consensus on new commander?
09-25-2006, 08:35 PM
#21
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Re: consensus on new commander?
The link takes a password, can you e-mail it?
"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Heh ya, exactly. My neighbour just bought one - too much truck for me. For
> anyone who doesn't watch Simpson's or doesn't remember the Canyonero
> episodes (there's two now!), here's the lyrics:
>
> http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/thesi.../canyonero.htm
>
> And for maximum effect, download the wav. Great tune :)
> http://www.clayloomis.com/Sounds/sim.../simsg297m.wav
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:OqZRg.7655$iA5.7648@dukeread11...
>> griffin wrote:
>> >> As for how it drives, dunno. But it left me with the impression I
>> >> needed to be about 7' tall, 300lb, cigar smoking, steroid driven
>> >> governor to feel like I fit in it.
>> >
>> > *plays the Simpson's "Canyonero!" theme song*
>>
>> It felt more like "Mr. Plow", but that's a good choice. :)
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>
>>
>>
>
>
"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:di_Rg.35550$1T2.2341@pd7urf2no...
> Heh ya, exactly. My neighbour just bought one - too much truck for me. For
> anyone who doesn't watch Simpson's or doesn't remember the Canyonero
> episodes (there's two now!), here's the lyrics:
>
> http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/thesi.../canyonero.htm
>
> And for maximum effect, download the wav. Great tune :)
> http://www.clayloomis.com/Sounds/sim.../simsg297m.wav
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:OqZRg.7655$iA5.7648@dukeread11...
>> griffin wrote:
>> >> As for how it drives, dunno. But it left me with the impression I
>> >> needed to be about 7' tall, 300lb, cigar smoking, steroid driven
>> >> governor to feel like I fit in it.
>> >
>> > *plays the Simpson's "Canyonero!" theme song*
>>
>> It felt more like "Mr. Plow", but that's a good choice. :)
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>
>>
>>
>
>
09-25-2006, 08:35 PM
#22
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Re: consensus on new commander?
The link takes a password, can you e-mail it?
"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:di_Rg.35550$1T2.2341@pd7urf2no...
> Heh ya, exactly. My neighbour just bought one - too much truck for me. For
> anyone who doesn't watch Simpson's or doesn't remember the Canyonero
> episodes (there's two now!), here's the lyrics:
>
> http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/thesi.../canyonero.htm
>
> And for maximum effect, download the wav. Great tune :)
> http://www.clayloomis.com/Sounds/sim.../simsg297m.wav
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:OqZRg.7655$iA5.7648@dukeread11...
>> griffin wrote:
>> >> As for how it drives, dunno. But it left me with the impression I
>> >> needed to be about 7' tall, 300lb, cigar smoking, steroid driven
>> >> governor to feel like I fit in it.
>> >
>> > *plays the Simpson's "Canyonero!" theme song*
>>
>> It felt more like "Mr. Plow", but that's a good choice. :)
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>
>>
>>
>
>
"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:di_Rg.35550$1T2.2341@pd7urf2no...
> Heh ya, exactly. My neighbour just bought one - too much truck for me. For
> anyone who doesn't watch Simpson's or doesn't remember the Canyonero
> episodes (there's two now!), here's the lyrics:
>
> http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/thesi.../canyonero.htm
>
> And for maximum effect, download the wav. Great tune :)
> http://www.clayloomis.com/Sounds/sim.../simsg297m.wav
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:OqZRg.7655$iA5.7648@dukeread11...
>> griffin wrote:
>> >> As for how it drives, dunno. But it left me with the impression I
>> >> needed to be about 7' tall, 300lb, cigar smoking, steroid driven
>> >> governor to feel like I fit in it.
>> >
>> > *plays the Simpson's "Canyonero!" theme song*
>>
>> It felt more like "Mr. Plow", but that's a good choice. :)
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>
>>
>>
>
>
09-25-2006, 09:11 PM
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Re: consensus on new commander?
