Death wobble
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Re: Death wobble
I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyea
Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mil
at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. Thes
were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotat
the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm puttin
Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see abou
the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but
think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less tha
20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now
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rogerw
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#32
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Re: Death wobble
Some part has to physically be worn or bent to cause that. The steering
stabilizer replacement will not cure it, only mask the worn part until
it breaks.
If you had a bent rim or a separated tire belt, it would happen every
time you passed a certain speed usually.
You can jack up one tire at a time and shake and twist them to see if
you have a bad wheel bearing and be under when someone turns the
steering from pin to pin to look for movement in any of the joints or
tie rod ends.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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rogerwl wrote:
>
> I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyear
> Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mile
> at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. These
> were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotate
> the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm putting
> Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see about
> the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but I
> think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less than
> 20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now.
>
> --
> rogerwl
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
stabilizer replacement will not cure it, only mask the worn part until
it breaks.
If you had a bent rim or a separated tire belt, it would happen every
time you passed a certain speed usually.
You can jack up one tire at a time and shake and twist them to see if
you have a bad wheel bearing and be under when someone turns the
steering from pin to pin to look for movement in any of the joints or
tie rod ends.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
rogerwl wrote:
>
> I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyear
> Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mile
> at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. These
> were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotate
> the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm putting
> Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see about
> the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but I
> think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less than
> 20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now.
>
> --
> rogerwl
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
#33
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Re: Death wobble
Some part has to physically be worn or bent to cause that. The steering
stabilizer replacement will not cure it, only mask the worn part until
it breaks.
If you had a bent rim or a separated tire belt, it would happen every
time you passed a certain speed usually.
You can jack up one tire at a time and shake and twist them to see if
you have a bad wheel bearing and be under when someone turns the
steering from pin to pin to look for movement in any of the joints or
tie rod ends.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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rogerwl wrote:
>
> I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyear
> Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mile
> at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. These
> were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotate
> the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm putting
> Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see about
> the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but I
> think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less than
> 20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now.
>
> --
> rogerwl
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
stabilizer replacement will not cure it, only mask the worn part until
it breaks.
If you had a bent rim or a separated tire belt, it would happen every
time you passed a certain speed usually.
You can jack up one tire at a time and shake and twist them to see if
you have a bad wheel bearing and be under when someone turns the
steering from pin to pin to look for movement in any of the joints or
tie rod ends.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
rogerwl wrote:
>
> I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyear
> Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mile
> at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. These
> were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotate
> the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm putting
> Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see about
> the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but I
> think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less than
> 20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now.
>
> --
> rogerwl
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
#34
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Re: Death wobble
Some part has to physically be worn or bent to cause that. The steering
stabilizer replacement will not cure it, only mask the worn part until
it breaks.
If you had a bent rim or a separated tire belt, it would happen every
time you passed a certain speed usually.
You can jack up one tire at a time and shake and twist them to see if
you have a bad wheel bearing and be under when someone turns the
steering from pin to pin to look for movement in any of the joints or
tie rod ends.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
rogerwl wrote:
>
> I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyear
> Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mile
> at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. These
> were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotate
> the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm putting
> Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see about
> the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but I
> think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less than
> 20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now.
>
> --
> rogerwl
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
stabilizer replacement will not cure it, only mask the worn part until
it breaks.
If you had a bent rim or a separated tire belt, it would happen every
time you passed a certain speed usually.
You can jack up one tire at a time and shake and twist them to see if
you have a bad wheel bearing and be under when someone turns the
steering from pin to pin to look for movement in any of the joints or
tie rod ends.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
rogerwl wrote:
>
> I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyear
> Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mile
> at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. These
> were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotate
> the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm putting
> Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see about
> the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but I
> think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less than
> 20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now.
>
> --
> rogerwl
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
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Re: Death wobble
On Mon, 22 May 2006 16:55:01 GMT, rogerwl
<rogerwl.287xdn@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote:
>
>I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyear
>Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mile
>at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. These
>were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotate
>the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm putting
>Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see about
>the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but I
>think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less than
>20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now.
Steering looseness in a Jeep often means steering components. People
attack the easy stuff first, like the steering stabilizer and tires,
but when it is severe you probably have a problem in the track bar,
drag link and/or tie rod ends. In my case it was all three. New
tires, steering stabilizer and alignment did absolutely nothing to
stop the severe death wobble. Replacing all the parts mentioned
completely stopped it.
----
<rogerwl.287xdn@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote:
>
>I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyear
>Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mile
>at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. These
>were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotate
>the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm putting
>Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see about
>the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but I
>think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less than
>20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now.
