death wobble!!
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When it comes to front end parts on the vehicle my wife and kid drives,
'marginal' means just what is says. Not really safe and in need of
repair sooner or later and on a vehicle with 300K on it I figured sooner
was better.
They were my choice to swap or not, I didn't get suckered by a
$tealership telling me I 'had' to change this to the tune of $2000.00 or
more 'labor' only to still have a shake.
*'You'* are supposed to know better! That is supposedly why 'you' can
charge $80.00+ per hour and still sleep at night!
'I', unlike 'you', never claimed to be a mechanic.....
My CJ7 also had a bunch of 'marginal' steering components. Each
component was good enough to pass a safety, just, but add them all up
and the vehicle would not drive at 65 mph without shaking itself off the
road. I saved some of those 'marginal' parts for my off road spares box
by the by.
So I changed all those 'marginal' parts and left the steering stabilizer
alone and now have 'perfect' steering on 'both' Jeeps.
Like our Cherokee brakes. The $tealership gave a quote of over $2000.00
in writing to fix a low brake pedal when my wife took it in for a 'free'
brake inspection.
I had someone open them up so I could look when it got home.
The 6 month old rear brake shoe needed a hold down pin and one front
rotor was scored from a stuck caliper. That was it!!!!! The low pedal
was from the broken 15 cent pin the local Jeep shop gave me the
replacement for for free. New shoes and pads and drums and rotor were
already in place at the other 3 wheels with almost no wear.
You $tealership jerks are a bunch of thieves. Oh, I can back that up in
writing too, caught the local $tealership charging tax on non taxable
items which is a criminal offense up here in Canada.
Mike
tim bur wrote:
>
> oh my god!!!!! he changes a pile of marginal parts that does not fix it!!!
> same dam thing you have said about me and working at a dealer excuse me
> stealership is the words you used, and look at what you have admitted in
> writing right here enough said
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > When all else fails and you are 'sure' all the bushings, bearings and
> > ball joint or tie rod ends and tires (rotate them to the back to be
> > sure) are perfect and still have the shimmy, check the rad fan.
> >
> > We had the death wobble in our Cherokee so bad I thought I was going to
> > lose a front wheel finally. It worked it's way worse. I checked
> > everything, changes a pile of 'marginal' parts and still no joy.
> >
> > Then my fan started eating the fan shroud. Bingo. That sucker went
> > into a harmonic wobble literally bad enough to shake us off the road. A
> > weak engine mount and a spongy tranny mount let the vibration magnify
> > that bad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Cal wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > It seems our 97 wrangler has developed the 'death wobble.' Occasionally,
> > > after i guess hitting a bump just right, we get a severe wobble in the
> > > steering wheel that will only stop after slowing down. I have checked
> > > linkages in the suspension, and the only play i can find is in the
> > > stabilizer bar links. There is some play on both sides there. I replaced
> > > the steering damper last summer, and I guess it could be defective. The
> > > jeep handles great (well, as great as a jeep can!), and the tires are in
> > > balance. What do i look for?? Could it be the stabilizer bar links?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > cal
'marginal' means just what is says. Not really safe and in need of
repair sooner or later and on a vehicle with 300K on it I figured sooner
was better.
They were my choice to swap or not, I didn't get suckered by a
$tealership telling me I 'had' to change this to the tune of $2000.00 or
more 'labor' only to still have a shake.
*'You'* are supposed to know better! That is supposedly why 'you' can
charge $80.00+ per hour and still sleep at night!
'I', unlike 'you', never claimed to be a mechanic.....
My CJ7 also had a bunch of 'marginal' steering components. Each
component was good enough to pass a safety, just, but add them all up
and the vehicle would not drive at 65 mph without shaking itself off the
road. I saved some of those 'marginal' parts for my off road spares box
by the by.
So I changed all those 'marginal' parts and left the steering stabilizer
alone and now have 'perfect' steering on 'both' Jeeps.
Like our Cherokee brakes. The $tealership gave a quote of over $2000.00
in writing to fix a low brake pedal when my wife took it in for a 'free'
brake inspection.
