flywheel for example).
>
> So, at this point I'll investigate further from different sources and see
> what develops.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40C4E38E.EB7457BD@sympatico.ca...
> > My CJ7 will do that if I ride the clutch any at all. It can happen in
> > stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
> > a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
> >
> > I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
> > two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
> > right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
> >
> > The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
> > time too.
> >
> > Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
> > use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
> > occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
> violent
> > > vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> > > actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher
> and
> > > get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a
> new
> > > clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
> > >
> > > How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
> > >
> > > I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how
> it
> > > responds using the front drive shaft.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any ideas.
> > >
> > > Bill

CRWLR

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ijrs6Fnj119U1@uni-berlin.de...
> I recently installed a new tranny mount and the motor mounts were fine on
> the engine install.
>
> Bill
>

I knew you were gonna say that. ;-)

Your symptom is screaming motor mounts, but I thought they were new with the
recent rebuild. If they are not new with the rebuild, they deserve a closer
look. I can't think of anything else, except oil on the clutch. But, for
some reason I don't think your trouble is there ...

CRWLR

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ijrs6Fnj119U1@uni-berlin.de...
> I recently installed a new tranny mount and the motor mounts were fine on
> the engine install.
>
> Bill
>

I knew you were gonna say that. ;-)

Your symptom is screaming motor mounts, but I thought they were new with the
recent rebuild. If they are not new with the rebuild, they deserve a closer
look. I can't think of anything else, except oil on the clutch. But, for
some reason I don't think your trouble is there ...

CRWLR

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ijrs6Fnj119U1@uni-berlin.de...
> I recently installed a new tranny mount and the motor mounts were fine on
> the engine install.
>
> Bill
>

I knew you were gonna say that. ;-)

Your symptom is screaming motor mounts, but I thought they were new with the
recent rebuild. If they are not new with the rebuild, they deserve a closer
look. I can't think of anything else, except oil on the clutch. But, for
some reason I don't think your trouble is there ...