Dead Battery (Alternator?) 1997 Jeep Wrangler...
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Re: Dead Battery (Alternator?) 1997 Jeep Wrangler...
And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
> aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system is
> the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
> alternator to the battery.
>
> The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim lights
> usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
> terminals are a first part to look at.
>
> Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
> battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for free.
> Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and get
> a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
> above is 2 hours and $20.
>
> EganReich wrote:
>> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>
>> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>> running.
>>
>> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>> a short time.
>>
>> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>
>> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>> connection from the battery? What?
>>
>> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>
>> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
> aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system is
> the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
> alternator to the battery.
>
> The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim lights
> usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
> terminals are a first part to look at.
>
> Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
> battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for free.
> Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and get
> a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
> above is 2 hours and $20.
>
> EganReich wrote:
>> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>
>> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>> running.
>>
>> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>> a short time.
>>
>> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>
>> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>> connection from the battery? What?
>>
>> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>
>> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>
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Re: Dead Battery (Alternator?) 1997 Jeep Wrangler...
And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
> aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system is
> the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
> alternator to the battery.
>
> The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim lights
> usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
> terminals are a first part to look at.
>
> Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
> battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for free.
> Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and get
> a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
> above is 2 hours and $20.
>
> EganReich wrote:
>> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>
>> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>> running.
>>
>> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>> a short time.
>>
>> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>
>> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>> connection from the battery? What?
>>
>> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>
>> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
> aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system is
> the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
> alternator to the battery.
>
> The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim lights
> usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
> terminals are a first part to look at.
>
> Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
> battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for free.
> Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and get
> a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
> above is 2 hours and $20.
>
> EganReich wrote:
>> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>
>> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>> running.
>>
>> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>> a short time.
>>
>> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>
>> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>> connection from the battery? What?
>>
>> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>
>> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>
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Re: Dead Battery (Alternator?) 1997 Jeep Wrangler...
And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
> aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system is
> the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
> alternator to the battery.
>
> The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim lights
> usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
> terminals are a first part to look at.
>
> Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
> battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for free.
> Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and get
> a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
> above is 2 hours and $20.
>
> EganReich wrote:
>> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>
>> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>> running.
>>
>> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>> a short time.
>>
>> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>
>> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>> connection from the battery? What?
>>
>> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>
>> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
> aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system is
> the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
> alternator to the battery.
>
> The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim lights
> usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
> terminals are a first part to look at.
>
> Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
> battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for free.
> Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and get
> a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
> above is 2 hours and $20.
>
> EganReich wrote:
>> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>
>> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>> running.
>>
>> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>> a short time.
>>
>> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>
>> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>> connection from the battery? What?
>>
>> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>
>> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>
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Re: Dead Battery (Alternator?) 1997 Jeep Wrangler...
Someone should mention the engine to body ground strap before Mike does.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
> > aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
is
> > the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
> > alternator to the battery.
> >
> > The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
lights
> > usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
> > terminals are a first part to look at.
> >
> > Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
> > battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
free.
> > Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
get
> > a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
> > above is 2 hours and $20.
> >
> > EganReich wrote:
> >> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
> >> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
> >>
> >> Ok.
> >>
> >> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
> >> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
> >> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
> >> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
> >> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
> >>
> >> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
> >> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
> >> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
> >> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
> >> running.
> >>
> >> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
> >> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
> >> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
> >> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
> >> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
> >> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
> >> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
> >> a short time.
> >>
> >> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
> >> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
> >> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
> >>
> >> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
> >> connection from the battery? What?
> >>
> >> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
> >>
> >> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
> >>
>
>
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b5934$45d929e5$422afc51$6757@FUSE.NET...
> And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
> > aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
is
> > the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
> > alternator to the battery.
> >
> > The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
lights
> > usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
> > terminals are a first part to look at.
> >
> > Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
> > battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
free.
> > Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
get
> > a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
> > above is 2 hours and $20.
> >
> > EganReich wrote:
> >> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
> >> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
> >>
> >> Ok.
> >>
> >> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
> >> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
> >> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
> >> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
> >> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
> >>
> >> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
> >> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
> >> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
> >> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
> >> running.