I had someone open them up so I could look when it got home.
The 6 month old rear brake shoe needed a hold down pin and one front
rotor was scored from a stuck caliper. That was it!!!!! The low pedal
was from the broken 15 cent pin the local Jeep shop gave me the
replacement for for free. New shoes and pads and drums and rotor were
already in place at the other 3 wheels with almost no wear.
You $tealership jerks are a bunch of thieves. Oh, I can back that up in
writing too, caught the local $tealership charging tax on non taxable
items which is a criminal offense up here in Canada.
Mike
tim bur wrote:
>
> oh my god!!!!! he changes a pile of marginal parts that does not fix it!!!
> same dam thing you have said about me and working at a dealer excuse me
> stealership is the words you used, and look at what you have admitted in
> writing right here enough said
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > When all else fails and you are 'sure' all the bushings, bearings and
> > ball joint or tie rod ends and tires (rotate them to the back to be
> > sure) are perfect and still have the shimmy, check the rad fan.
> >
> > We had the death wobble in our Cherokee so bad I thought I was going to
> > lose a front wheel finally. It worked it's way worse. I checked
> > everything, changes a pile of 'marginal' parts and still no joy.
> >
> > Then my fan started eating the fan shroud. Bingo. That sucker went
> > into a harmonic wobble literally bad enough to shake us off the road. A
> > weak engine mount and a spongy tranny mount let the vibration magnify
> > that bad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Cal wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > It seems our 97 wrangler has developed the 'death wobble.' Occasionally,
> > > after i guess hitting a bump just right, we get a severe wobble in the
> > > steering wheel that will only stop after slowing down. I have checked
> > > linkages in the suspension, and the only play i can find is in the
> > > stabilizer bar links. There is some play on both sides there. I replaced
> > > the steering damper last summer, and I guess it could be defective. The
> > > jeep handles great (well, as great as a jeep can!), and the tires are in
> > > balance. What do i look for?? Could it be the stabilizer bar links?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > cal
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When it comes to front end parts on the vehicle my wife and kid drives,
'marginal' means just what is says. Not really safe and in need of
repair sooner or later and on a vehicle with 300K on it I figured sooner
was better.
They were my choice to swap or not, I didn't get suckered by a
$tealership telling me I 'had' to change this to the tune of $2000.00 or
more 'labor' only to still have a shake.
*'You'* are supposed to know better! That is supposedly why 'you' can
charge $80.00+ per hour and still sleep at night!
'I', unlike 'you', never claimed to be a mechanic.....
My CJ7 also had a bunch of 'marginal' steering components. Each
component was good enough to pass a safety, just, but add them all up
and the vehicle would not drive at 65 mph without shaking itself off the
road. I saved some of those 'marginal' parts for my off road spares box
by the by.
So I changed all those 'marginal' parts and left the steering stabilizer
alone and now have 'perfect' steering on 'both' Jeeps.
Like our Cherokee brakes. The $tealership gave a quote of over $2000.00
in writing to fix a low brake pedal when my wife took it in for a 'free'
brake inspection.
I had someone open them up so I could look when it got home.
The 6 month old rear brake shoe needed a hold down pin and one front
rotor was scored from a stuck caliper. That was it!!!!! The low pedal
was from the broken 15 cent pin the local Jeep shop gave me the
replacement for for free. New shoes and pads and drums and rotor were
already in place at the other 3 wheels with almost no wear.
You $tealership jerks are a bunch of thieves. Oh, I can back that up in
writing too, caught the local $tealership charging tax on non taxable
items which is a criminal offense up here in Canada.
Mike
tim bur wrote:
>
> oh my god!!!!! he changes a pile of marginal parts that does not fix it!!!
> same dam thing you have said about me and working at a dealer excuse me
> stealership is the words you used, and look at what you have admitted in
> writing right here enough said
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > When all else fails and you are 'sure' all the bushings, bearings and
> > ball joint or tie rod ends and tires (rotate them to the back to be
> > sure) are perfect and still have the shimmy, check the rad fan.
