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The Hurdy Gurdy Man 10-08-2003 03:15 AM

Dealing with recalls
 

The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html

I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:

TSB # Date TSB Title
624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure

I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
hundred dollars.

In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago) and
get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!

Bryan


Earle Horton 10-08-2003 09:54 AM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
I got that recall notice in early 1996 and had the converter replaced about
June of that year...

Earle

"The Hurdy Gurdy Man" <bryan@linux.webicommerce.com> wrote in message
news:bm0dj6$4g$1@nnrp.atgi.net...
>
> The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
> happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:
>
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html
>
> I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
> that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
> about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
> recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
> again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
> concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:
>
> TSB # Date TSB Title
> 624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
> 625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
> 681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
> 680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure
>
> I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
> whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
> recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
> new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
> hundred dollars.
>
> In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
> from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
> emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
> the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago)

and
> get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
> costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
> particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
> ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>
> Bryan
>




Earle Horton 10-08-2003 09:54 AM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
I got that recall notice in early 1996 and had the converter replaced about
June of that year...

Earle

"The Hurdy Gurdy Man" <bryan@linux.webicommerce.com> wrote in message
news:bm0dj6$4g$1@nnrp.atgi.net...
>
> The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
> happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:
>
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html
>
> I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
> that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
> about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
> recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
> again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
> concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:
>
> TSB # Date TSB Title
> 624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
> 625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
> 681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
> 680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure
>
> I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
> whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
> recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
> new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
> hundred dollars.
>
> In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
> from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
> emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
> the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago)

and
> get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
> costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
> particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
> ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>
> Bryan
>




Earle Horton 10-08-2003 09:54 AM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
I got that recall notice in early 1996 and had the converter replaced about
June of that year...

Earle

"The Hurdy Gurdy Man" <bryan@linux.webicommerce.com> wrote in message
news:bm0dj6$4g$1@nnrp.atgi.net...
>
> The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
> happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:
>
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html
>
> I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
> that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
> about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
> recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
> again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
> concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:
>
> TSB # Date TSB Title
> 624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
> 625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
> 681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
> 680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure
>
> I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
> whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
> recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
> new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
> hundred dollars.
>
> In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
> from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
> emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
> the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago)

and
> get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
> costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
> particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
> ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>
> Bryan
>




Tony 10-08-2003 12:03 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
I never got any of those recalls either (I have a '93 YJ). I did
however raise an unholy stink about the gas tank gasket recall when I
heard about it in 94 (from word of mouth, not by any official
notificaiton or website). It was something that I finally had to kick
up to the owner of the dealership before I got any satisfaction. Alot
of ranting and raving later, I got back a jeep with a gas tank leak.
It was taken in to get a recall item fixed that MAY cause a leak, and
was returned with a bonafide leak. Complaining to them did not help,
so years later when I got in an accident, the collision shop actually
fixed it for me.

That's one reason why I'm actually reluctant to take it down to get
that parking brake fixed....I'm sure when they're done I'll have no
brakes at all.

Don't even get me started on when I called another dealer for warranty
work (after some paint issues on the passenger door). I was told "did
you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".

Guess who I wil never, ever patronize for anything ever.....that last
dealership which happens to reside in Batavia NY.

Sorry for the ranting, that story is a hot button for me.

Later

Tony





On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:15:51 +0000 (UTC), The Hurdy Gurdy Man
<bryan@linux.webicommerce.com> wrote:

>
>The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
>happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:
>
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html
>
>I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
>that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
>about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
>recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
>again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
>concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:
>
>TSB # Date TSB Title
>624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
>625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
>681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
>680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure
>
>I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
>whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
>recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
>new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
>hundred dollars.
>
>In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
>from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
>emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
>the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago) and
>get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
>costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
>particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
>ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>
> Bryan



Tony 10-08-2003 12:03 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
I never got any of those recalls either (I have a '93 YJ). I did
however raise an unholy stink about the gas tank gasket recall when I
heard about it in 94 (from word of mouth, not by any official
notificaiton or website). It was something that I finally had to kick
up to the owner of the dealership before I got any satisfaction. Alot
of ranting and raving later, I got back a jeep with a gas tank leak.
It was taken in to get a recall item fixed that MAY cause a leak, and
was returned with a bonafide leak. Complaining to them did not help,
so years later when I got in an accident, the collision shop actually
fixed it for me.

That's one reason why I'm actually reluctant to take it down to get
that parking brake fixed....I'm sure when they're done I'll have no
brakes at all.

Don't even get me started on when I called another dealer for warranty
work (after some paint issues on the passenger door). I was told "did
you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".

Guess who I wil never, ever patronize for anything ever.....that last
dealership which happens to reside in Batavia NY.