Steering looseness in a Jeep often means steering components. People
attack the easy stuff first, like the steering stabilizer and tires,
but when it is severe you probably have a problem in the track bar,
drag link and/or tie rod ends. In my case it was all three. New
tires, steering stabilizer and alignment did absolutely nothing to
stop the severe death wobble. Replacing all the parts mentioned
completely stopped it.
----
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Re: Death wobble
On Mon, 22 May 2006 16:55:01 GMT, rogerwl
<rogerwl.287xdn@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote:
>
>I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyear
>Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mile
>at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. These
>were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotate
>the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm putting
>Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see about
>the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but I
>think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less than
>20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now.
Steering looseness in a Jeep often means steering components. People
attack the easy stuff first, like the steering stabilizer and tires,
but when it is severe you probably have a problem in the track bar,
drag link and/or tie rod ends. In my case it was all three. New
tires, steering stabilizer and alignment did absolutely nothing to
stop the severe death wobble. Replacing all the parts mentioned
completely stopped it.
----
<rogerwl.287xdn@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote:
>
>I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyear
>Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mile
>at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. These
>were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotate
>the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm putting
>Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see about
>the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but I
>think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less than
>20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now.
Steering looseness in a Jeep often means steering components. People
attack the easy stuff first, like the steering stabilizer and tires,
but when it is severe you probably have a problem in the track bar,
drag link and/or tie rod ends. In my case it was all three. New
tires, steering stabilizer and alignment did absolutely nothing to
stop the severe death wobble. Replacing all the parts mentioned
completely stopped it.
----
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Re: Death wobble
On Mon, 22 May 2006 16:55:01 GMT, rogerwl
<rogerwl.287xdn@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote:
>
>I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyear
>Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mile
>at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. These
>were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotate
>the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm putting
>Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see about
>the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but I
>think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less than
>20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now.
Steering looseness in a Jeep often means steering components. People
attack the easy stuff first, like the steering stabilizer and tires,
but when it is severe you probably have a problem in the track bar,
drag link and/or tie rod ends. In my case it was all three. New
tires, steering stabilizer and alignment did absolutely nothing to
stop the severe death wobble. Replacing all the parts mentioned
completely stopped it.
----
<rogerwl.287xdn@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote:
>
>I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyear
>Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mile
>at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. These
>were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotate
>the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm putting
>Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see about
>the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but I
>think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less than
>20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now.
Steering looseness in a Jeep often means steering components. People
attack the easy stuff first, like the steering stabilizer and tires,
but when it is severe you probably have a problem in the track bar,
drag link and/or tie rod ends. In my case it was all three. New
tires, steering stabilizer and alignment did absolutely nothing to
stop the severe death wobble. Replacing all the parts mentioned
completely stopped it.
----
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Re: Death wobble
mrbogus did pass the time by typing:
> Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
> from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
> here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
> wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
> box), besides the usual worn joints???
Play in the steering, just like going over bumps in the road, can start
deathwobble. But what allows deathwobble to happen is the suspension.
Worn bushings, shocks, ball joints, and loose stablilzer bar. Or
having the front end out of alignment.
--
DougW
> Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
> from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
> here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
> wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
> box), besides the usual worn joints???
Play in the steering, just like going over bumps in the road, can start
deathwobble. But what allows deathwobble to happen is the suspension.
Worn bushings, shocks, ball joints, and loose stablilzer bar. Or
having the front end out of alignment.
--
DougW
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Re: Death wobble
mrbogus did pass the time by typing:
> Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
> from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
> here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
> wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
> box), besides the usual worn joints???
Play in the steering, just like going over bumps in the road, can start
deathwobble. But what allows deathwobble to happen is the suspension.
Worn bushings, shocks, ball joints, and loose stablilzer bar. Or
having the front end out of alignment.
--
DougW
> Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
> from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
> here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
> wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
> box), besides the usual worn joints???
Play in the steering, just like going over bumps in the road, can start
deathwobble. But what allows deathwobble to happen is the suspension.
Worn bushings, shocks, ball joints, and loose stablilzer bar. Or
having the front end out of alignment.
--
DougW
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Re: Death wobble
mrbogus did pass the time by typing:
> Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
> from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
> here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
> wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
> box), besides the usual worn joints???
Play in the steering, just like going over bumps in the road, can start
deathwobble. But what allows deathwobble to happen is the suspension.
Worn bushings, shocks, ball joints, and loose stablilzer bar. Or
having the front end out of alignment.
--
DougW
> Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
> from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
> here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
> wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
> box), besides the usual worn joints???
Play in the steering, just like going over bumps in the road, can start
deathwobble. But what allows deathwobble to happen is the suspension.
Worn bushings, shocks, ball joints, and loose stablilzer bar. Or
having the front end out of alignment.
--
DougW
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