Re: Dana44 for XJ
 

Stay away from the Grand Cherokee D44.
I don't think KJ's came with the D44 option.
A TJ D44 will be fine but will require some fabrication (coil to leaf setup)
Check for availability on the Isuzu 12 bolt in your area. Supposed to be
stronger than the D44 and should be more abundant in your area.

-Brian


<Bertie Kemp> wrote in message news:OoOdnZixpt7dF8zfRVn-rg@is.co.za...
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
> in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
> Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful
> and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to
> base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a
> TJ?
> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build,
> will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
> than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated
> to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me
> 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>
> Comments will be appreciated.
>
> Bertie.

Re: Dana44 for XJ
 

Stay away from the Grand Cherokee D44.
I don't think KJ's came with the D44 option.
A TJ D44 will be fine but will require some fabrication (coil to leaf setup)
Check for availability on the Isuzu 12 bolt in your area. Supposed to be
stronger than the D44 and should be more abundant in your area.

-Brian


<Bertie Kemp> wrote in message news:OoOdnZixpt7dF8zfRVn-rg@is.co.za...
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
> in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
> Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful
> and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to
> base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a
> TJ?
> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build,
> will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
> than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated
> to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me
> 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>
> Comments will be appreciated.
>
> Bertie.

Re: Dana44 for XJ
 

Stay away from the Grand Cherokee D44.
I don't think KJ's came with the D44 option.
A TJ D44 will be fine but will require some fabrication (coil to leaf setup)
Check for availability on the Isuzu 12 bolt in your area. Supposed to be
stronger than the D44 and should be more abundant in your area.

-Brian


<Bertie Kemp> wrote in message news:OoOdnZixpt7dF8zfRVn-rg@is.co.za...
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
> in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
> Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful
> and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to
> base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a
> TJ?
> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build,
> will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
> than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated
> to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me
> 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>
> Comments will be appreciated.
>
> Bertie.

Re: Dana44 for XJ
 

Stay away from the Grand Cherokee D44.
I don't think KJ's came with the D44 option.
A TJ D44 will be fine but will require some fabrication (coil to leaf setup)
Check for availability on the Isuzu 12 bolt in your area. Supposed to be
stronger than the D44 and should be more abundant in your area.

-Brian


<Bertie Kemp> wrote in message news:OoOdnZixpt7dF8zfRVn-rg@is.co.za...
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
> in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
> Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful
> and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to
> base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a
> TJ?
> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build,
> will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
> than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated
> to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me
> 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>
> Comments will be appreciated.
>
> Bertie.

Re: Dana44 for XJ
 

It is rumored that all export YJs have the Dana 44, too.
Many here convert to the 8.8", found in the small Fords, like the
Mustang, Ranger, or Explorer:
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html
Your computer's time is set for the U.S.of A's mid west. If you are
running Windows, You may correct it by right clicking the time in your
lower right cornner, time zone, Cairo (?) if that's in your Longitude.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace
> the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South
> Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are
> scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not
> be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ
> parts but have a few questions:
> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ?
> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will
> that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than
> the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be
> stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch
> total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>
> Comments will be appreciated.
>
> Bertie.

Re: Dana44 for XJ
 

It is rumored that all export YJs have the Dana 44, too.
Many here convert to the 8.8", found in the small Fords, like the
Mustang, Ranger, or Explorer:
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html
Your computer's time is set for the U.S.of A's mid west. If you are
running Windows, You may correct it by right clicking the time in your
lower right cornner, time zone, Cairo (?) if that's in your Longitude.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace
> the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South
> Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are
> scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not
> be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ
> parts but have a few questions:
> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ?
> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will
> that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than
> the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be
> stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch
> total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>
> Comments will be appreciated.
>
> Bertie.

Re: Dana44 for XJ
 

It is rumored that all export YJs have the Dana 44, too.
Many here convert to the 8.8", found in the small Fords, like the
Mustang, Ranger, or Explorer:
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html
Your computer's time is set for the U.S.of A's mid west. If you are
running Windows, You may correct it by right clicking the time in your
lower right cornner, time zone, Cairo (?) if that's in your Longitude.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace
> the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South
> Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are
> scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not
> be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ
> parts but have a few questions:
> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ?
> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will
> that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than
> the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be
> stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch
> total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>
> Comments will be appreciated.
>
> Bertie.

Re: Dana44 for XJ
 

It is rumored that all export YJs have the Dana 44, too.
Many here convert to the 8.8", found in the small Fords, like the
Mustang, Ranger, or Explorer:
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html
Your computer's time is set for the U.S.of A's mid west. If you are
running Windows, You may correct it by right clicking the time in your
lower right cornner, time zone, Cairo (?) if that's in your Longitude.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Bertie Kemp" wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace
> the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South
> Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are
> scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not
> be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ
> parts but have a few questions:
> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ?
> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will
> that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than
> the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be
> stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch
> total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.)
>
> Comments will be appreciated.
>
> Bertie.

Re: Dana44 for XJ
 

XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ
housing has thicker OD tubes.

I don't see any problem building your own housing with centered diff to
use two RH shafts. Any effect on lateral driveline angle is negligible.

Note that the D44 pinion is 1" longer than the D35. If you are lifted,
this is great, otherwise you may need a shortened drive shaft.

Other D44 donors to consider are Toyota Tacoma and Isuzu Rodeo.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


"Bertie Kemp" wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
> in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
> Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more
> plentiful and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I
> would like to base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ?
> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I
> build, will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
> than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts
> treated to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This
> could gain me 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one
> spare shaft.)
>
> Comments will be appreciated.
>
> Bertie.

Re: Dana44 for XJ
 

XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ
housing has thicker OD tubes.

I don't see any problem building your own housing with centered diff to
use two RH shafts. Any effect on lateral driveline angle is negligible.

Note that the D44 pinion is 1" longer than the D35. If you are lifted,
this is great, otherwise you may need a shortened drive shaft.

Other D44 donors to consider are Toyota Tacoma and Isuzu Rodeo.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


"Bertie Kemp" wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to
> replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here
> in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older
> Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more
> plentiful and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I
> would like to base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions:
> 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ?
> (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I
> build, will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.)
> 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts?
> (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter
> than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts
> treated to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This
> could gain me 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one
> spare shaft.)
>
> Comments will be appreciated.
>
> Bertie.