Sorry for the ranting, that story is a hot button for me.

Later

Tony





On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:15:51 +0000 (UTC), The Hurdy Gurdy Man
<bryan@linux.webicommerce.com> wrote:

>
>The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
>happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:
>
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html
>
>I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
>that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
>about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
>recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
>again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
>concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:
>
>TSB # Date TSB Title
>624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
>625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
>681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
>680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure
>
>I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
>whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
>recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
>new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
>hundred dollars.
>
>In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
>from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
>emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
>the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago) and
>get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
>costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
>particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
>ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>
> Bryan



Tony 10-08-2003 12:03 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
I never got any of those recalls either (I have a '93 YJ). I did
however raise an unholy stink about the gas tank gasket recall when I
heard about it in 94 (from word of mouth, not by any official
notificaiton or website). It was something that I finally had to kick
up to the owner of the dealership before I got any satisfaction. Alot
of ranting and raving later, I got back a jeep with a gas tank leak.
It was taken in to get a recall item fixed that MAY cause a leak, and
was returned with a bonafide leak. Complaining to them did not help,
so years later when I got in an accident, the collision shop actually
fixed it for me.

That's one reason why I'm actually reluctant to take it down to get
that parking brake fixed....I'm sure when they're done I'll have no
brakes at all.

Don't even get me started on when I called another dealer for warranty
work (after some paint issues on the passenger door). I was told "did
you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".

Guess who I wil never, ever patronize for anything ever.....that last
dealership which happens to reside in Batavia NY.

Sorry for the ranting, that story is a hot button for me.

Later

Tony





On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:15:51 +0000 (UTC), The Hurdy Gurdy Man
<bryan@linux.webicommerce.com> wrote:

>
>The parking brake recall thread provided me with this very handy URL that
>happens to apply to the exact model and year of Jeep I've been working on:
>
> http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/940406D9.html
>
>I also asked my father (who still receives all the various Jeep mailings
>that came about as a result of the purchase of the aforementioned Jeep)
>about the parking brake recall notice, and so I now have a copy of the
>recall letter for that and will have it done when the machine is running
>again. But in the previously listed URL, I noticed several recalls of
>concern assuming I'm reading the page correctly. There's these:
>
>TSB # Date TSB Title
>624 FEB 95 Recall - Fuel Tank Sending Unit Gasket
>625 DEC 94 Recall - Fuel Sending Unit
>681 MAY 96 Recall - Catalytic Converter
>680 MAR 96 Recall - Catalyst Failure
>
>I checked, and my father never received any notices about these
>whatsoever... which especially concerns me because of those emissions
>recalls, seeing as the Jeep failed emissions a few years back and needed a
>new catalytic converter in order to pass, which ended up costing several
>hundred dollars.
>
>In the case of all these recalls, do I need some kind of official letter
>from the manufacturer before I can have them performed? And with the
>emissions recalls, is there a chance that I could submit the invoices for
>the emissiosn repair work performed (even though it was a few years ago) and
>get a refund from them? The money would definitely help with the repair
>costs, plus it'd be nice to get the other issues resolved. I don't
>particularly want to give the Jeep back to my brother until everything is
>ironed out and a-ok. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>
> Bryan



Paul Calman 10-08-2003 01:28 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
> I was told "did
> you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
> absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
> waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".



I have 27 years as a mechanic, but only a few with a dealer.
When a warrantee or recall repair gets to the dealer's shop, the factory
will pay the shop considerably less than a customer would. The job usually
falls to the guy with the least amount of seniority (or brown-nosing skill),
and experience. No one wants to do the job, as the pay sucks(commission),
but dealers have to do it by contract with the manufacturer.
You would probably get the job done better and faster by an independent
shop, but you will have to pay for it.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 10-08-2003 01:28 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
> I was told "did
> you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
> absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
> waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".



I have 27 years as a mechanic, but only a few with a dealer.
When a warrantee or recall repair gets to the dealer's shop, the factory
will pay the shop considerably less than a customer would. The job usually
falls to the guy with the least amount of seniority (or brown-nosing skill),
and experience. No one wants to do the job, as the pay sucks(commission),
but dealers have to do it by contract with the manufacturer.
You would probably get the job done better and faster by an independent
shop, but you will have to pay for it.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 10-08-2003 01:28 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
> I was told "did
> you buy it here?" to which I replied no. "Well, then you will be the
> absolute last person in the que, and if someone comes in during the
> waiting time, you will be pushed behind them".