The Studebaker Commander, ahead of it's time:
http://images.google.com/images?svnu...mander&spell=1
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill Kearney wrote:
>
> So what's the consensus on how the commander stacks up? I'm in need of
> replacing my ancient Cherokee and the 0% deals on the commander make it
> worth considering.
>
> Anyone here actually have one?
http://images.google.com/images?svnu...mander&spell=1
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill Kearney wrote:
>
> So what's the consensus on how the commander stacks up? I'm in need of
> replacing my ancient Cherokee and the 0% deals on the commander make it
> worth considering.
>
> Anyone here actually have one?
09-25-2006, 09:11 PM
#24
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Re: consensus on new commander?
The Studebaker Commander, ahead of it's time:
http://images.google.com/images?svnu...mander&spell=1
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill Kearney wrote:
>
> So what's the consensus on how the commander stacks up? I'm in need of
> replacing my ancient Cherokee and the 0% deals on the commander make it
> worth considering.
>
> Anyone here actually have one?
http://images.google.com/images?svnu...mander&spell=1
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill Kearney wrote:
>
> So what's the consensus on how the commander stacks up? I'm in need of
> replacing my ancient Cherokee and the 0% deals on the commander make it
> worth considering.
>
> Anyone here actually have one?
09-25-2006, 09:11 PM
#25
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Re: consensus on new commander?
The Studebaker Commander, ahead of it's time:
http://images.google.com/images?svnu...mander&spell=1
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill Kearney wrote:
>
> So what's the consensus on how the commander stacks up? I'm in need of
> replacing my ancient Cherokee and the 0% deals on the commander make it
> worth considering.
>
> Anyone here actually have one?
http://images.google.com/images?svnu...mander&spell=1
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill Kearney wrote:
>
> So what's the consensus on how the commander stacks up? I'm in need of
> replacing my ancient Cherokee and the 0% deals on the commander make it
> worth considering.
>
> Anyone here actually have one?
09-25-2006, 10:07 PM
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Re: consensus on new commander?
> If you can get the financing on a Grand Cherokee I would go with that.
Why? The ride's apparently quite a bit mushier on the JGC than the
Commander.
> Ultimately it comes down to what you want and what you want to do with it
> once you have it.
I'd have bought another Cherokee in a heartbeat. Plain, simple and durable.
Of course they'd rather squander brand loyalties and shove this latest crap
on us instead.
Why? The ride's apparently quite a bit mushier on the JGC than the
Commander.
> Ultimately it comes down to what you want and what you want to do with it
> once you have it.
I'd have bought another Cherokee in a heartbeat. Plain, simple and durable.
Of course they'd rather squander brand loyalties and shove this latest crap
on us instead.
09-25-2006, 10:07 PM
#27
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Re: consensus on new commander?
> If you can get the financing on a Grand Cherokee I would go with that.
Why? The ride's apparently quite a bit mushier on the JGC than the
Commander.
> Ultimately it comes down to what you want and what you want to do with it
> once you have it.
I'd have bought another Cherokee in a heartbeat. Plain, simple and durable.
Of course they'd rather squander brand loyalties and shove this latest crap
on us instead.
Why? The ride's apparently quite a bit mushier on the JGC than the
Commander.
> Ultimately it comes down to what you want and what you want to do with it
> once you have it.
I'd have bought another Cherokee in a heartbeat. Plain, simple and durable.
Of course they'd rather squander brand loyalties and shove this latest crap
on us instead.
09-25-2006, 10:07 PM
#28
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Posts: n/a
Re: consensus on new commander?
> If you can get the financing on a Grand Cherokee I would go with that.
Why? The ride's apparently quite a bit mushier on the JGC than the
Commander.
> Ultimately it comes down to what you want and what you want to do with it
> once you have it.
I'd have bought another Cherokee in a heartbeat. Plain, simple and durable.
Of course they'd rather squander brand loyalties and shove this latest crap
on us instead.
