Crappy gas mileage
05-23-2004, 02:51 PM
#51
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Posts: n/a
Re: Crappy gas mileage
That's what they are SUPPOSED to be doing. There are a couple of problems
with that, though:
1. I didn't buy it at this dealership. So what is their incentive to do
"above and beyond?"(although I've purchased two cars from them about 3-5
years ago)
2. It isn't under warranty anymore. The cat is due to the 7 year emissions
warranty, but that's it.
Also, I know there wasn't any damage to the cat from outside hazards. I
looked it over myself. Besides, it's very well protected by the stock skid
plate. Wow, that seems kind of strange to say.. "very well protected by a
stock...". ;-)
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c8qaio01pac@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Not really an unusual situation, aside from being a low volume repalcement
> item (modern cats are very robust and don't fail with any regularity) cats
> are really expensive for a dealer to keep in stock.
>
> What usually causes a cat to fail is outside influence (a rock or other
road
> hazard). Most modern systems go into some form of limp home mode that will
> prevent the cat from loading up with fuel and overheating. Unless it's
clear
> that it failed from being struck from the outside, it would be sensible to
> have a knowledeable tech check this thing out with proper diagnostiocs
eqpt
> before you replace the cat.
>
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:Hs1sc.18949$KO2.12542@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > I told the stealership to check it out... .I sure hope I didn't trash
> > anything. I had no choice but to wait until now to get it fixed. The
> > problem didn't start until I was at OTS, then I had to get home
somehow...
> > really no problem until Thursday. Then I took it in. Any idea how to
> check
> > the valves??
> >
> > By the way, apparently the nearest cat at ANY dealer is in Arizona (I'm
in
> > San Antonio). What the heck is that about? Dealers don't stock them???
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40AFB247.FCD6FC93@***.net...
> > > You know you've probably already cooked your exhaust valves in
your
> > > procrastination.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Eric wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I got 4.5 MPG (nope, not a typo) on Thursday in my 99 TJ! 92 miles
> and
> > it
> > > > was going on E.
> > > >
> > > > Freakin' catalytic converters..
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >
>
>
with that, though:
1. I didn't buy it at this dealership. So what is their incentive to do
"above and beyond?"(although I've purchased two cars from them about 3-5
years ago)
2. It isn't under warranty anymore. The cat is due to the 7 year emissions
warranty, but that's it.
Also, I know there wasn't any damage to the cat from outside hazards. I
looked it over myself. Besides, it's very well protected by the stock skid
plate. Wow, that seems kind of strange to say.. "very well protected by a
stock...". ;-)
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c8qaio01pac@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Not really an unusual situation, aside from being a low volume repalcement
> item (modern cats are very robust and don't fail with any regularity) cats
> are really expensive for a dealer to keep in stock.
>
> What usually causes a cat to fail is outside influence (a rock or other
road
> hazard). Most modern systems go into some form of limp home mode that will
> prevent the cat from loading up with fuel and overheating. Unless it's
clear
> that it failed from being struck from the outside, it would be sensible to
> have a knowledeable tech check this thing out with proper diagnostiocs
eqpt
> before you replace the cat.
>
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:Hs1sc.18949$KO2.12542@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > I told the stealership to check it out... .I sure hope I didn't trash
> > anything. I had no choice but to wait until now to get it fixed. The
> > problem didn't start until I was at OTS, then I had to get home
somehow...
> > really no problem until Thursday. Then I took it in. Any idea how to
> check
> > the valves??
> >
> > By the way, apparently the nearest cat at ANY dealer is in Arizona (I'm
in
> > San Antonio). What the heck is that about? Dealers don't stock them???
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40AFB247.FCD6FC93@***.net...
> > > You know you've probably already cooked your exhaust valves in
your
> > > procrastination.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Eric wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I got 4.5 MPG (nope, not a typo) on Thursday in my 99 TJ! 92 miles
> and
> > it
> > > > was going on E.
> > > >
> > > > Freakin' catalytic converters..