> >>
> >> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
> >> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
> >> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
> >> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
> >> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
> >> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
> >> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
> >> a short time.
> >>
> >> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
> >> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
> >> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
> >>
> >> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
> >> connection from the battery? What?
> >>
> >> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
> >>
> >> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
> >>
>
>
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Re: Dead Battery (Alternator?) 1997 Jeep Wrangler...
Someone should mention the engine to body ground strap before Mike does.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b5934$45d929e5$422afc51$6757@FUSE.NET...
> And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
> > aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
is
> > the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
> > alternator to the battery.
> >
> > The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
lights
> > usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
> > terminals are a first part to look at.
> >
> > Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
> > battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
free.
> > Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
get
> > a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
> > above is 2 hours and $20.
> >
> > EganReich wrote:
> >> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
> >> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
> >>
> >> Ok.
> >>
> >> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
> >> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
> >> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
> >> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
> >> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
> >>
> >> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
> >> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
> >> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
> >> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
> >> running.
> >>
> >> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
> >> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
> >> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
> >> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
> >> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
> >> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
> >> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
> >> a short time.
> >>
> >> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
> >> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
> >> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
> >>
> >> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
> >> connection from the battery? What?
> >>
> >> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
> >>
> >> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
> >>
>
>
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b5934$45d929e5$422afc51$6757@FUSE.NET...
> And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
> > aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
is
> > the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
> > alternator to the battery.
> >
> > The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
lights
> > usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
> > terminals are a first part to look at.
> >
> > Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
> > battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
free.
> > Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
get
> > a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
> > above is 2 hours and $20.
> >
> > EganReich wrote:
> >> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
> >> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
> >>
> >> Ok.
> >>
> >> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
> >> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
> >> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
> >> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
> >> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
> >>
> >> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
> >> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
> >> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
> >> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
> >> running.
> >>
> >> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
> >> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
> >> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
> >> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
> >> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
> >> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
> >> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
> >> a short time.
> >>
> >> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
> >> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
> >> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
> >>
> >> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
> >> connection from the battery? What?
> >>
> >> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
> >>
> >> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
> >>
>
>
Guest
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Re: Dead Battery (Alternator?) 1997 Jeep Wrangler...
Someone should mention the engine to body ground strap before Mike does.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b5934$45d929e5$422afc51$6757@FUSE.NET...
> And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
> > aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
is
> > the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
> > alternator to the battery.
> >
> > The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
lights
> > usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
> > terminals are a first part to look at.
> >
> > Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
> > battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
free.
> > Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
get
> > a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
> > above is 2 hours and $20.
> >
> > EganReich wrote:
> >> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
> >> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
> >>
> >> Ok.
> >>
> >> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
> >> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
> >> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
> >> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
> >> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
> >>
> >> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
> >> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
> >> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
> >> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
> >> running.
> >>
> >> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
> >> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
> >> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
> >> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
> >> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
> >> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
> >> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
> >> a short time.
> >>
> >> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
> >> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
> >> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
> >>
> >> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
> >> connection from the battery? What?
> >>
> >> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
> >>
> >> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
> >>
>
>
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b5934$45d929e5$422afc51$6757@FUSE.NET...
> And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
> > aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
is
> > the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
> > alternator to the battery.
> >
> > The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
lights
> > usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
> > terminals are a first part to look at.
> >
> > Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
> > battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
free.
> > Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
get
> > a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
> > above is 2 hours and $20.
> >
> > EganReich wrote:
> >> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
> >> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
> >>
> >> Ok.
> >>
> >> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
> >> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
> >> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
> >> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
> >> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
> >>
> >> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
> >> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
> >> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
> >> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
> >> running.
> >>
> >> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
> >> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
> >> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
> >> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
> >> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
> >> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
> >> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
> >> a short time.
> >>
> >> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
> >> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
> >> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
> >>
> >> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
> >> connection from the battery? What?
> >>
> >> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
> >>
> >> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
> >>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Dead Battery (Alternator?) 1997 Jeep Wrangler...