Why? The ride's apparently quite a bit mushier on the JGC than the
Commander.
> Ultimately it comes down to what you want and what you want to do with it
> once you have it.
I'd have bought another Cherokee in a heartbeat. Plain, simple and durable.
Of course they'd rather squander brand loyalties and shove this latest crap
on us instead.
09-25-2006, 10:08 PM
#29
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Re: consensus on new commander?
> I had the opportunity to drive it to the beach for the weekend. Round trip
> about 450 miles.
Excellent, feedback from someone that's ACTUALLY DRIVEN ONE.
> I'm 6'2 and 325lbs,
I'm 6'4" and about a hundred pounds less.
> it seems roomy enough at first, but down the road a
> ways, the door handle was digging into my left knee, the emergency brake
> handle was digging into my right thigh, and the armrest has an unnatural
> shape to it that makes my forearm hurt when using it on a long trip.
I greatly despise how most vehicles these days insist on having a center
console. I want some room to shift the legs. I'll take note of what you've
had trouble with when I demo one this week.
> Rear room was adequate, but my wifes Explorer is better.
That's the alternative vehicle being considered.
> The windshield seemed short in height, but I got used to that.
> My 8 year old loved the DVD player and the wireless head set, but the
screen
> wouldn't turn to face her, just faced straight back.
I could care less about gadetry like that. I don't want/need it. It no
doubt gets foisted on us because of inclusion in other packages. But I'd
certainly live without it otherwise.
> Engine power is phenomenal. All you need and more, but, you are so
detached
> from your surroundings from the extreme quiet, you don't get a feel for
the
> road or the engine, and it's very easy to speed if you don't pay
attention.
Heh, unlike my old Cherokee. I joke, the only way it'd ever do 80 would be
as it plummeted off an escarpment. Even a friend's Bronco I've driven gets
wiggly anywhere faster than 75.
> First tankful mileage was 13-1/2 highway. Second tank got up to around 17.
Got the 'lead out' of your right foot on seeing the MPG? Or just stopped
kicking down the throttle on the hemi 'for fun'?
> Remember, it's a brand new vehicle not yet broken in.
> The ride is a little bit on the soft side.
> Just my opinions
> I guess I like it overall, but not anymore for long trips.
Thanks!
-Bill Kearney
> about 450 miles.
Excellent, feedback from someone that's ACTUALLY DRIVEN ONE.
> I'm 6'2 and 325lbs,
I'm 6'4" and about a hundred pounds less.
> it seems roomy enough at first, but down the road a
> ways, the door handle was digging into my left knee, the emergency brake
> handle was digging into my right thigh, and the armrest has an unnatural
> shape to it that makes my forearm hurt when using it on a long trip.
I greatly despise how most vehicles these days insist on having a center
console. I want some room to shift the legs. I'll take note of what you've
had trouble with when I demo one this week.
> Rear room was adequate, but my wifes Explorer is better.
That's the alternative vehicle being considered.
> The windshield seemed short in height, but I got used to that.
> My 8 year old loved the DVD player and the wireless head set, but the
screen
> wouldn't turn to face her, just faced straight back.
I could care less about gadetry like that. I don't want/need it. It no
doubt gets foisted on us because of inclusion in other packages. But I'd
certainly live without it otherwise.
> Engine power is phenomenal. All you need and more, but, you are so
detached
> from your surroundings from the extreme quiet, you don't get a feel for
the
> road or the engine, and it's very easy to speed if you don't pay
attention.
Heh, unlike my old Cherokee. I joke, the only way it'd ever do 80 would be
as it plummeted off an escarpment. Even a friend's Bronco I've driven gets
wiggly anywhere faster than 75.
> First tankful mileage was 13-1/2 highway. Second tank got up to around 17.
Got the 'lead out' of your right foot on seeing the MPG? Or just stopped
kicking down the throttle on the hemi 'for fun'?
> Remember, it's a brand new vehicle not yet broken in.
