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Re: Dana44 for XJ
XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ housing has thicker OD tubes. I don't see any problem building your own housing with centered diff to use two RH shafts. Any effect on lateral driveline angle is negligible. Note that the D44 pinion is 1" longer than the D35. If you are lifted, this is great, otherwise you may need a shortened drive shaft. Other D44 donors to consider are Toyota Tacoma and Isuzu Rodeo. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org "Bertie Kemp" wrote: > Hello, > > I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to > replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here > in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older > Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more > plentiful and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I > would like to base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions: > 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ? > (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I > build, will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.) > 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts? > (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter > than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts > treated to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This > could gain me 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one > spare shaft.) > > Comments will be appreciated. > > Bertie. |
Re: Dana44 for XJ
XJ and TJ have the same track width. The D44 shafts from each are
interchangeable, but the backing plates are different because the XJ housing has thicker OD tubes. I don't see any problem building your own housing with centered diff to use two RH shafts. Any effect on lateral driveline angle is negligible. Note that the D44 pinion is 1" longer than the D35. If you are lifted, this is great, otherwise you may need a shortened drive shaft. Other D44 donors to consider are Toyota Tacoma and Isuzu Rodeo. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org "Bertie Kemp" wrote: > Hello, > > I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to > replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here > in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older > Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more > plentiful and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I > would like to base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions: > 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ? > (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I > build, will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.) > 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts? > (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter > than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts > treated to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This > could gain me 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one > spare shaft.) > > Comments will be appreciated. > > Bertie. |
Dana44 for XJ
Hello,
I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ parts but have a few questions: 1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ? (If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.) 2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts? (I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.) Comments will be appreciated. Bertie. |
Re: Dana44 for XJ
Yes, I run Netscape too, but is your Operating System, that's place
you enter your time zone, like where you are on this earth compared to Greenwich, England, so we may all be on the same page. This is what we see: http://www.----------.com/wrongTime.jpg you posted at 4/5/05 2:49 AM, well it's only 4/4/05 10:49 PM PDT and it throws our news order out of sequence. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "Bertie Kemp" wrote: > > Thanks, > I shall ask about the YJs here. > My computer's time is fine. I do not run Windows so this must be a Mozilla > thing. Your message is shown as 8.45pm which, if you have replied soon after > I had posted, was our local time. > > Bertie. > > ============================ > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > > It is rumored that all export YJs have the Dana 44, too. > > Many here convert to the 8.8", found in the small Fords, like the > > Mustang, Ranger, or Explorer: > > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html > > Your computer's time is set for the U.S.of A's mid west. If you are > > running Windows, You may correct it by right clicking the time in your > > lower right cornner, time zone, Cairo (?) if that's in your Longitude. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > "Bertie Kemp" wrote: > > > >>Hello, > >> > >>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace > >>the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South > >>Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are > >>scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not > >>be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ > >>parts but have a few questions: > >>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ? > >>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will > >>that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.) > >>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts? > >>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than > >>the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be > >>stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch > >>total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.) > >> > >>Comments will be appreciated. > >> > >>Bertie. |
Re: Dana44 for XJ
Yes, I run Netscape too, but is your Operating System, that's place
you enter your time zone, like where you are on this earth compared to Greenwich, England, so we may all be on the same page. This is what we see: http://www.----------.com/wrongTime.jpg you posted at 4/5/05 2:49 AM, well it's only 4/4/05 10:49 PM PDT and it throws our news order out of sequence. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "Bertie Kemp" wrote: > > Thanks, > I shall ask about the YJs here. > My computer's time is fine. I do not run Windows so this must be a Mozilla > thing. Your message is shown as 8.45pm which, if you have replied soon after > I had posted, was our local time. > > Bertie. > > ============================ > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > > It is rumored that all export YJs have the Dana 44, too. > > Many here convert to the 8.8", found in the small Fords, like the > > Mustang, Ranger, or Explorer: > > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html > > Your computer's time is set for the U.S.of A's mid west. If you are > > running Windows, You may correct it by right clicking the time in your > > lower right cornner, time zone, Cairo (?) if that's in your Longitude. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > "Bertie Kemp" wrote: > > > >>Hello, > >> > >>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace > >>the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South > >>Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are > >>scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not > >>be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ > >>parts but have a few questions: > >>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ? > >>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will > >>that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.) > >>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts? > >>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than > >>the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be > >>stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch > >>total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.) > >> > >>Comments will be appreciated. > >> > >>Bertie. |
Re: Dana44 for XJ
Yes, I run Netscape too, but is your Operating System, that's place