I was thinking about sticking that tidbit in my response, figured Mike
would get there first :) But flickering lights does point to a bad
ground strap!
Earle Horton wrote:
> Someone should mention the engine to body ground strap before Mike does.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b5934$45d929e5$422afc51$6757@FUSE.NET...
>
>>And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
>>>aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
>
> is
>
>>>the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
>>>alternator to the battery.
>>>
>>>The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
>
> lights
>
>>>usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
>>>terminals are a first part to look at.
>>>
>>>Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
>>>battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
>
> free.
>
>>>Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
>
> get
>
>>>a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
>>>above is 2 hours and $20.
>>>
>>>EganReich wrote:
>>>
>>>>Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>>>>be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>>>
>>>>Ok.
>>>>
>>>>About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>>>>They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>>>>battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>>>>it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>>>>successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>>>
>>>>Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>>>>replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>>>>dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>>>>on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>>>>running.
>>>>
>>>>But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>>>>to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>>>>alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>>>>for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>>>>car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>>>>light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>>>>leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>>>>a short time.
>>>>
>>>>If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>>>>replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>>>>starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>>>
>>>>I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>>>>connection from the battery? What?
>>>>
>>>>Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>>>
>>>>Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
would get there first :) But flickering lights does point to a bad
ground strap!
Earle Horton wrote:
> Someone should mention the engine to body ground strap before Mike does.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b5934$45d929e5$422afc51$6757@FUSE.NET...
>
>>And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
>>>aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
>
> is
>
>>>the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
>>>alternator to the battery.
>>>
>>>The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
>
> lights
>
>>>usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
>>>terminals are a first part to look at.
>>>
>>>Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
>>>battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
>
> free.
>
>>>Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
>
> get
>
>>>a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
>>>above is 2 hours and $20.
>>>
>>>EganReich wrote:
>>>
>>>>Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>>>>be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>>>
>>>>Ok.
>>>>
>>>>About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>>>>They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>>>>battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>>>>it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>>>>successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>>>
>>>>Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>>>>replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>>>>dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>>>>on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>>>>running.
>>>>
>>>>But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>>>>to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>>>>alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>>>>for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>>>>car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>>>>light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>>>>leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>>>>a short time.
>>>>
>>>>If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>>>>replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>>>>starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>>>
>>>>I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>>>>connection from the battery? What?
>>>>
>>>>Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>>>
>>>>Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Dead Battery (Alternator?) 1997 Jeep Wrangler...
I was thinking about sticking that tidbit in my response, figured Mike
would get there first :) But flickering lights does point to a bad
ground strap!
Earle Horton wrote:
> Someone should mention the engine to body ground strap before Mike does.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b5934$45d929e5$422afc51$6757@FUSE.NET...
>
>>And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
>>>aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
>
> is
>
>>>the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
>>>alternator to the battery.
>>>
>>>The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
>
> lights
>
>>>usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
>>>terminals are a first part to look at.
>>>
>>>Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
>>>battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
>
> free.
>
>>>Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
>
> get
>
>>>a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
>>>above is 2 hours and $20.
>>>
>>>EganReich wrote:
>>>
>>>>Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>>>>be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>>>
>>>>Ok.
>>>>
>>>>About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>>>>They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>>>>battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>>>>it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>>>>successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>>>
>>>>Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>>>>replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>>>>dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>>>>on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>>>>running.
>>>>
>>>>But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>>>>to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>>>>alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>>>>for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>>>>car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>>>>light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>>>>leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>>>>a short time.
>>>>
>>>>If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>>>>replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>>>>starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>>>
>>>>I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>>>>connection from the battery? What?
>>>>
>>>>Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>>>
>>>>Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
would get there first :) But flickering lights does point to a bad
ground strap!
Earle Horton wrote:
> Someone should mention the engine to body ground strap before Mike does.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b5934$45d929e5$422afc51$6757@FUSE.NET...
>
>>And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
>>>aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
>
> is
>
>>>the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
>>>alternator to the battery.
>>>
>>>The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
>
> lights
>
>>>usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
>>>terminals are a first part to look at.
>>>
>>>Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
>>>battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
>
> free.