> >
> > We had the death wobble in our Cherokee so bad I thought I was going to
> > lose a front wheel finally. It worked it's way worse. I checked
> > everything, changes a pile of 'marginal' parts and still no joy.
> >
> > Then my fan started eating the fan shroud. Bingo. That sucker went
> > into a harmonic wobble literally bad enough to shake us off the road. A
> > weak engine mount and a spongy tranny mount let the vibration magnify
> > that bad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Cal wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > It seems our 97 wrangler has developed the 'death wobble.' Occasionally,
> > > after i guess hitting a bump just right, we get a severe wobble in the
> > > steering wheel that will only stop after slowing down. I have checked
> > > linkages in the suspension, and the only play i can find is in the
> > > stabilizer bar links. There is some play on both sides there. I replaced
> > > the steering damper last summer, and I guess it could be defective. The
> > > jeep handles great (well, as great as a jeep can!), and the tires are in
> > > balance. What do i look for?? Could it be the stabilizer bar links?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > cal
'marginal' means just what is says. Not really safe and in need of
repair sooner or later and on a vehicle with 300K on it I figured sooner
was better.
They were my choice to swap or not, I didn't get suckered by a
$tealership telling me I 'had' to change this to the tune of $2000.00 or
more 'labor' only to still have a shake.
*'You'* are supposed to know better! That is supposedly why 'you' can
charge $80.00+ per hour and still sleep at night!
'I', unlike 'you', never claimed to be a mechanic.....
My CJ7 also had a bunch of 'marginal' steering components. Each
component was good enough to pass a safety, just, but add them all up
and the vehicle would not drive at 65 mph without shaking itself off the
road. I saved some of those 'marginal' parts for my off road spares box
by the by.
So I changed all those 'marginal' parts and left the steering stabilizer
alone and now have 'perfect' steering on 'both' Jeeps.
Like our Cherokee brakes. The $tealership gave a quote of over $2000.00
in writing to fix a low brake pedal when my wife took it in for a 'free'
brake inspection.
I had someone open them up so I could look when it got home.
The 6 month old rear brake shoe needed a hold down pin and one front
rotor was scored from a stuck caliper. That was it!!!!! The low pedal
was from the broken 15 cent pin the local Jeep shop gave me the
replacement for for free. New shoes and pads and drums and rotor were
already in place at the other 3 wheels with almost no wear.
You $tealership jerks are a bunch of thieves. Oh, I can back that up in
writing too, caught the local $tealership charging tax on non taxable
items which is a criminal offense up here in Canada.
Mike
tim bur wrote:
>
> oh my god!!!!! he changes a pile of marginal parts that does not fix it!!!
> same dam thing you have said about me and working at a dealer excuse me
> stealership is the words you used, and look at what you have admitted in
> writing right here enough said
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > When all else fails and you are 'sure' all the bushings, bearings and
> > ball joint or tie rod ends and tires (rotate them to the back to be
> > sure) are perfect and still have the shimmy, check the rad fan.
> >
> > We had the death wobble in our Cherokee so bad I thought I was going to
> > lose a front wheel finally. It worked it's way worse. I checked
> > everything, changes a pile of 'marginal' parts and still no joy.
> >
> > Then my fan started eating the fan shroud. Bingo. That sucker went
> > into a harmonic wobble literally bad enough to shake us off the road. A
> > weak engine mount and a spongy tranny mount let the vibration magnify
> > that bad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Cal wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > It seems our 97 wrangler has developed the 'death wobble.' Occasionally,
> > > after i guess hitting a bump just right, we get a severe wobble in the
> > > steering wheel that will only stop after slowing down. I have checked
> > > linkages in the suspension, and the only play i can find is in the
> > > stabilizer bar links. There is some play on both sides there. I replaced
> > > the steering damper last summer, and I guess it could be defective. The
> > > jeep handles great (well, as great as a jeep can!), and the tires are in
> > > balance. What do i look for?? Could it be the stabilizer bar links?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > cal
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When it comes to front end parts on the vehicle my wife and kid drives,
'marginal' means just what is says. Not really safe and in need of
repair sooner or later and on a vehicle with 300K on it I figured sooner
was better.
