Dana44 for XJ
#21
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Re: Dana44 for XJ
Thanks,
I shall ask about the YJs here.
My computer's time is fine. I do not run Windows so this must be a Mozilla
thing. Your message is shown as 8.45pm which, if you have replied soon after
I had posted, was our local time.
Bertie.
============================
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It is rumored that all export YJs have the Dana 44, too.
> Many here convert to the 8.8", found in the small Fords, like the
> Mustang, Ranger, or Explorer:
> http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html
> Your computer's time is set for the U.S.of A's mid west. If you are
> running Windows, You may correct it by right clicking the time in your
> lower right cornner, time zone, Cairo (?) if that's in your Longitude.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace
>>the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South
>>Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are
>>scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not
>>be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ
>>parts but have a few questions:
>>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ?
>>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will
>>that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than
>>the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be
>>stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch
>>total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>>
>>Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>Bertie.
I shall ask about the YJs here.
My computer's time is fine. I do not run Windows so this must be a Mozilla
thing. Your message is shown as 8.45pm which, if you have replied soon after
I had posted, was our local time.
Bertie.
============================
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It is rumored that all export YJs have the Dana 44, too.
> Many here convert to the 8.8", found in the small Fords, like the
> Mustang, Ranger, or Explorer:
> http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html
> Your computer's time is set for the U.S.of A's mid west. If you are
> running Windows, You may correct it by right clicking the time in your
> lower right cornner, time zone, Cairo (?) if that's in your Longitude.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace
>>the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South
>>Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are
>>scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not
>>be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ
>>parts but have a few questions:
>>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ?
>>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will
>>that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than
>>the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be
>>stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch
>>total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>>
>>Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>Bertie.
#22
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Re: Dana44 for XJ
Thanks, D44 for the Grand Cherokees are plentiful here but I know about their
pitfalls - aluminium housing, C-clips and no upgrade path. The KJs have a
Chrysler 8.25 I think, also with C-clips. Other axles like Ford, Isuzu,
Toyota, etc. usually have six wheel bolts.
Bertie
===================
Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> Stay away from the Grand Cherokee D44.
> I don't think KJ's came with the D44 option.
> A TJ D44 will be fine but will require some fabrication (coil to leaf setup)
> Check for availability on the Isuzu 12 bolt in your area. Supposed to be
> stronger than the D44 and should be more abundant in your area.
>
> -Brian
>
>
> <Bertie Kemp> wrote in message news:OoOdnZixpt7dF8zfRVn-rg@is.co.za...
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>>replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
>>in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
>>Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful
>>and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to
>>base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a
>>TJ?
>>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build,
>>will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
>>than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated
>>to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me
>>1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>>
>>Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>Bertie.
>
>
>
pitfalls - aluminium housing, C-clips and no upgrade path. The KJs have a
Chrysler 8.25 I think, also with C-clips. Other axles like Ford, Isuzu,
Toyota, etc. usually have six wheel bolts.
Bertie
===================
Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> Stay away from the Grand Cherokee D44.
> I don't think KJ's came with the D44 option.
> A TJ D44 will be fine but will require some fabrication (coil to leaf setup)
> Check for availability on the Isuzu 12 bolt in your area. Supposed to be
> stronger than the D44 and should be more abundant in your area.
>
> -Brian
>
>
> <Bertie Kemp> wrote in message news:OoOdnZixpt7dF8zfRVn-rg@is.co.za...
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>>replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
>>in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
>>Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful
>>and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to
>>base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a
>>TJ?
>>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build,
>>will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
>>than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated
>>to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me
>>1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>>
>>Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>Bertie.
>
>
>
#23
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Re: Dana44 for XJ
Thanks, D44 for the Grand Cherokees are plentiful here but I know about their
pitfalls - aluminium housing, C-clips and no upgrade path. The KJs have a
Chrysler 8.25 I think, also with C-clips. Other axles like Ford, Isuzu,
Toyota, etc. usually have six wheel bolts.
Bertie
===================
Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> Stay away from the Grand Cherokee D44.
> I don't think KJ's came with the D44 option.
> A TJ D44 will be fine but will require some fabrication (coil to leaf setup)
> Check for availability on the Isuzu 12 bolt in your area. Supposed to be
> stronger than the D44 and should be more abundant in your area.
>
> -Brian
>
>
> <Bertie Kemp> wrote in message news:OoOdnZixpt7dF8zfRVn-rg@is.co.za...
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>>replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
>>in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
>>Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful
>>and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to
>>base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a
>>TJ?