>
>>>Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
>
> get
>
>>>a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
>>>above is 2 hours and $20.
>>>
>>>EganReich wrote:
>>>
>>>>Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>>>>be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>>>
>>>>Ok.
>>>>
>>>>About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>>>>They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>>>>battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>>>>it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>>>>successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>>>
>>>>Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>>>>replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>>>>dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>>>>on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>>>>running.
>>>>
>>>>But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>>>>to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>>>>alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>>>>for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>>>>car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>>>>light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>>>>leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>>>>a short time.
>>>>
>>>>If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>>>>replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>>>>starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>>>
>>>>I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>>>>connection from the battery? What?
>>>>
>>>>Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>>>
>>>>Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Dead Battery (Alternator?) 1997 Jeep Wrangler...
I was thinking about sticking that tidbit in my response, figured Mike
would get there first :) But flickering lights does point to a bad
ground strap!
Earle Horton wrote:
> Someone should mention the engine to body ground strap before Mike does.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b5934$45d929e5$422afc51$6757@FUSE.NET...
>
>>And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
>>>aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
>
> is
>
>>>the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
>>>alternator to the battery.
>>>
>>>The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
>
> lights
>
>>>usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
>>>terminals are a first part to look at.
>>>
>>>Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
>>>battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
>
> free.
>
>>>Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
>
> get
>
>>>a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
>>>above is 2 hours and $20.
>>>
>>>EganReich wrote:
>>>
>>>>Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>>>>be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>>>
>>>>Ok.
>>>>
>>>>About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>>>>They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>>>>battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>>>>it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>>>>successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>>>
>>>>Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>>>>replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>>>>dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>>>>on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>>>>running.
>>>>
>>>>But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>>>>to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>>>>alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>>>>for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>>>>car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>>>>light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>>>>leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>>>>a short time.
>>>>
>>>>If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>>>>replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>>>>starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>>>
>>>>I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>>>>connection from the battery? What?
>>>>
>>>>Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>>>
>>>>Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
would get there first :) But flickering lights does point to a bad
ground strap!
Earle Horton wrote:
> Someone should mention the engine to body ground strap before Mike does.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b5934$45d929e5$422afc51$6757@FUSE.NET...
>
>>And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
>>>aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
>
> is
>
>>>the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
>>>alternator to the battery.
>>>
>>>The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
>
> lights
>
>>>usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
>>>terminals are a first part to look at.
>>>
>>>Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
>>>battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
>
> free.
>
>>>Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
>
> get
>
>>>a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of the
>>>above is 2 hours and $20.
>>>
>>>EganReich wrote:
>>>
>>>>Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>>>>be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>>>
>>>>Ok.
>>>>
>>>>About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>>>>They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>>>>battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>>>>it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>>>>successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>>>
>>>>Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>>>>replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>>>>dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>>>>on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>>>>running.
>>>>
>>>>But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>>>>to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>>>>alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>>>>for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>>>>car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>>>>light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>>>>leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>>>>a short time.
>>>>
>>>>If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>>>>replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>>>>starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>>>
>>>>I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>>>>connection from the battery? What?
>>>>
>>>>Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>>>
>>>>Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Guest
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Re: Dead Battery (Alternator?) 1997 Jeep Wrangler...
Heh, I would have aimed him at the connections he replaced first....
The positive battery terminal clamp has 2 positive cables in it. These
two wires crammed into that clamp are usually a weak spot.
As a matter of fact I have to go and clean those 'exact' connections
today on my wife's Cherokee due to fluctuating charging with the lights
dimming and a 'bad' no start in the cold situation.
The sucker will turn over just fine, but it needs a boost to fire up!
That implies the smaller wire which controls the charging and fuse panel
isn't getting good enough power.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
RoyJ wrote:
> I was thinking about sticking that tidbit in my response, figured Mike
> would get there first :) But flickering lights does point to a bad
> ground strap!
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Someone should mention the engine to body ground strap before Mike does.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:b5934$45d929e5$422afc51$6757@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>> And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>>>
>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>> news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>>> I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
>>>> aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
>>
>> is
>>
>>>> the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
>>>> alternator to the battery.
