Determining health of transfer case, pinion, transmission
#21
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Re: Determining health of transfer case, pinion, transmission
Need a new transmission stabilizer bushing:
http://www.4wd.com/shopwrangler/Disp...ductSKU=U60298 If
you have a Dana 300 it looks like:
http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg If you have the stronger
Dana 18 or 20: http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg
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William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
http://www.4wd.com/shopwrangler/Disp...ductSKU=U60298 If
you have a Dana 300 it looks like:
http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg If you have the stronger
Dana 18 or 20: http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
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Re: Determining health of transfer case, pinion, transmission
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
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> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
This sounds like classic clutch "chatter", which is caused either oil on the
clutch plate, uneven surfaces on the flywheel, disk or pressure plate, or
misalignment of the engine & transmission.
news:2ijk1gFo8eklU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
This sounds like classic clutch "chatter", which is caused either oil on the
clutch plate, uneven surfaces on the flywheel, disk or pressure plate, or
misalignment of the engine & transmission.
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Re: Determining health of transfer case, pinion, transmission
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ijk1gFo8eklU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
This sounds like classic clutch "chatter", which is caused either oil on the
clutch plate, uneven surfaces on the flywheel, disk or pressure plate, or
misalignment of the engine & transmission.
news:2ijk1gFo8eklU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
This sounds like classic clutch "chatter", which is caused either oil on the
clutch plate, uneven surfaces on the flywheel, disk or pressure plate, or
misalignment of the engine & transmission.
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Re: Determining health of transfer case, pinion, transmission
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ijk1gFo8eklU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
This sounds like classic clutch "chatter", which is caused either oil on the
clutch plate, uneven surfaces on the flywheel, disk or pressure plate, or
misalignment of the engine & transmission.
news:2ijk1gFo8eklU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
This sounds like classic clutch "chatter", which is caused either oil on the
clutch plate, uneven surfaces on the flywheel, disk or pressure plate, or
misalignment of the engine & transmission.
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Re: Determining health of transfer case, pinion, transmission
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ijk1gFo8eklU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
This sounds like classic clutch "chatter", which is caused either oil on the
clutch plate, uneven surfaces on the flywheel, disk or pressure plate, or
misalignment of the engine & transmission.
news:2ijk1gFo8eklU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
This sounds like classic clutch "chatter", which is caused either oil on the
clutch plate, uneven surfaces on the flywheel, disk or pressure plate, or
misalignment of the engine & transmission.
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Re: Determining health of transfer case, pinion, transmission
My CJ7 will do that if I ride the clutch any at all. It can happen in
stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
time too.
Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
time too.
Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
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Re: Determining health of transfer case, pinion, transmission
My CJ7 will do that if I ride the clutch any at all. It can happen in
stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
time too.
Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
time too.
Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
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Re: Determining health of transfer case, pinion, transmission
My CJ7 will do that if I ride the clutch any at all. It can happen in
stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
time too.
Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
time too.
Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
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Re: Determining health of transfer case, pinion, transmission
My CJ7 will do that if I ride the clutch any at all. It can happen in
stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
time too.
Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
time too.
Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a violent
> vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher and
> get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a new
> clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
>
> How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
>
> I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how it
> responds using the front drive shaft.
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Bill
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Re: Determining health of transfer case, pinion, transmission
I talked to the engine rebuilder who I told you races jeeps and is into
jeeps. Anyway, he said he has just had to live with it on two different
jeeps. He said he took his to a guy who got it all the shutters out
(flywheel or clutch voodoo or something) but then later it just came back.
I talked to the R&R guy and he said the flywheel was in perfect condition
when he installed it. He wasn't shy about telling me I needed something
when it was warn out (like the ring gear on the flywheel for example).
So, at this point I'll investigate further from different sources and see
what develops.
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40C4E38E.EB7457BD@sympatico.ca...
> My CJ7 will do that if I ride the clutch any at all. It can happen in
> stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
> a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
>
> I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
> two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
> right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
>
> The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
> time too.
>
> Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
> use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
> occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
violent
> > vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> > actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher
and
> > get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a
new
> > clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
> >
> > How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
> >
> > I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how
it
> > responds using the front drive shaft.
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas.
> >
> > Bill
jeeps. Anyway, he said he has just had to live with it on two different
jeeps. He said he took his to a guy who got it all the shutters out
(flywheel or clutch voodoo or something) but then later it just came back.
I talked to the R&R guy and he said the flywheel was in perfect condition
when he installed it. He wasn't shy about telling me I needed something
when it was warn out (like the ring gear on the flywheel for example).
So, at this point I'll investigate further from different sources and see
what develops.
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40C4E38E.EB7457BD@sympatico.ca...
> My CJ7 will do that if I ride the clutch any at all. It can happen in
> stop and go uphill traffic, I have 20 miles of it from downtown. It is
> a pain, but I got used to just letting it out faster and walking it.
>
> I have had a different clutch, pressure plate and the same flywheel in
> two engine setups. The clutch itself is spring loaded and just the
> right flywheel grip can bounce them it seems.
>
> The flywheel likely needed turning. It seems to be getting better with
> time too.
>
> Got to check the clutch surface after one year of hard off road and mud
> use and the painted label was still visible on both sides despite the
> occasional judder, so no worries here. :-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > Since I've had this jeep I've had like a "shimy" or sometimes even a
violent
> > vibration when letting out the clutch in either first or reverse. It's
> > actually the worse in Reverse. I can sometimes rev the engine higher
and
> > get through it easier but it still happens to some extent. I've had a
new
> > clutch put in and corrected the linkage but still have this vibration.
> >
> > How can I diagnois the cause of this shaking?
> >
> > I guess one thing I could do is remove the rear drive shaft and see how
it
> > responds using the front drive shaft.
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas.
> >
> > Bill