I have 27 years as a mechanic, but only a few with a dealer.
When a warrantee or recall repair gets to the dealer's shop, the factory
will pay the shop considerably less than a customer would. The job usually
falls to the guy with the least amount of seniority (or brown-nosing skill),
and experience. No one wants to do the job, as the pay sucks(commission),
but dealers have to do it by contract with the manufacturer.
You would probably get the job done better and faster by an independent
shop, but you will have to pay for it.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 10-08-2003 01:29 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 10-08-2003 01:29 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 10-08-2003 01:29 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



TJim 10-08-2003 01:41 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
....and he talks funny, too!

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bm1hhl$hph01$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>




TJim 10-08-2003 01:41 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
....and he talks funny, too!

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bm1hhl$hph01$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>




TJim 10-08-2003 01:41 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
....and he talks funny, too!

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bm1hhl$hph01$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-08-2003 01:59 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Arnie definitely can't pronounce California, but I still voted for
him.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

TJim wrote:
>
> ...and he talks funny, too!
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-08-2003 01:59 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Arnie definitely can't pronounce California, but I still voted for
him.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

TJim wrote:
>
> ...and he talks funny, too!
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-08-2003 01:59 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Arnie definitely can't pronounce California, but I still voted for
him.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

TJim wrote:
>
> ...and he talks funny, too!
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98


Paul Calman 10-08-2003 02:08 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 

Most people didn't have much of a problem with our last Governor/actor.



Paul Calman 10-08-2003 02:08 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 

Most people didn't have much of a problem with our last Governor/actor.



Paul Calman 10-08-2003 02:08 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 

Most people didn't have much of a problem with our last Governor/actor.



TJim 10-08-2003 02:33 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Actually, the citizens of California have the right to choose as their
leaders anyone they like, providing the individual(s) meet all the legal
qualifications.
Californians, as a whole, obviously take Arnold quite seriously and it's
very possible he will fulfill their high expectations. Despite his
on-screen persona(s), he is indeed an astute businessman and quite an
intelligent individual, and even with those disadvantages, he may turn out
to be a good governor. ;-)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bm1jpn$hu3p9$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> Most people didn't have much of a problem with our last Governor/actor.
>
>




TJim 10-08-2003 02:33 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Actually, the citizens of California have the right to choose as their
leaders anyone they like, providing the individual(s) meet all the legal
qualifications.
Californians, as a whole, obviously take Arnold quite seriously and it's
very possible he will fulfill their high expectations. Despite his
on-screen persona(s), he is indeed an astute businessman and quite an
intelligent individual, and even with those disadvantages, he may turn out
to be a good governor. ;-)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bm1jpn$hu3p9$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> Most people didn't have much of a problem with our last Governor/actor.
>
>




TJim 10-08-2003 02:33 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Actually, the citizens of California have the right to choose as their
leaders anyone they like, providing the individual(s) meet all the legal
qualifications.
Californians, as a whole, obviously take Arnold quite seriously and it's
very possible he will fulfill their high expectations. Despite his
on-screen persona(s), he is indeed an astute businessman and quite an
intelligent individual, and even with those disadvantages, he may turn out
to be a good governor. ;-)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bm1jpn$hu3p9$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> Most people didn't have much of a problem with our last Governor/actor.
>
>




Lon Stowell 10-08-2003 02:46 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Approximately 10/8/03 10:29, Paul Calman uttered for posterity:

> Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
>


Only until the next recall.....


Lon Stowell 10-08-2003 02:46 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Approximately 10/8/03 10:29, Paul Calman uttered for posterity:

> Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
>


Only until the next recall.....


Lon Stowell 10-08-2003 02:46 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Approximately 10/8/03 10:29, Paul Calman uttered for posterity:

> Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
>


Only until the next recall.....


TJim 10-08-2003 03:06 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
....of the Governor or the Hummer?

(I know, but I had to ask that or half the people here wouldn't get it...)
;-)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:PXYgb.522689$Oz4.380375@rwcrnsc54...
> Approximately 10/8/03 10:29, Paul Calman uttered for posterity:
>
> > Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
> >

>
> Only until the next recall.....
>




TJim 10-08-2003 03:06 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
....of the Governor or the Hummer?

(I know, but I had to ask that or half the people here wouldn't get it...)
;-)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
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> Approximately 10/8/03 10:29, Paul Calman uttered for posterity:
>
> > Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
> >

>
> Only until the next recall.....
>




TJim 10-08-2003 03:06 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
....of the Governor or the Hummer?

(I know, but I had to ask that or half the people here wouldn't get it...)
;-)

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"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:PXYgb.522689$Oz4.380375@rwcrnsc54...
> Approximately 10/8/03 10:29, Paul Calman uttered for posterity:
>
> > Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
> >

>
> Only until the next recall.....
>




Lon Stowell 10-08-2003 03:22 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Approximately 10/8/03 11:33, TJim uttered for posterity:

> Actually, the citizens of California have the right to choose as their
> leaders anyone they like, providing the individual(s) meet all the legal
> qualifications.
> Californians, as a whole, obviously take Arnold quite seriously and it's
> very possible he will fulfill their high expectations. Despite his
> on-screen persona(s), he is indeed an astute businessman and quite an
> intelligent individual, and even with those disadvantages, he may turn out
> to be a good governor. ;-)
>


And if not, much like Minnesota, are *you* willing to tell him
otherwise?