> The ride is a little bit on the soft side.
> Just my opinions
> I guess I like it overall, but not anymore for long trips.
Thanks!
-Bill Kearney
09-25-2006, 10:08 PM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: consensus on new commander?
> I had the opportunity to drive it to the beach for the weekend. Round trip
> about 450 miles.
Excellent, feedback from someone that's ACTUALLY DRIVEN ONE.
> I'm 6'2 and 325lbs,
I'm 6'4" and about a hundred pounds less.
> it seems roomy enough at first, but down the road a
> ways, the door handle was digging into my left knee, the emergency brake
> handle was digging into my right thigh, and the armrest has an unnatural
> shape to it that makes my forearm hurt when using it on a long trip.
I greatly despise how most vehicles these days insist on having a center
console. I want some room to shift the legs. I'll take note of what you've
had trouble with when I demo one this week.
> Rear room was adequate, but my wifes Explorer is better.
That's the alternative vehicle being considered.
> The windshield seemed short in height, but I got used to that.
> My 8 year old loved the DVD player and the wireless head set, but the
screen
> wouldn't turn to face her, just faced straight back.
I could care less about gadetry like that. I don't want/need it. It no
doubt gets foisted on us because of inclusion in other packages. But I'd
certainly live without it otherwise.
> Engine power is phenomenal. All you need and more, but, you are so
detached
> from your surroundings from the extreme quiet, you don't get a feel for
the
> road or the engine, and it's very easy to speed if you don't pay
attention.
Heh, unlike my old Cherokee. I joke, the only way it'd ever do 80 would be
as it plummeted off an escarpment. Even a friend's Bronco I've driven gets
wiggly anywhere faster than 75.
> First tankful mileage was 13-1/2 highway. Second tank got up to around 17.
Got the 'lead out' of your right foot on seeing the MPG? Or just stopped
kicking down the throttle on the hemi 'for fun'?
> Remember, it's a brand new vehicle not yet broken in.
> The ride is a little bit on the soft side.
> Just my opinions
> I guess I like it overall, but not anymore for long trips.
Thanks!
-Bill Kearney
> about 450 miles.
Excellent, feedback from someone that's ACTUALLY DRIVEN ONE.
> I'm 6'2 and 325lbs,
I'm 6'4" and about a hundred pounds less.
> it seems roomy enough at first, but down the road a
> ways, the door handle was digging into my left knee, the emergency brake
> handle was digging into my right thigh, and the armrest has an unnatural
> shape to it that makes my forearm hurt when using it on a long trip.
I greatly despise how most vehicles these days insist on having a center
console. I want some room to shift the legs. I'll take note of what you've
had trouble with when I demo one this week.
> Rear room was adequate, but my wifes Explorer is better.
That's the alternative vehicle being considered.
> The windshield seemed short in height, but I got used to that.
> My 8 year old loved the DVD player and the wireless head set, but the
screen
> wouldn't turn to face her, just faced straight back.
I could care less about gadetry like that. I don't want/need it. It no
doubt gets foisted on us because of inclusion in other packages. But I'd
certainly live without it otherwise.
> Engine power is phenomenal. All you need and more, but, you are so
detached
> from your surroundings from the extreme quiet, you don't get a feel for
the
> road or the engine, and it's very easy to speed if you don't pay
attention.
Heh, unlike my old Cherokee. I joke, the only way it'd ever do 80 would be
as it plummeted off an escarpment. Even a friend's Bronco I've driven gets
wiggly anywhere faster than 75.
> First tankful mileage was 13-1/2 highway. Second tank got up to around 17.
Got the 'lead out' of your right foot on seeing the MPG? Or just stopped
kicking down the throttle on the hemi 'for fun'?
> Remember, it's a brand new vehicle not yet broken in.
> The ride is a little bit on the soft side.
> Just my opinions
> I guess I like it overall, but not anymore for long trips.
Thanks!
-Bill Kearney