>>>>
>>>> The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
>>
>> lights
>>
>>>> usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
>>>> terminals are a first part to look at.
>>>>
>>>> Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
>>>> battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
>>
>> free.
>>
>>>> Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
>>
>> get
>>
>>>> a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of
>>>> the
>>>> above is 2 hours and $20.
>>>>
>>>> EganReich wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>>>>> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>>>>> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>>>>> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>>>>> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>>>>> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>>>>
>>>>> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>>>>> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>>>>> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>>>>> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>>>>> running.
>>>>>
>>>>> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>>>>> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>>>>> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>>>>> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>>>>> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>>>>> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>>>>> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>>>>> a short time.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>>>>> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>>>>> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>>>>
>>>>> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>>>>> connection from the battery? What?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
The positive battery terminal clamp has 2 positive cables in it. These
two wires crammed into that clamp are usually a weak spot.
As a matter of fact I have to go and clean those 'exact' connections
today on my wife's Cherokee due to fluctuating charging with the lights
dimming and a 'bad' no start in the cold situation.
The sucker will turn over just fine, but it needs a boost to fire up!
That implies the smaller wire which controls the charging and fuse panel
isn't getting good enough power.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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RoyJ wrote:
> I was thinking about sticking that tidbit in my response, figured Mike
> would get there first :) But flickering lights does point to a bad
> ground strap!
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Someone should mention the engine to body ground strap before Mike does.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:b5934$45d929e5$422afc51$6757@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>> And buy the heaviest gauge cables you can afford.
>>>
>>> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>> news:rM9Ch.3226$x74.2159@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>>> I'm thinking that you have a bad cable, bad ground, etc that is
>>>> aggrevatating the alternator and battery. Pretyy much the whole system
>>
>> is
>>
>>>> the battery, alternator, 2 big cables, one smaller cable from the
>>>> alternator to the battery.
>>>>
>>>> The fact that the gauge seems to fluctuate on occassion and or dim
>>
>> lights
>>
>>>> usually means a cable is flexing and giving a poor connection. Repair
>>>> terminals are a first part to look at.
>>>>
>>>> Your local parts place will test the alternator for free. The local
>>>> battery place will test you battery (under load, after charging) for
>>
>> free.
>>
>>>> Someone else mentioned cables, just chuck out the repair terminals and
>>
>> get
>>
>>>> a pair of NEW battery cables with molded ends. Total cost for all of
>>>> the
>>>> above is 2 hours and $20.
>>>>
>>>> EganReich wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Let's see if I can find anything out here that will help. This will
>>>>> be a lot of information, maybe too much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> About a year ago, someone tried to steal the battery from my car.
>>>>> They cut the wires, and when they realized they couldn't remove the
>>>>> battery, they left it alone. (I know that someone was trying to steal
>>>>> it because the same night, my roomate's battery was stolen,
>>>>> successfully). I rigged up a new terminal and re-attached the wires.
>>>>>
>>>>> Later, the battery died. (It was old. So it seemed normal.) I
>>>>> replaced the battery, but after that the battery gauge sporadically
>>>>> dropped. It was fine for about a week, with the battery light coming
>>>>> on every once in a while, but it never affected how the car was
>>>>> running.
>>>>>
>>>>> But then the power failed, and I couldn't get it started again. I had
>>>>> to have it towed to the shop, where the mechanic replaced the
>>>>> alternator. (I had had a feeling that the alternator was a problem
>>>>> for some time, so it seemed like a sensible solution). I drove the
>>>>> car for two days after that, and now it's died again. The battery
>>>>> light comes on, the lights dim, and then I can't accelerate. If I
>>>>> leave it alone for a little while, it starts again, but only runs for
>>>>> a short time.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I assume that the alternator is fine (since I just had it
>>>>> replaced), what else could be the problem? Is it true that if the car
>>>>> starts, then the battery is probably ok?
>>>>>
>>>>> I really don't have any idea what the problem could be. Bad
>>>>> connection from the battery? What?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, the Jeep just died in the projects, which is pretty awesome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any help or advice would be enormously appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>