Lon Stowell 10-08-2003 03:22 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Approximately 10/8/03 11:33, TJim uttered for posterity:

> Actually, the citizens of California have the right to choose as their
> leaders anyone they like, providing the individual(s) meet all the legal
> qualifications.
> Californians, as a whole, obviously take Arnold quite seriously and it's
> very possible he will fulfill their high expectations. Despite his
> on-screen persona(s), he is indeed an astute businessman and quite an
> intelligent individual, and even with those disadvantages, he may turn out
> to be a good governor. ;-)
>


And if not, much like Minnesota, are *you* willing to tell him
otherwise?


Lon Stowell 10-08-2003 03:22 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Approximately 10/8/03 11:33, TJim uttered for posterity:

> Actually, the citizens of California have the right to choose as their
> leaders anyone they like, providing the individual(s) meet all the legal
> qualifications.
> Californians, as a whole, obviously take Arnold quite seriously and it's
> very possible he will fulfill their high expectations. Despite his
> on-screen persona(s), he is indeed an astute businessman and quite an
> intelligent individual, and even with those disadvantages, he may turn out
> to be a good governor. ;-)
>


And if not, much like Minnesota, are *you* willing to tell him
otherwise?


TJim 10-08-2003 04:16 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Hmmm... That kinda seems like the beginnings of a trend, doesn't it...
What's Hulk Hogan doing these days? Is Lou Ferigno (sp?) still alive?
There are lots of states left...

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"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:3uZgb.433976$2x.148369@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att. net...
> Approximately 10/8/03 11:33, TJim uttered for posterity:
>
> > Actually, the citizens of California have the right to choose as their
> > leaders anyone they like, providing the individual(s) meet all the legal
> > qualifications.
> > Californians, as a whole, obviously take Arnold quite seriously and it's
> > very possible he will fulfill their high expectations. Despite his
> > on-screen persona(s), he is indeed an astute businessman and quite an
> > intelligent individual, and even with those disadvantages, he may turn

out
> > to be a good governor. ;-)
> >

>
> And if not, much like Minnesota, are *you* willing to tell him
> otherwise?
>




TJim 10-08-2003 04:16 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Hmmm... That kinda seems like the beginnings of a trend, doesn't it...
What's Hulk Hogan doing these days? Is Lou Ferigno (sp?) still alive?
There are lots of states left...

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"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:3uZgb.433976$2x.148369@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att. net...
> Approximately 10/8/03 11:33, TJim uttered for posterity:
>
> > Actually, the citizens of California have the right to choose as their
> > leaders anyone they like, providing the individual(s) meet all the legal
> > qualifications.
> > Californians, as a whole, obviously take Arnold quite seriously and it's
> > very possible he will fulfill their high expectations. Despite his
> > on-screen persona(s), he is indeed an astute businessman and quite an
> > intelligent individual, and even with those disadvantages, he may turn

out
> > to be a good governor. ;-)
> >

>
> And if not, much like Minnesota, are *you* willing to tell him
> otherwise?
>




TJim 10-08-2003 04:16 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
Hmmm... That kinda seems like the beginnings of a trend, doesn't it...
What's Hulk Hogan doing these days? Is Lou Ferigno (sp?) still alive?
There are lots of states left...

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
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"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:3uZgb.433976$2x.148369@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att. net...
> Approximately 10/8/03 11:33, TJim uttered for posterity:
>
> > Actually, the citizens of California have the right to choose as their
> > leaders anyone they like, providing the individual(s) meet all the legal
> > qualifications.
> > Californians, as a whole, obviously take Arnold quite seriously and it's
> > very possible he will fulfill their high expectations. Despite his
> > on-screen persona(s), he is indeed an astute businessman and quite an
> > intelligent individual, and even with those disadvantages, he may turn

out
> > to be a good governor. ;-)
> >

>
> And if not, much like Minnesota, are *you* willing to tell him
> otherwise?
>




Dave Milne 10-08-2003 04:16 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
5 in fact !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
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: Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
:
: --
: Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
:
:



Dave Milne 10-08-2003 04:16 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
5 in fact !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bm1hhl$hph01$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
: Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
:
: --
: Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
:
:



Dave Milne 10-08-2003 04:16 PM

Re: Dealing with recalls
 
5 in fact !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bm1hhl$hph01$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
: Speaking of recalls, my new Governor drives a Hummvee
:
: --
: Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
:
:




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