Dealing with recalls
 

The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html

I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:

TSB # Date TSB Title
624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure

I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
hundred dollars.

In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago) and
get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!

Bryan

Re: Dealing with recalls
 

I got that recall notice in early 1996 and had the converter replaced about
June of that year...

Earle

"The Hurdy Gurdy Man" <bryan@linux.webicommerce.com> wrote in message
news:bm0dj6$4g$1@nnrp.atgi.net...
>
> The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
> happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:
>
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html
>
> I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
> that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
> about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
> recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
> again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
> concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:
>
> TSB # Date TSB Title
> 624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
> 625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
> 681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
> 680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure
>
> I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
> whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
> recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
> new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
> hundred dollars.
>
> In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
> from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
> emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
> the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago)
and
> get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
> costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
> particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
> ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>
> Bryan
>

Re: Dealing with recalls
 

I got that recall notice in early 1996 and had the converter replaced about
June of that year...

Earle

"The Hurdy Gurdy Man" <bryan@linux.webicommerce.com> wrote in message
news:bm0dj6$4g$1@nnrp.atgi.net...
>
> The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
> happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:
>
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html
>
> I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
> that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
> about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
> recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
> again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
> concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:
>
> TSB # Date TSB Title
> 624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
> 625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
> 681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
> 680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure
>
> I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
> whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
> recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
> new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
> hundred dollars.
>
> In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
> from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
> emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
> the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago)
and
> get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
> costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
> particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
> ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>
> Bryan
>

Re: Dealing with recalls
 

I got that recall notice in early 1996 and had the converter replaced about
June of that year...

Earle

"The Hurdy Gurdy Man" <bryan@linux.webicommerce.com> wrote in message
news:bm0dj6$4g$1@nnrp.atgi.net...
>
> The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
> happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:
>
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html
>
> I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
> that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
> about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
> recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
> again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
> concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:
>
> TSB # Date TSB Title
> 624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
> 625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
> 681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
> 680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure
>
> I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
> whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
> recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
> new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
> hundred dollars.
>
> In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
> from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
> emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
> the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago)
and
> get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
> costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
> particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
> ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>
> Bryan
>

Re: Dealing with recalls
 

I never got any of those recalls either (I have a '93 YJ). I did
however raise an unholy stink about the gas tank gasket recall when I
heard about it in 94 (from word of mouth, not by any official
notificaiton or website). It was something that I finally had to kick
up to the owner of the dealership before I got any satisfaction. Alot
of ranting and raving later, I got back a jeep with a gas tank leak.
It was taken in to get a recall item fixed that MAY cause a leak, and
was returned with a bonafide leak. Complaining to them did not help,
so years later when I got in an accident, the collision shop actually
fixed it for me.

That's one reason why I'm actually reluctant to take it down to get
that parking brake fixed....I'm sure when they're done I'll have no
brakes at all.

Don't even get me started on when I called another dealer for warranty
work (after some paint issues on the passenger door). I was told "did
you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".

Guess who I wil never, ever patronize for anything ever.....that last
dealership which happens to reside in Batavia NY.

Sorry for the ranting, that story is a hot button for me.

Later

Tony





On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:15:51 +0000 (UTC), The Hurdy Gurdy Man
<bryan@linux.webicommerce.com> wrote:

>
>The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
>happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:
>
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html
>
>I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
>that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
>about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
>recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
>again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
>concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:
>
>TSB # Date TSB Title
>624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
>625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
>681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
>680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure
>
>I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
>whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
>recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
>new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
>hundred dollars.
>
>In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
>from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
>emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
>the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago) and
>get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
>costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
>particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
>ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>
> Bryan

Re: Dealing with recalls
 

I never got any of those recalls either (I have a '93 YJ). I did
however raise an unholy stink about the gas tank gasket recall when I
heard about it in 94 (from word of mouth, not by any official
notificaiton or website). It was something that I finally had to kick
up to the owner of the dealership before I got any satisfaction. Alot
of ranting and raving later, I got back a jeep with a gas tank leak.
It was taken in to get a recall item fixed that MAY cause a leak, and
was returned with a bonafide leak. Complaining to them did not help,
so years later when I got in an accident, the collision shop actually
fixed it for me.