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >
>
>
05-23-2004, 02:51 PM
#52
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Crappy gas mileage
That's what they are SUPPOSED to be doing. There are a couple of problems
with that, though:
1. I didn't buy it at this dealership. So what is their incentive to do
"above and beyond?"(although I've purchased two cars from them about 3-5
years ago)
2. It isn't under warranty anymore. The cat is due to the 7 year emissions
warranty, but that's it.
Also, I know there wasn't any damage to the cat from outside hazards. I
looked it over myself. Besides, it's very well protected by the stock skid
plate. Wow, that seems kind of strange to say.. "very well protected by a
stock...". ;-)
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c8qaio01pac@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Not really an unusual situation, aside from being a low volume repalcement
> item (modern cats are very robust and don't fail with any regularity) cats
> are really expensive for a dealer to keep in stock.
>
> What usually causes a cat to fail is outside influence (a rock or other
road
> hazard). Most modern systems go into some form of limp home mode that will
> prevent the cat from loading up with fuel and overheating. Unless it's
clear
> that it failed from being struck from the outside, it would be sensible to
> have a knowledeable tech check this thing out with proper diagnostiocs
eqpt
> before you replace the cat.
>
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:Hs1sc.18949$KO2.12542@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > I told the stealership to check it out... .I sure hope I didn't trash
> > anything. I had no choice but to wait until now to get it fixed. The
> > problem didn't start until I was at OTS, then I had to get home
somehow...
> > really no problem until Thursday. Then I took it in. Any idea how to
> check
> > the valves??
> >
> > By the way, apparently the nearest cat at ANY dealer is in Arizona (I'm
in
> > San Antonio). What the heck is that about? Dealers don't stock them???
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40AFB247.FCD6FC93@***.net...
> > > You know you've probably already cooked your exhaust valves in
your
> > > procrastination.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Eric wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I got 4.5 MPG (nope, not a typo) on Thursday in my 99 TJ! 92 miles
> and
> > it
> > > > was going on E.
> > > >
> > > > Freakin' catalytic converters..
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >
>
>
with that, though:
1. I didn't buy it at this dealership. So what is their incentive to do
"above and beyond?"(although I've purchased two cars from them about 3-5
years ago)
2. It isn't under warranty anymore. The cat is due to the 7 year emissions
warranty, but that's it.
Also, I know there wasn't any damage to the cat from outside hazards. I
looked it over myself. Besides, it's very well protected by the stock skid
plate. Wow, that seems kind of strange to say.. "very well protected by a
stock...". ;-)
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c8qaio01pac@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Not really an unusual situation, aside from being a low volume repalcement
> item (modern cats are very robust and don't fail with any regularity) cats
> are really expensive for a dealer to keep in stock.
>
> What usually causes a cat to fail is outside influence (a rock or other
road
> hazard). Most modern systems go into some form of limp home mode that will
> prevent the cat from loading up with fuel and overheating. Unless it's
clear
> that it failed from being struck from the outside, it would be sensible to
> have a knowledeable tech check this thing out with proper diagnostiocs
eqpt
> before you replace the cat.
>
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:Hs1sc.18949$KO2.12542@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > I told the stealership to check it out... .I sure hope I didn't trash
> > anything. I had no choice but to wait until now to get it fixed. The
> > problem didn't start until I was at OTS, then I had to get home
somehow...
> > really no problem until Thursday. Then I took it in. Any idea how to
> check
> > the valves??
> >
> > By the way, apparently the nearest cat at ANY dealer is in Arizona (I'm
in
> > San Antonio). What the heck is that about? Dealers don't stock them???
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40AFB247.FCD6FC93@***.net...
> > > You know you've probably already cooked your exhaust valves in
your
> > > procrastination.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Eric wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I got 4.5 MPG (nope, not a typo) on Thursday in my 99 TJ! 92 miles
> and
> > it
> > > > was going on E.
> > > >
> > > > Freakin' catalytic converters..