>>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build,
>>will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
>>than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated
>>to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me
>>1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>>
>>Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>Bertie.
>
>
>
pitfalls - aluminium housing, C-clips and no upgrade path. The KJs have a
Chrysler 8.25 I think, also with C-clips. Other axles like Ford, Isuzu,
Toyota, etc. usually have six wheel bolts.
Bertie
===================
Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> Stay away from the Grand Cherokee D44.
> I don't think KJ's came with the D44 option.
> A TJ D44 will be fine but will require some fabrication (coil to leaf setup)
> Check for availability on the Isuzu 12 bolt in your area. Supposed to be
> stronger than the D44 and should be more abundant in your area.
>
> -Brian
>
>
> <Bertie Kemp> wrote in message news:OoOdnZixpt7dF8zfRVn-rg@is.co.za...
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>>replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
>>in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
>>Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful
>>and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to
>>base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a
>>TJ?
>>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build,
>>will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
>>than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated
>>to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me
>>1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>>
>>Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>Bertie.
>
>
>
#24
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Re: Dana44 for XJ
Thanks, D44 for the Grand Cherokees are plentiful here but I know about their
pitfalls - aluminium housing, C-clips and no upgrade path. The KJs have a
Chrysler 8.25 I think, also with C-clips. Other axles like Ford, Isuzu,
Toyota, etc. usually have six wheel bolts.
Bertie
===================
Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> Stay away from the Grand Cherokee D44.
> I don't think KJ's came with the D44 option.
> A TJ D44 will be fine but will require some fabrication (coil to leaf setup)
> Check for availability on the Isuzu 12 bolt in your area. Supposed to be
> stronger than the D44 and should be more abundant in your area.
>
> -Brian
>
>
> <Bertie Kemp> wrote in message news:OoOdnZixpt7dF8zfRVn-rg@is.co.za...
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>>replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
>>in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
>>Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful
>>and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to
>>base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a
>>TJ?
>>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build,
>>will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
>>than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated
>>to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me
>>1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>>
>>Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>Bertie.
>
>
>
pitfalls - aluminium housing, C-clips and no upgrade path. The KJs have a
Chrysler 8.25 I think, also with C-clips. Other axles like Ford, Isuzu,
Toyota, etc. usually have six wheel bolts.
Bertie
===================
Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> Stay away from the Grand Cherokee D44.
> I don't think KJ's came with the D44 option.
> A TJ D44 will be fine but will require some fabrication (coil to leaf setup)
> Check for availability on the Isuzu 12 bolt in your area. Supposed to be
> stronger than the D44 and should be more abundant in your area.
>
> -Brian
>
>
> <Bertie Kemp> wrote in message news:OoOdnZixpt7dF8zfRVn-rg@is.co.za...
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>>replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
>>in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
>>Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful
>>and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to
>>base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a
>>TJ?
>>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build,
>>will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
>>than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated
>>to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me
>>1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>>
>>Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>Bertie.
>
>
>
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Dana44 for XJ
Thanks, D44 for the Grand Cherokees are plentiful here but I know about their
pitfalls - aluminium housing, C-clips and no upgrade path. The KJs have a
Chrysler 8.25 I think, also with C-clips. Other axles like Ford, Isuzu,
Toyota, etc. usually have six wheel bolts.
Bertie
===================
Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> Stay away from the Grand Cherokee D44.
> I don't think KJ's came with the D44 option.
> A TJ D44 will be fine but will require some fabrication (coil to leaf setup)
> Check for availability on the Isuzu 12 bolt in your area. Supposed to be
> stronger than the D44 and should be more abundant in your area.
>
> -Brian
>
>
> <Bertie Kemp> wrote in message news:OoOdnZixpt7dF8zfRVn-rg@is.co.za...
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>>replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
>>in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
>>Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful
>>and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to
>>base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a
>>TJ?
>>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build,
>>will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
>>than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated
>>to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me
>>1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>>
>>Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>Bertie.
>
>
>
pitfalls - aluminium housing, C-clips and no upgrade path. The KJs have a
Chrysler 8.25 I think, also with C-clips. Other axles like Ford, Isuzu,
Toyota, etc. usually have six wheel bolts.
Bertie
===================
Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> Stay away from the Grand Cherokee D44.
> I don't think KJ's came with the D44 option.
> A TJ D44 will be fine but will require some fabrication (coil to leaf setup)
> Check for availability on the Isuzu 12 bolt in your area. Supposed to be
> stronger than the D44 and should be more abundant in your area.
>
> -Brian
>
>
> <Bertie Kemp> wrote in message news:OoOdnZixpt7dF8zfRVn-rg@is.co.za...
