Dave Milne

v good.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:PXYgb.522689$Oz4.380375@rwcrnsc54...
: Approximately 10/8/03 10:29, Paul Calman uttered for posterity:
:
: > Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
: >
:
: Only until the next recall.....
:

Dave Milne

v good.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:PXYgb.522689$Oz4.380375@rwcrnsc54...
: Approximately 10/8/03 10:29, Paul Calman uttered for posterity:
:
: > Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
: >
:
: Only until the next recall.....
:

Dave Milne

v good.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:PXYgb.522689$Oz4.380375@rwcrnsc54...
: Approximately 10/8/03 10:29, Paul Calman uttered for posterity:
:
: > Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
: >
:
: Only until the next recall.....
:

David G. Nagel

Paul Calman wrote:
>> I was told "did
>>you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
>>absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
>>waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".
>
>
>
> I have 27 years as a mechanic, but only a few with a dealer.
> When a warrantee or recall repair gets to the dealer's shop, the factory
> will pay the shop considerably less than a customer would. The job usually
> falls to the guy with the least amount of seniority (or brown-nosing skill),
> and experience. No one wants to do the job, as the pay sucks(commission),
> but dealers have to do it by contract with the manufacturer.
> You would probably get the job done better and faster by an independent
> shop, but you will have to pay for it.
>
The first thing you should have done was ask for the district rep's name
and address. Dealers are required by their contract to perform all
maintenance and repairs with out regard as to purchase location.

My experience with a recall repair was the exact opposite. Last summer
my daughter called late one Sunday evening from the middle of nowhere
Michigan. The radiator fluid completely drained from the cooling system
of her car. a T-bird. Being the dotting father I am :), I drove four or
five hours to bring her a fresh car as she and her college roommates had
to be at work the next day and I didn't.
To make this story longer, the car had been towed to a local shop near
where the breakdown happened and I stayed over to see to the repairs.
The local shop said it would be atleast 4 or 5 days to repair the car
and would cost a couple of hundred dollars. I had them take the car to
the nearest Ford dealership, about 20 miles. The dealer also said 4 or 5
days. Ok, I called the nearest Enterprise Car Rental, about 20 miles,
they picked me up and took me to the agency office, another Ford
dealership as it happened. On Friday I returned for the T-bird it had
been repaired at, to my supprise, no cost. It turned out that the part
that had failed, causing the leak, was on a dealership recall notice,
i.e. Repair if encountered. This Dealer was a long way from where we
bought the car originally and totally out of warranty but was repaired
with absolutely no problem or complaint.

Dave Nagel-

David G. Nagel

Paul Calman wrote:
>> I was told "did
>>you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
>>absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
>>waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".
>
>
>
> I have 27 years as a mechanic, but only a few with a dealer.
> When a warrantee or recall repair gets to the dealer's shop, the factory
> will pay the shop considerably less than a customer would. The job usually
> falls to the guy with the least amount of seniority (or brown-nosing skill),
> and experience. No one wants to do the job, as the pay sucks(commission),
> but dealers have to do it by contract with the manufacturer.
> You would probably get the job done better and faster by an independent
> shop, but you will have to pay for it.
>
The first thing you should have done was ask for the district rep's name
and address. Dealers are required by their contract to perform all
maintenance and repairs with out regard as to purchase location.

My experience with a recall repair was the exact opposite. Last summer
my daughter called late one Sunday evening from the middle of nowhere
Michigan. The radiator fluid completely drained from the cooling system
of her car. a T-bird. Being the dotting father I am :), I drove four or
five hours to bring her a fresh car as she and her college roommates had
to be at work the next day and I didn't.
To make this story longer, the car had been towed to a local shop near
where the breakdown happened and I stayed over to see to the repairs.
The local shop said it would be atleast 4 or 5 days to repair the car
and would cost a couple of hundred dollars. I had them take the car to
the nearest Ford dealership, about 20 miles. The dealer also said 4 or 5
days. Ok, I called the nearest Enterprise Car Rental, about 20 miles,
they picked me up and took me to the agency office, another Ford
dealership as it happened. On Friday I returned for the T-bird it had
been repaired at, to my supprise, no cost. It turned out that the part
that had failed, causing the leak, was on a dealership recall notice,
i.e. Repair if encountered. This Dealer was a long way from where we
bought the car originally and totally out of warranty but was repaired
with absolutely no problem or complaint.

Dave Nagel-

David G. Nagel

Paul Calman wrote:
>> I was told "did
>>you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
>>absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
>>waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".
>
>
>
> I have 27 years as a mechanic, but only a few with a dealer.
> When a warrantee or recall repair gets to the dealer's shop, the factory
> will pay the shop considerably less than a customer would. The job usually
> falls to the guy with the least amount of seniority (or brown-nosing skill),
> and experience. No one wants to do the job, as the pay sucks(commission),
> but dealers have to do it by contract with the manufacturer.
> You would probably get the job done better and faster by an independent
> shop, but you will have to pay for it.
>
The first thing you should have done was ask for the district rep's name
and address. Dealers are required by their contract to perform all
maintenance and repairs with out regard as to purchase location.

My experience with a recall repair was the exact opposite. Last summer
my daughter called late one Sunday evening from the middle of nowhere
Michigan. The radiator fluid completely drained from the cooling system
of her car. a T-bird. Being the dotting father I am :), I drove four or
five hours to bring her a fresh car as she and her college roommates had
to be at work the next day and I didn't.
To make this story longer, the car had been towed to a local shop near
where the breakdown happened and I stayed over to see to the repairs.
The local shop said it would be atleast 4 or 5 days to repair the car
and would cost a couple of hundred dollars. I had them take the car to
the nearest Ford dealership, about 20 miles. The dealer also said 4 or 5
days. Ok, I called the nearest Enterprise Car Rental, about 20 miles,
they picked me up and took me to the agency office, another Ford
dealership as it happened. On Friday I returned for the T-bird it had
been repaired at, to my supprise, no cost. It turned out that the part
that had failed, causing the leak, was on a dealership recall notice,
i.e. Repair if encountered. This Dealer was a long way from where we
bought the car originally and totally out of warranty but was repaired
with absolutely no problem or complaint.

Dave Nagel-

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

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Dave Milne wrote:
>
> 5 in fact !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

A dozen reported at:
http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/2...ies/01life.htm
Must **** off these elf ---------.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> 5 in fact !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

A dozen reported at:
http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/2...ies/01life.htm
Must **** off these elf ---------.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> 5 in fact !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

Lon Stowell

Approximately 10/8/03 13:16, TJim uttered for posterity:

> Hmmm... That kinda seems like the beginnings of a trend, doesn't it...
> What's Hulk Hogan doing these days? Is Lou Ferigno (sp?) still alive?
> There are lots of states left...
>
Hulk Hogan was spotted at the Colts/Tampa game in the audience
by one of the cameras recently. Lou Ferrigno is also still
alive, but not doing much hulkwork these days.

Self would prefer someone like Raider Bill Romanowski, who may
be looking for a new career if his concussions don't improve.