They were my choice to swap or not, I didn't get suckered by a
$tealership telling me I 'had' to change this to the tune of $2000.00 or
more 'labor' only to still have a shake.
*'You'* are supposed to know better! That is supposedly why 'you' can
charge $80.00+ per hour and still sleep at night!
'I', unlike 'you', never claimed to be a mechanic.....
My CJ7 also had a bunch of 'marginal' steering components. Each
component was good enough to pass a safety, just, but add them all up
and the vehicle would not drive at 65 mph without shaking itself off the
road. I saved some of those 'marginal' parts for my off road spares box
by the by.
So I changed all those 'marginal' parts and left the steering stabilizer
alone and now have 'perfect' steering on 'both' Jeeps.
Like our Cherokee brakes. The $tealership gave a quote of over $2000.00
in writing to fix a low brake pedal when my wife took it in for a 'free'
brake inspection.
I had someone open them up so I could look when it got home.
The 6 month old rear brake shoe needed a hold down pin and one front
rotor was scored from a stuck caliper. That was it!!!!! The low pedal
was from the broken 15 cent pin the local Jeep shop gave me the
replacement for for free. New shoes and pads and drums and rotor were
already in place at the other 3 wheels with almost no wear.
You $tealership jerks are a bunch of thieves. Oh, I can back that up in
writing too, caught the local $tealership charging tax on non taxable
items which is a criminal offense up here in Canada.
Mike
tim bur wrote:
>
> oh my god!!!!! he changes a pile of marginal parts that does not fix it!!!
> same dam thing you have said about me and working at a dealer excuse me
> stealership is the words you used, and look at what you have admitted in
> writing right here enough said
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > When all else fails and you are 'sure' all the bushings, bearings and
> > ball joint or tie rod ends and tires (rotate them to the back to be
> > sure) are perfect and still have the shimmy, check the rad fan.
> >
> > We had the death wobble in our Cherokee so bad I thought I was going to
> > lose a front wheel finally. It worked it's way worse. I checked
> > everything, changes a pile of 'marginal' parts and still no joy.
> >
> > Then my fan started eating the fan shroud. Bingo. That sucker went
> > into a harmonic wobble literally bad enough to shake us off the road. A
> > weak engine mount and a spongy tranny mount let the vibration magnify
> > that bad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Cal wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > It seems our 97 wrangler has developed the 'death wobble.' Occasionally,
> > > after i guess hitting a bump just right, we get a severe wobble in the
> > > steering wheel that will only stop after slowing down. I have checked
> > > linkages in the suspension, and the only play i can find is in the
> > > stabilizer bar links. There is some play on both sides there. I replaced
> > > the steering damper last summer, and I guess it could be defective. The
> > > jeep handles great (well, as great as a jeep can!), and the tires are in
> > > balance. What do i look for?? Could it be the stabilizer bar links?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > cal
'marginal' means just what is says. Not really safe and in need of
repair sooner or later and on a vehicle with 300K on it I figured sooner
was better.
They were my choice to swap or not, I didn't get suckered by a
$tealership telling me I 'had' to change this to the tune of $2000.00 or
more 'labor' only to still have a shake.
*'You'* are supposed to know better! That is supposedly why 'you' can
charge $80.00+ per hour and still sleep at night!
'I', unlike 'you', never claimed to be a mechanic.....
My CJ7 also had a bunch of 'marginal' steering components. Each
component was good enough to pass a safety, just, but add them all up
and the vehicle would not drive at 65 mph without shaking itself off the
road. I saved some of those 'marginal' parts for my off road spares box
by the by.
So I changed all those 'marginal' parts and left the steering stabilizer
alone and now have 'perfect' steering on 'both' Jeeps.
Like our Cherokee brakes. The $tealership gave a quote of over $2000.00
in writing to fix a low brake pedal when my wife took it in for a 'free'
brake inspection.