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >
>
>
05-23-2004, 02:51 PM
#53
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Crappy gas mileage
That's what they are SUPPOSED to be doing. There are a couple of problems
with that, though:
1. I didn't buy it at this dealership. So what is their incentive to do
"above and beyond?"(although I've purchased two cars from them about 3-5
years ago)
2. It isn't under warranty anymore. The cat is due to the 7 year emissions
warranty, but that's it.
Also, I know there wasn't any damage to the cat from outside hazards. I
looked it over myself. Besides, it's very well protected by the stock skid
plate. Wow, that seems kind of strange to say.. "very well protected by a
stock...". ;-)
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c8qaio01pac@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Not really an unusual situation, aside from being a low volume repalcement
> item (modern cats are very robust and don't fail with any regularity) cats
> are really expensive for a dealer to keep in stock.
>
> What usually causes a cat to fail is outside influence (a rock or other
road
> hazard). Most modern systems go into some form of limp home mode that will
> prevent the cat from loading up with fuel and overheating. Unless it's
clear
> that it failed from being struck from the outside, it would be sensible to
> have a knowledeable tech check this thing out with proper diagnostiocs
eqpt
> before you replace the cat.
>
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:Hs1sc.18949$KO2.12542@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > I told the stealership to check it out... .I sure hope I didn't trash
> > anything. I had no choice but to wait until now to get it fixed. The
> > problem didn't start until I was at OTS, then I had to get home
somehow...
> > really no problem until Thursday. Then I took it in. Any idea how to
> check
> > the valves??
> >
> > By the way, apparently the nearest cat at ANY dealer is in Arizona (I'm
in
> > San Antonio). What the heck is that about? Dealers don't stock them???
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40AFB247.FCD6FC93@***.net...
> > > You know you've probably already cooked your exhaust valves in
your
> > > procrastination.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Eric wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I got 4.5 MPG (nope, not a typo) on Thursday in my 99 TJ! 92 miles
> and
> > it
> > > > was going on E.
> > > >
> > > > Freakin' catalytic converters..
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >
>
>
with that, though:
1. I didn't buy it at this dealership. So what is their incentive to do
"above and beyond?"(although I've purchased two cars from them about 3-5
years ago)
2. It isn't under warranty anymore. The cat is due to the 7 year emissions
warranty, but that's it.
Also, I know there wasn't any damage to the cat from outside hazards. I
looked it over myself. Besides, it's very well protected by the stock skid
plate. Wow, that seems kind of strange to say.. "very well protected by a
stock...". ;-)
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c8qaio01pac@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Not really an unusual situation, aside from being a low volume repalcement
> item (modern cats are very robust and don't fail with any regularity) cats
> are really expensive for a dealer to keep in stock.
>
> What usually causes a cat to fail is outside influence (a rock or other
road
> hazard). Most modern systems go into some form of limp home mode that will
> prevent the cat from loading up with fuel and overheating. Unless it's
clear
> that it failed from being struck from the outside, it would be sensible to
> have a knowledeable tech check this thing out with proper diagnostiocs
eqpt
> before you replace the cat.
>
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:Hs1sc.18949$KO2.12542@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > I told the stealership to check it out... .I sure hope I didn't trash
> > anything. I had no choice but to wait until now to get it fixed. The
> > problem didn't start until I was at OTS, then I had to get home
somehow...
> > really no problem until Thursday. Then I took it in. Any idea how to
> check
> > the valves??
> >
> > By the way, apparently the nearest cat at ANY dealer is in Arizona (I'm
in
> > San Antonio). What the heck is that about? Dealers don't stock them???
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40AFB247.FCD6FC93@***.net...
> > > You know you've probably already cooked your exhaust valves in
your
> > > procrastination.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Eric wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I got 4.5 MPG (nope, not a typo) on Thursday in my 99 TJ! 92 miles
> and
> > it
> > > > was going on E.
> > > >
> > > > Freakin' catalytic converters..
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >
>
>
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