you enter your time zone, like where you are on this earth compared to Greenwich, England, so we may all be on the same page. This is what we see: http://www.----------.com/wrongTime.jpg you posted at 4/5/05 2:49 AM, well it's only 4/4/05 10:49 PM PDT and it throws our news order out of sequence. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "Bertie Kemp" wrote: > > Thanks, > I shall ask about the YJs here. > My computer's time is fine. I do not run Windows so this must be a Mozilla > thing. Your message is shown as 8.45pm which, if you have replied soon after > I had posted, was our local time. > > Bertie. > > ============================ > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > > It is rumored that all export YJs have the Dana 44, too. > > Many here convert to the 8.8", found in the small Fords, like the > > Mustang, Ranger, or Explorer: > > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html > > Your computer's time is set for the U.S.of A's mid west. If you are > > running Windows, You may correct it by right clicking the time in your > > lower right cornner, time zone, Cairo (?) if that's in your Longitude. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > "Bertie Kemp" wrote: > > > >>Hello, > >> > >>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace > >>the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South > >>Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are > >>scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not > >>be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ > >>parts but have a few questions: > >>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ? > >>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will > >>that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.) > >>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts? > >>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than > >>the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be > >>stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch > >>total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.) > >> > >>Comments will be appreciated. > >> > >>Bertie. |
Re: Dana44 for XJ
Yes, I run Netscape too, but is your Operating System, that's place
you enter your time zone, like where you are on this earth compared to Greenwich, England, so we may all be on the same page. This is what we see: http://www.----------.com/wrongTime.jpg you posted at 4/5/05 2:49 AM, well it's only 4/4/05 10:49 PM PDT and it throws our news order out of sequence. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "Bertie Kemp" wrote: > > Thanks, > I shall ask about the YJs here. > My computer's time is fine. I do not run Windows so this must be a Mozilla > thing. Your message is shown as 8.45pm which, if you have replied soon after > I had posted, was our local time. > > Bertie. > > ============================ > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > > It is rumored that all export YJs have the Dana 44, too. > > Many here convert to the 8.8", found in the small Fords, like the > > Mustang, Ranger, or Explorer: > > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html > > Your computer's time is set for the U.S.of A's mid west. If you are > > running Windows, You may correct it by right clicking the time in your > > lower right cornner, time zone, Cairo (?) if that's in your Longitude. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > "Bertie Kemp" wrote: > > > >>Hello, > >> > >>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace > >>the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South > >>Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are > >>scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not > >>be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ > >>parts but have a few questions: > >>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ? > >>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will > >>that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.) > >>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts? > >>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than > >>the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be > >>stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch > >>total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.) > >> > >>Comments will be appreciated. > >> > >>Bertie. |
Re: Dana44 for XJ
Thanks,
I shall ask about the YJs here. My computer's time is fine. I do not run Windows so this must be a Mozilla thing. Your message is shown as 8.45pm which, if you have replied soon after I had posted, was our local time. Bertie. ============================ L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > It is rumored that all export YJs have the Dana 44, too. > Many here convert to the 8.8", found in the small Fords, like the > Mustang, Ranger, or Explorer: > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html > Your computer's time is set for the U.S.of A's mid west. If you are > running Windows, You may correct it by right clicking the time in your > lower right cornner, time zone, Cairo (?) if that's in your Longitude. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Bertie Kemp" wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace >>the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South >>Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are >>scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not >>be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ >>parts but have a few questions: >>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ? >>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will >>that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.) >>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts? >>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than >>the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be >>stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch >>total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.) >> >>Comments will be appreciated. >> >>Bertie. |
Re: Dana44 for XJ
Thanks,
I shall ask about the YJs here. My computer's time is fine. I do not run Windows so this must be a Mozilla thing. Your message is shown as 8.45pm which, if you have replied soon after I had posted, was our local time. Bertie. ============================ L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > It is rumored that all export YJs have the Dana 44, too. > Many here convert to the 8.8", found in the small Fords, like the > Mustang, Ranger, or Explorer: > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html > Your computer's time is set for the U.S.of A's mid west. If you are > running Windows, You may correct it by right clicking the time in your > lower right cornner, time zone, Cairo (?) if that's in your Longitude. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Bertie Kemp" wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace >>the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South >>Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are >>scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not >>be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ >>parts but have a few questions: >>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ? >>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will >>that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.) >>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts? >>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than >>the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be >>stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch >>total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.) >> >>Comments will be appreciated. >> >>Bertie. |
Re: Dana44 for XJ
Thanks,
I shall ask about the YJs here. My computer's time is fine. I do not run Windows so this must be a Mozilla thing. Your message is shown as 8.45pm which, if you have replied soon after I had posted, was our local time. Bertie. ============================ L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > It is rumored that all export YJs have the Dana 44, too. > Many here convert to the 8.8", found in the small Fords, like the > Mustang, Ranger, or Explorer: > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html > Your computer's time is set for the U.S.of A's mid west. If you are > running Windows, You may correct it by right clicking the time in your > lower right cornner, time zone, Cairo (?) if that's in your Longitude. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Bertie Kemp" wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>I have a 2000 model XJ with a D35c rear axle (ratio 3.73). I plan to replace >>the axle with a D44 but there are limited options available here in South >>Africa (no real XJ D44s, no Scouts or Explorers, etc.). Older Jeeps are >>scarce but recent models of ZJs, KJs and TJs are more plentiful and should not >>be difficult to find parts for. Therefor I would like to base the D44 on TJ >>parts but have a few questions: >>1 - Is there a difference in width between the rear axle of an XJ and a TJ? >>(If I use TJ shafts in whatever D44 pumpkin and customised tubes I build, will >>that fit underneath my XJ? I have no room to go narrower.) >>2 - Can I build the axle using two right-hand shafts? >>(I see that the left-hand shaft of a TJ D44 (29-1/4) is slightly shorter than >>the right-hand shaft (29-11/16). (Why?) Or are these shafts treated to be >>stronger in their designed rotational direction? This could gain me 1/2 inch >>total width and I would only need to carry one spare shaft.) >> >>Comments will be appreciated. >> >>Bertie. |
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