I had someone open them up so I could look when it got home.
The 6 month old rear brake shoe needed a hold down pin and one front
rotor was scored from a stuck caliper. That was it!!!!! The low pedal
was from the broken 15 cent pin the local Jeep shop gave me the
replacement for for free. New shoes and pads and drums and rotor were
already in place at the other 3 wheels with almost no wear.
You $tealership jerks are a bunch of thieves. Oh, I can back that up in
writing too, caught the local $tealership charging tax on non taxable
items which is a criminal offense up here in Canada.
Mike
tim bur wrote:
>
> oh my god!!!!! he changes a pile of marginal parts that does not fix it!!!
> same dam thing you have said about me and working at a dealer excuse me
> stealership is the words you used, and look at what you have admitted in
> writing right here enough said
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > When all else fails and you are 'sure' all the bushings, bearings and
> > ball joint or tie rod ends and tires (rotate them to the back to be
> > sure) are perfect and still have the shimmy, check the rad fan.
> >
> > We had the death wobble in our Cherokee so bad I thought I was going to
> > lose a front wheel finally. It worked it's way worse. I checked
> > everything, changes a pile of 'marginal' parts and still no joy.
> >
> > Then my fan started eating the fan shroud. Bingo. That sucker went
> > into a harmonic wobble literally bad enough to shake us off the road. A
> > weak engine mount and a spongy tranny mount let the vibration magnify
> > that bad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Cal wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > It seems our 97 wrangler has developed the 'death wobble.' Occasionally,
> > > after i guess hitting a bump just right, we get a severe wobble in the
> > > steering wheel that will only stop after slowing down. I have checked
> > > linkages in the suspension, and the only play i can find is in the
> > > stabilizer bar links. There is some play on both sides there. I replaced
> > > the steering damper last summer, and I guess it could be defective. The
> > > jeep handles great (well, as great as a jeep can!), and the tires are in
> > > balance. What do i look for?? Could it be the stabilizer bar links?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > cal
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Wow, what $tealership do you work for?
Here you are advocating removing a critical safety part on a world wide
forum.
I'll bet the bosses would love that......
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
tim bur wrote:
>
> take it off and go for a ride!!!
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> > Jeff,
> > My '62, '72. '78 all came stock with dampeners, anything with a
> > straight axle did. And I've never had a death wobble, I've always used
> > better tires than that. If you would have wanted to replace yours, you
> > could have at: http://www.----------.com/temp/jeffsTruck.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > We once owned a '65 Ford pick up truck, it did not have a steering
> > > stabalizer. I suspect the steering stabalizer has very little to do with
> > > death wobble.
Here you are advocating removing a critical safety part on a world wide
forum.
I'll bet the bosses would love that......
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
tim bur wrote:
>
> take it off and go for a ride!!!
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> > Jeff,
> > My '62, '72. '78 all came stock with dampeners, anything with a
> > straight axle did. And I've never had a death wobble, I've always used
> > better tires than that. If you would have wanted to replace yours, you
> > could have at: http://www.----------.com/temp/jeffsTruck.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > We once owned a '65 Ford pick up truck, it did not have a steering
> > > stabalizer. I suspect the steering stabalizer has very little to do with
> > > death wobble.
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Wow, what $tealership do you work for?
Here you are advocating removing a critical safety part on a world wide
forum.
I'll bet the bosses would love that......
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
tim bur wrote:
>
> take it off and go for a ride!!!
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> > Jeff,
> > My '62, '72. '78 all came stock with dampeners, anything with a
> > straight axle did. And I've never had a death wobble, I've always used
> > better tires than that. If you would have wanted to replace yours, you
> > could have at: http://www.----------.com/temp/jeffsTruck.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > We once owned a '65 Ford pick up truck, it did not have a steering
> > > stabalizer. I suspect the steering stabalizer has very little to do with
> > > death wobble.
Here you are advocating removing a critical safety part on a world wide
forum.
I'll bet the bosses would love that......
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
tim bur wrote:
>
> take it off and go for a ride!!!
