Death wobble
05-17-2006, 01:14 PM
#21
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Re: Death wobble
I'm guessing it's a TJL, Unlimtited Wrangler. An '04 would have to be driven
VERY hard to get those kind of wear issues, I'm guessing the alignment
wasn't set up after the lift. He should take out the dropped pitman arm too,
if there is one.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4463667A.CC9AD24@sympatico.ca...
> What is a 'LJ' ?
>
> That aside, you sound like you have a badly worn out part or a badly
> done lift. If the castor didn't get set right on the lift, you can have
> wobble issues. With 33's on, these 'fast' turn into worn out parts.
>
> The stabilizer is there for shock absorbing, it won't cure death wobble.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "my02tj@gmail.com" wrote:
>>
>> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
>> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>>
>> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
>> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
>> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
>> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
>> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
>> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
>> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
>> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>>
>> Any ideas where I should start looking?
VERY hard to get those kind of wear issues, I'm guessing the alignment
wasn't set up after the lift. He should take out the dropped pitman arm too,
if there is one.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4463667A.CC9AD24@sympatico.ca...
> What is a 'LJ' ?
>
> That aside, you sound like you have a badly worn out part or a badly
> done lift. If the castor didn't get set right on the lift, you can have
> wobble issues. With 33's on, these 'fast' turn into worn out parts.
>
> The stabilizer is there for shock absorbing, it won't cure death wobble.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "my02tj@gmail.com" wrote:
>>
>> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
>> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>>
>> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
>> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
>> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
>> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
>> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
>> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
>> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
>> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>>
>> Any ideas where I should start looking?
05-17-2006, 01:14 PM
#22
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Re: Death wobble
I'm guessing it's a TJL, Unlimtited Wrangler. An '04 would have to be driven
VERY hard to get those kind of wear issues, I'm guessing the alignment
wasn't set up after the lift. He should take out the dropped pitman arm too,
if there is one.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4463667A.CC9AD24@sympatico.ca...
> What is a 'LJ' ?
>
> That aside, you sound like you have a badly worn out part or a badly
> done lift. If the castor didn't get set right on the lift, you can have
> wobble issues. With 33's on, these 'fast' turn into worn out parts.
>
> The stabilizer is there for shock absorbing, it won't cure death wobble.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "my02tj@gmail.com" wrote:
>>
>> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
>> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>>
>> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
>> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
>> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
>> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
>> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
>> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
>> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
>> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>>
>> Any ideas where I should start looking?
VERY hard to get those kind of wear issues, I'm guessing the alignment
wasn't set up after the lift. He should take out the dropped pitman arm too,
if there is one.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4463667A.CC9AD24@sympatico.ca...
> What is a 'LJ' ?
>
> That aside, you sound like you have a badly worn out part or a badly
> done lift. If the castor didn't get set right on the lift, you can have
> wobble issues. With 33's on, these 'fast' turn into worn out parts.
>
> The stabilizer is there for shock absorbing, it won't cure death wobble.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "my02tj@gmail.com" wrote:
>>
>> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
>> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>>
>> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
>> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
>> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
>> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
>> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
>> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
>> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
>> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>>
>> Any ideas where I should start looking?
05-22-2006, 03:12 AM
#23
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Re: Death wobble
Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
box), besides the usual worn joints???
from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
box), besides the usual worn joints???
05-22-2006, 03:12 AM
#24
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Re: Death wobble
Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
box), besides the usual worn joints???
from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
box), besides the usual worn joints???
05-22-2006, 03:12 AM
#25
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Re: Death wobble
Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
box), besides the usual worn joints???
from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
box), besides the usual worn joints???
05-22-2006, 09:25 AM
#26
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Re: Death wobble
Not really. That would just make the vehicle 'tack' into the wind as
you drive so you need to always have the wheel cut at an angle.
The steering box play is on the wrong side of the steering damper shock
for it to cause death wobble.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
mrbogus@eim.ae wrote:
>
> Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
> from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
> here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
> wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
> box), besides the usual worn joints???
you drive so you need to always have the wheel cut at an angle.
The steering box play is on the wrong side of the steering damper shock
for it to cause death wobble.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
mrbogus@eim.ae wrote:
>
> Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
> from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
> here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
> wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
> box), besides the usual worn joints???
05-22-2006, 09:25 AM
#27
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Re: Death wobble
Not really. That would just make the vehicle 'tack' into the wind as
you drive so you need to always have the wheel cut at an angle.
The steering box play is on the wrong side of the steering damper shock
for it to cause death wobble.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
mrbogus@eim.ae wrote:
>
> Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
> from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
> here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
> wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
> box), besides the usual worn joints???
you drive so you need to always have the wheel cut at an angle.
The steering box play is on the wrong side of the steering damper shock
for it to cause death wobble.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
mrbogus@eim.ae wrote:
>
> Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
> from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
> here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
> wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
> box), besides the usual worn joints???
05-22-2006, 09:25 AM
#28
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Posts: n/a
Re: Death wobble
Not really. That would just make the vehicle 'tack' into the wind as
you drive so you need to always have the wheel cut at an angle.
The steering box play is on the wrong side of the steering damper shock
for it to cause death wobble.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
mrbogus@eim.ae wrote:
>
> Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
> from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
> here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
> wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
> box), besides the usual worn joints???
you drive so you need to always have the wheel cut at an angle.
The steering box play is on the wrong side of the steering damper shock
for it to cause death wobble.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
mrbogus@eim.ae wrote:
>
> Just a thought..... would it be possible to get a death wobble
> from a leaky and very old steering box? I know that it's not the case
> here with a 04 TJ, but I have a stock 97TJ with 250,000mi and was
> wondering if this could also be one of the causes (play in the steering
> box), besides the usual worn joints???
05-22-2006, 12:55 PM
#29
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Re: Death wobble
I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyea
Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mil
at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. Thes
were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotat
the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm puttin
Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see abou
the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but
think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less tha
20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now
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05-22-2006, 12:55 PM
#30
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Re: Death wobble
I, too, have an '04, as stock as the day I bought it - no lift, Goodyea
Wranglers, etc. I had a very severe wobble last week, twice in a mil
at around 60mph. Had to pull over and stop to "correct" it. Thes
were my 4th and 5th experiences. I've had the thing aligned, I rotat
the tires regularly, I've had the wheels checked for play. I'm puttin
Nokians on it today and I'm going to take it to the dealer to see abou
the steering shocks. I have complained about it to the dealer but
think they're clueless, or pretending to be, at least. I had less tha
20k on it when it first occurred. It has about 40k now
--
rogerw
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