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>>replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
>>in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
>>Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful
>>and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to
>>base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a
>>TJ?
>>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build,
>>will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
>>than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated
>>to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me
>>1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>>
>>Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>Bertie.
>
>
>
#26
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Re: Dana44 for XJ
Thanks, you confirm my suspicions (hopes). So a right-hand shaft is not
weaker when fitted to the left-hand side and asked to torque in its opposite
direction?
My Jeep is lifted (about 3" in the back).
Bertie.
============
Steve wrote:
> XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
> interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ
> housing has thicker OD tubes.
>
> I don't see any problem building your own housing with centered diff to
> use two RH shafts. Any effect on lateral driveline angle is negligible.
>
> Note that the D44 pinion is 1" longer than the D35. If you are lifted,
> this is great, otherwise you may need a shortened drive shaft.
>
> Other D44 donors to consider are Toyota Tacoma and Isuzu Rodeo.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> "Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available
>> here in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.).
>> Older Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more
>> plentiful and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I
>> would like to base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and
>> a TJ?
>> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I
>> build, will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly
>> shorter than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these
>> shafts treated to be stronger in their designed rotational direction?
>> This could gain me 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry
>> one spare shaft.)
>>
>> Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>> Bertie.
weaker when fitted to the left-hand side and asked to torque in its opposite
direction?
My Jeep is lifted (about 3" in the back).
Bertie.
============
Steve wrote:
> XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
> interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ
> housing has thicker OD tubes.
>
> I don't see any problem building your own housing with centered diff to
> use two RH shafts. Any effect on lateral driveline angle is negligible.
>
> Note that the D44 pinion is 1" longer than the D35. If you are lifted,
> this is great, otherwise you may need a shortened drive shaft.
>
> Other D44 donors to consider are Toyota Tacoma and Isuzu Rodeo.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> "Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available
>> here in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.).
>> Older Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more
>> plentiful and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I
>> would like to base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and
>> a TJ?
>> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I
>> build, will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly
>> shorter than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these
>> shafts treated to be stronger in their designed rotational direction?
>> This could gain me 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry
>> one spare shaft.)
>>
>> Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>> Bertie.
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Dana44 for XJ
Thanks, you confirm my suspicions (hopes). So a right-hand shaft is not
weaker when fitted to the left-hand side and asked to torque in its opposite
direction?
My Jeep is lifted (about 3" in the back).
Bertie.
============
Steve wrote:
> XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
> interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ
> housing has thicker OD tubes.
>
> I don't see any problem building your own housing with centered diff to
> use two RH shafts. Any effect on lateral driveline angle is negligible.
>
> Note that the D44 pinion is 1" longer than the D35. If you are lifted,
> this is great, otherwise you may need a shortened drive shaft.
>
> Other D44 donors to consider are Toyota Tacoma and Isuzu Rodeo.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> "Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available
>> here in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.).
>> Older Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more
>> plentiful and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I
>> would like to base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and
>> a TJ?
>> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I
>> build, will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly
>> shorter than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these
>> shafts treated to be stronger in their designed rotational direction?
>> This could gain me 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry
>> one spare shaft.)
>>
>> Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>> Bertie.
weaker when fitted to the left-hand side and asked to torque in its opposite
direction?
My Jeep is lifted (about 3" in the back).
Bertie.
============
Steve wrote:
> XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
> interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ
> housing has thicker OD tubes.
>
> I don't see any problem building your own housing with centered diff to
> use two RH shafts. Any effect on lateral driveline angle is negligible.
>
> Note that the D44 pinion is 1" longer than the D35. If you are lifted,
> this is great, otherwise you may need a shortened drive shaft.
>
> Other D44 donors to consider are Toyota Tacoma and Isuzu Rodeo.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> "Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available
>> here in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.).
>> Older Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more
>> plentiful and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I
>> would like to base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and
>> a TJ?
>> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I
>> build, will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly
>> shorter than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these
>> shafts treated to be stronger in their designed rotational direction?
>> This could gain me 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry
>> one spare shaft.)
>>
>> Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>> Bertie.
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Re: Dana44 for XJ
Thanks, you confirm my suspicions (hopes). So a right-hand shaft is not
weaker when fitted to the left-hand side and asked to torque in its opposite
direction?
My Jeep is lifted (about 3" in the back).
Bertie.
============
Steve wrote:
> XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
> interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ
> housing has thicker OD tubes.
>
> I don't see any problem building your own housing with centered diff to
> use two RH shafts. Any effect on lateral driveline angle is negligible.