That's one reason why I'm actually reluctant to take it down to get
that parking brake fixed....I'm sure when they're done I'll have no
brakes at all.

Don't even get me started on when I called another dealer for warranty
work (after some paint issues on the passenger door). I was told "did
you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".

Guess who I wil never, ever patronize for anything ever.....that last
dealership which happens to reside in Batavia NY.

Sorry for the ranting, that story is a hot button for me.

Later

Tony





On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:15:51 +0000 (UTC), The Hurdy Gurdy Man
<bryan@linux.webicommerce.com> wrote:

>
>The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
>happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:
>
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html
>
>I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
>that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
>about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
>recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
>again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
>concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:
>
>TSB # Date TSB Title
>624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
>625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
>681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
>680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure
>
>I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
>whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
>recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
>new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
>hundred dollars.
>
>In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
>from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
>emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
>the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago) and
>get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
>costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
>particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
>ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>
> Bryan

Re: Dealing with recalls
 

I never got any of those recalls either (I have a '93 YJ). I did
however raise an unholy stink about the gas tank gasket recall when I
heard about it in 94 (from word of mouth, not by any official
notificaiton or website). It was something that I finally had to kick
up to the owner of the dealership before I got any satisfaction. Alot
of ranting and raving later, I got back a jeep with a gas tank leak.
It was taken in to get a recall item fixed that MAY cause a leak, and
was returned with a bonafide leak. Complaining to them did not help,
so years later when I got in an accident, the collision shop actually
fixed it for me.

That's one reason why I'm actually reluctant to take it down to get
that parking brake fixed....I'm sure when they're done I'll have no
brakes at all.

Don't even get me started on when I called another dealer for warranty
work (after some paint issues on the passenger door). I was told "did
you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".

Guess who I wil never, ever patronize for anything ever.....that last
dealership which happens to reside in Batavia NY.

Sorry for the ranting, that story is a hot button for me.

Later

Tony





On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:15:51 +0000 (UTC), The Hurdy Gurdy Man
<bryan@linux.webicommerce.com> wrote:

>
>The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
>happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:
>
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html
>
>I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
>that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
>about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
>recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
>again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
>concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:
>
>TSB # Date TSB Title
>624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
>625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
>681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
>680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure
>
>I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
>whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
>recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
>new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
>hundred dollars.
>
>In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
>from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
>emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
>the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago) and
>get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
>costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
>particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
>ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>
> Bryan

Re: Dealing with recalls
 

> I was told "did
> you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
> absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
> waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".


I have 27 years as a mechanic, but only a few with a dealer.
When a warrantee or recall repair gets to the dealer's shop, the factory
will pay the shop considerably less than a customer would. The job usually
falls to the guy with the least amount of seniority (or brown-nosing skill),
and experience. No one wants to do the job, as the pay sucks(commission),
but dealers have to do it by contract with the manufacturer.
You would probably get the job done better and faster by an independent
shop, but you will have to pay for it.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: Dealing with recalls
 

> I was told "did
> you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
> absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
> waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".


I have 27 years as a mechanic, but only a few with a dealer.
When a warrantee or recall repair gets to the dealer's shop, the factory
will pay the shop considerably less than a customer would. The job usually
falls to the guy with the least amount of seniority (or brown-nosing skill),
and experience. No one wants to do the job, as the pay sucks(commission),
but dealers have to do it by contract with the manufacturer.
You would probably get the job done better and faster by an independent
shop, but you will have to pay for it.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: Dealing with recalls
 

> I was told "did
> you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
> absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
> waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".


I have 27 years as a mechanic, but only a few with a dealer.
When a warrantee or recall repair gets to the dealer's shop, the factory
will pay the shop considerably less than a customer would. The job usually
falls to the guy with the least amount of seniority (or brown-nosing skill),
and experience. No one wants to do the job, as the pay sucks(commission),
but dealers have to do it by contract with the manufacturer.
You would probably get the job done better and faster by an independent
shop, but you will have to pay for it.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California