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> > Jeff,
> > My '62, '72. '78 all came stock with dampeners, anything with a
> > straight axle did. And I've never had a death wobble, I've always used
> > better tires than that. If you would have wanted to replace yours, you
> > could have at: http://www.----------.com/temp/jeffsTruck.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > We once owned a '65 Ford pick up truck, it did not have a steering
> > > stabalizer. I suspect the steering stabalizer has very little to do with
> > > death wobble.
#136
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Wow, what $tealership do you work for?
Here you are advocating removing a critical safety part on a world wide
forum.
I'll bet the bosses would love that......
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
tim bur wrote:
>
> take it off and go for a ride!!!
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> > Jeff,
> > My '62, '72. '78 all came stock with dampeners, anything with a
> > straight axle did. And I've never had a death wobble, I've always used
> > better tires than that. If you would have wanted to replace yours, you
> > could have at: http://www.----------.com/temp/jeffsTruck.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > We once owned a '65 Ford pick up truck, it did not have a steering
> > > stabalizer. I suspect the steering stabalizer has very little to do with
> > > death wobble.
Here you are advocating removing a critical safety part on a world wide
forum.
I'll bet the bosses would love that......
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
tim bur wrote:
>
> take it off and go for a ride!!!
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> > Jeff,
> > My '62, '72. '78 all came stock with dampeners, anything with a
> > straight axle did. And I've never had a death wobble, I've always used
> > better tires than that. If you would have wanted to replace yours, you
> > could have at: http://www.----------.com/temp/jeffsTruck.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > We once owned a '65 Ford pick up truck, it did not have a steering
> > > stabalizer. I suspect the steering stabalizer has very little to do with
> > > death wobble.
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Wow, what $tealership do you work for?
Here you are advocating removing a critical safety part on a world wide
forum.
I'll bet the bosses would love that......
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
tim bur wrote:
>
> take it off and go for a ride!!!
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> > Jeff,
> > My '62, '72. '78 all came stock with dampeners, anything with a
> > straight axle did. And I've never had a death wobble, I've always used
> > better tires than that. If you would have wanted to replace yours, you
> > could have at: http://www.----------.com/temp/jeffsTruck.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > We once owned a '65 Ford pick up truck, it did not have a steering
> > > stabalizer. I suspect the steering stabalizer has very little to do with
> > > death wobble.
Here you are advocating removing a critical safety part on a world wide
forum.
I'll bet the bosses would love that......
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
tim bur wrote:
>
> take it off and go for a ride!!!
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> > Jeff,
> > My '62, '72. '78 all came stock with dampeners, anything with a
> > straight axle did. And I've never had a death wobble, I've always used
> > better tires than that. If you would have wanted to replace yours, you
> > could have at: http://www.----------.com/temp/jeffsTruck.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > We once owned a '65 Ford pick up truck, it did not have a steering
> > > stabalizer. I suspect the steering stabalizer has very little to do with
> > > death wobble.
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The same thing happened to me, on my 98 TJ. I tried balance, checking all
the front end components.. It almost put me in the ditch while driving on
the freeway one day.
Turns out my tire was suffereing from "ply sep", as the tire guy called it.
I got a new set of tires which solved the problem.
Tim
"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:x2cAe.142630$XQ.2761260@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Hi!
>
> It seems our 97 wrangler has developed the 'death wobble.' Occasionally,
> after i guess hitting a bump just right, we get a severe wobble in the
> steering wheel that will only stop after slowing down. I have checked
> linkages in the suspension, and the only play i can find is in the
> stabilizer bar links. There is some play on both sides there. I replaced
> the steering damper last summer, and I guess it could be defective. The
> jeep handles great (well, as great as a jeep can!), and the tires are in
> balance. What do i look for?? Could it be the stabilizer bar links?
>
> thanks,
> cal
>
>
the front end components.. It almost put me in the ditch while driving on
the freeway one day.
Turns out my tire was suffereing from "ply sep", as the tire guy called it.
I got a new set of tires which solved the problem.