>
> Note that the D44 pinion is 1" longer than the D35. If you are lifted,
> this is great, otherwise you may need a shortened drive shaft.
>
> Other D44 donors to consider are Toyota Tacoma and Isuzu Rodeo.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> "Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available
>> here in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.).
>> Older Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more
>> plentiful and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I
>> would like to base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and
>> a TJ?
>> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I
>> build, will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly
>> shorter than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these
>> shafts treated to be stronger in their designed rotational direction?
>> This could gain me 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry
>> one spare shaft.)
>>
>> Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>> Bertie.
weaker when fitted to the left-hand side and asked to torque in its opposite
direction?
My Jeep is lifted (about 3" in the back).
Bertie.
============
Steve wrote:
> XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
> interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ
> housing has thicker OD tubes.
>
> I don't see any problem building your own housing with centered diff to
> use two RH shafts. Any effect on lateral driveline angle is negligible.
>
> Note that the D44 pinion is 1" longer than the D35. If you are lifted,
> this is great, otherwise you may need a shortened drive shaft.
>
> Other D44 donors to consider are Toyota Tacoma and Isuzu Rodeo.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> "Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available
>> here in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.).
>> Older Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more
>> plentiful and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I
>> would like to base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and
>> a TJ?
>> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I
>> build, will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly
>> shorter than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these
>> shafts treated to be stronger in their designed rotational direction?
>> This could gain me 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry
>> one spare shaft.)
>>
>> Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>> Bertie.
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Re: Dana44 for XJ
Thanks, you confirm my suspicions (hopes). So a right-hand shaft is not
weaker when fitted to the left-hand side and asked to torque in its opposite
direction?
My Jeep is lifted (about 3" in the back).
Bertie.
============
Steve wrote:
> XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
> interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ
> housing has thicker OD tubes.
>
> I don't see any problem building your own housing with centered diff to
> use two RH shafts. Any effect on lateral driveline angle is negligible.
>
> Note that the D44 pinion is 1" longer than the D35. If you are lifted,
> this is great, otherwise you may need a shortened drive shaft.
>
> Other D44 donors to consider are Toyota Tacoma and Isuzu Rodeo.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> "Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available
>> here in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.).
>> Older Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more
>> plentiful and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I
>> would like to base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and
>> a TJ?
>> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I
>> build, will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly
>> shorter than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these
>> shafts treated to be stronger in their designed rotational direction?
>> This could gain me 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry
>> one spare shaft.)
>>
>> Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>> Bertie.
weaker when fitted to the left-hand side and asked to torque in its opposite
direction?
My Jeep is lifted (about 3" in the back).
Bertie.
============
Steve wrote:
> XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
> interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ
> housing has thicker OD tubes.
>
> I don't see any problem building your own housing with centered diff to
> use two RH shafts. Any effect on lateral driveline angle is negligible.
>
> Note that the D44 pinion is 1" longer than the D35. If you are lifted,
> this is great, otherwise you may need a shortened drive shaft.
>
> Other D44 donors to consider are Toyota Tacoma and Isuzu Rodeo.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> "Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
>> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available
>> here in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.).
>> Older Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more
>> plentiful and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I
>> would like to base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
>> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and
>> a TJ?
>> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I
>> build, will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
>> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
>> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly
>> shorter than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these
>> shafts treated to be stronger in their designed rotational direction?
>> This could gain me 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry
>> one spare shaft.)
>>
>> Comments will be appreciated.
>>
>> Bertie.
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Re: Dana44 for XJ
I've never heard of shafts being cut, rolled, or tempered for
directional strength. Many rear ends have equal length on both sides.
Those have one part number for both the right and left axle shafts.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
"Bertie Kemp" wrote:
> Thanks, you confirm my suspicions (hopes). So a right-hand shaft is not
> weaker when fitted to the left-hand side and asked to torque in its
> opposite direction?
> My Jeep is lifted (about 3" in the back).
>
> Bertie.
>
> ============
> Steve wrote:
>
>> XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
>> interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ
>> housing has thicker OD tubes.
directional strength. Many rear ends have equal length on both sides.
Those have one part number for both the right and left axle shafts.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
"Bertie Kemp" wrote:
> Thanks, you confirm my suspicions (hopes). So a right-hand shaft is not
> weaker when fitted to the left-hand side and asked to torque in its
> opposite direction?
> My Jeep is lifted (about 3" in the back).
>
> Bertie.
>
> ============
> Steve wrote:
>
>> XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
>> interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ
>> housing has thicker OD tubes.