Tim
"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:x2cAe.142630$XQ.2761260@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Hi!
>
> It seems our 97 wrangler has developed the 'death wobble.' Occasionally,
> after i guess hitting a bump just right, we get a severe wobble in the
> steering wheel that will only stop after slowing down. I have checked
> linkages in the suspension, and the only play i can find is in the
> stabilizer bar links. There is some play on both sides there. I replaced
> the steering damper last summer, and I guess it could be defective. The
> jeep handles great (well, as great as a jeep can!), and the tires are in
> balance. What do i look for?? Could it be the stabilizer bar links?
>
> thanks,
> cal
>
>
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The same thing happened to me, on my 98 TJ. I tried balance, checking all
the front end components.. It almost put me in the ditch while driving on
the freeway one day.
Turns out my tire was suffereing from "ply sep", as the tire guy called it.
I got a new set of tires which solved the problem.
Tim
"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:x2cAe.142630$XQ.2761260@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Hi!
>
> It seems our 97 wrangler has developed the 'death wobble.' Occasionally,
> after i guess hitting a bump just right, we get a severe wobble in the
> steering wheel that will only stop after slowing down. I have checked
> linkages in the suspension, and the only play i can find is in the
> stabilizer bar links. There is some play on both sides there. I replaced
> the steering damper last summer, and I guess it could be defective. The
> jeep handles great (well, as great as a jeep can!), and the tires are in
> balance. What do i look for?? Could it be the stabilizer bar links?
>
> thanks,
> cal
>
>
the front end components.. It almost put me in the ditch while driving on
the freeway one day.
Turns out my tire was suffereing from "ply sep", as the tire guy called it.
I got a new set of tires which solved the problem.
Tim
"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:x2cAe.142630$XQ.2761260@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Hi!
>
> It seems our 97 wrangler has developed the 'death wobble.' Occasionally,
> after i guess hitting a bump just right, we get a severe wobble in the
> steering wheel that will only stop after slowing down. I have checked
> linkages in the suspension, and the only play i can find is in the
> stabilizer bar links. There is some play on both sides there. I replaced
> the steering damper last summer, and I guess it could be defective. The
> jeep handles great (well, as great as a jeep can!), and the tires are in
> balance. What do i look for?? Could it be the stabilizer bar links?
>
> thanks,
> cal
>
>
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The same thing happened to me, on my 98 TJ. I tried balance, checking all
the front end components.. It almost put me in the ditch while driving on
the freeway one day.
Turns out my tire was suffereing from "ply sep", as the tire guy called it.
I got a new set of tires which solved the problem.
Tim
"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:x2cAe.142630$XQ.2761260@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Hi!
>
> It seems our 97 wrangler has developed the 'death wobble.' Occasionally,
> after i guess hitting a bump just right, we get a severe wobble in the
> steering wheel that will only stop after slowing down. I have checked
> linkages in the suspension, and the only play i can find is in the
> stabilizer bar links. There is some play on both sides there. I replaced
> the steering damper last summer, and I guess it could be defective. The
> jeep handles great (well, as great as a jeep can!), and the tires are in
> balance. What do i look for?? Could it be the stabilizer bar links?
>
> thanks,
> cal
>
>
the front end components.. It almost put me in the ditch while driving on
the freeway one day.
Turns out my tire was suffereing from "ply sep", as the tire guy called it.
I got a new set of tires which solved the problem.
Tim
"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:x2cAe.142630$XQ.2761260@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Hi!
>
> It seems our 97 wrangler has developed the 'death wobble.' Occasionally,
> after i guess hitting a bump just right, we get a severe wobble in the
> steering wheel that will only stop after slowing down. I have checked
> linkages in the suspension, and the only play i can find is in the
> stabilizer bar links. There is some play on both sides there. I replaced
> the steering damper last summer, and I guess it could be defective. The
> jeep handles great (well, as great as a jeep can!), and the tires are in
> balance. What do i look for?? Could it be the stabilizer bar links?
>
> thanks,
> cal
>
>