confused about lockers & limited slips?
02-23-2004, 05:16 PM
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
>
>My final vote is IF you have manual hubs and IF you don't leave them
>engaged for nomal driving (some people do) there should be no reason
>not to spool the front end. I plan on doing this to my rig (spooled
>front and Detroit Locker on the rear).
>
>-Mike
If you go offroading in any tight areas, or slippery areas, plan on
making a lot of 3, 4, or more point turns with a spool.
IF you had a YJ and Installed a Posilock cable actuator, maybe you
could get away with it, but it would still be hard to steer, you could
be in 3 wheel drive and it would pull.
Even with my Lockrites, I can't make sharp turns in low traction
situations, cause as soon as a tire slips, it's locked.
Tookie - Denham Springs, LA
88YJ,"Money Hungry"
4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
PosiLock, 4.10s
02-23-2004, 05:25 PM
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 12:03:58 -0700, "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com>
wrote:
>:|It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
>:|you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
>:|Nick
not to mention the truck will have a rather healthy appetite for U
joints and axles.
-Bret
wrote:
>:|It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
>:|you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
>:|Nick
not to mention the truck will have a rather healthy appetite for U
joints and axles.
-Bret
02-23-2004, 05:25 PM
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 12:03:58 -0700, "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com>
wrote:
>:|It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
>:|you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
>:|Nick
not to mention the truck will have a rather healthy appetite for U
joints and axles.
-Bret
wrote:
>:|It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
>:|you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
>:|Nick
not to mention the truck will have a rather healthy appetite for U
joints and axles.
-Bret
02-23-2004, 05:25 PM
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 12:03:58 -0700, "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com>
wrote:
>:|It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
>:|you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
>:|Nick
not to mention the truck will have a rather healthy appetite for U
joints and axles.
-Bret
wrote:
>:|It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
>:|you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
>:|Nick
not to mention the truck will have a rather healthy appetite for U
joints and axles.
-Bret
02-23-2004, 06:53 PM
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message news:<V8s_b.1978$qL1.1204@fed1read02>...
> It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
> you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> Nick
I've driven my friends truck (92 Toy) with ARB air lockers front
and rear. When the air locker is engaged it is like having spooled
diffs and its not tough to drive. The only problem I could forsee
is on a hard area (large flat rock, etc) or if the power steering
goes out. In either case unlock a hub and you're fine. Also, many
of the mechanical lockers (Detroit comes to mind) lock when under
power and only free spin when coasting; one of those in the front
while under power would have the same effect.
I just realized this is cross posted to the ****** group...no
powersteering on those, right? I can see where spooled diffs might
be a prob there... in that case I would probably spring for an
ARB airlocker up front and a Detroit locker in the rear...
-Mike
> It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
> you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> Nick
I've driven my friends truck (92 Toy) with ARB air lockers front
and rear. When the air locker is engaged it is like having spooled
diffs and its not tough to drive. The only problem I could forsee
is on a hard area (large flat rock, etc) or if the power steering
goes out. In either case unlock a hub and you're fine. Also, many
of the mechanical lockers (Detroit comes to mind) lock when under
power and only free spin when coasting; one of those in the front
while under power would have the same effect.
I just realized this is cross posted to the ****** group...no
powersteering on those, right? I can see where spooled diffs might
be a prob there... in that case I would probably spring for an
ARB airlocker up front and a Detroit locker in the rear...
-Mike
02-23-2004, 06:53 PM
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message news:<V8s_b.1978$qL1.1204@fed1read02>...
> It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
> you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> Nick
I've driven my friends truck (92 Toy) with ARB air lockers front
and rear. When the air locker is engaged it is like having spooled
diffs and its not tough to drive. The only problem I could forsee
is on a hard area (large flat rock, etc) or if the power steering
goes out. In either case unlock a hub and you're fine. Also, many
of the mechanical lockers (Detroit comes to mind) lock when under
power and only free spin when coasting; one of those in the front
while under power would have the same effect.
I just realized this is cross posted to the ****** group...no
powersteering on those, right? I can see where spooled diffs might
be a prob there... in that case I would probably spring for an
ARB airlocker up front and a Detroit locker in the rear...
-Mike
> It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
> you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> Nick
I've driven my friends truck (92 Toy) with ARB air lockers front
and rear. When the air locker is engaged it is like having spooled
diffs and its not tough to drive. The only problem I could forsee
is on a hard area (large flat rock, etc) or if the power steering
goes out. In either case unlock a hub and you're fine. Also, many
of the mechanical lockers (Detroit comes to mind) lock when under
power and only free spin when coasting; one of those in the front
while under power would have the same effect.
I just realized this is cross posted to the ****** group...no
powersteering on those, right? I can see where spooled diffs might
be a prob there... in that case I would probably spring for an
ARB airlocker up front and a Detroit locker in the rear...
-Mike
02-23-2004, 06:53 PM
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message news:<V8s_b.1978$qL1.1204@fed1read02>...
> It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
> you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> Nick
I've driven my friends truck (92 Toy) with ARB air lockers front
and rear. When the air locker is engaged it is like having spooled
diffs and its not tough to drive. The only problem I could forsee
is on a hard area (large flat rock, etc) or if the power steering
goes out. In either case unlock a hub and you're fine. Also, many
of the mechanical lockers (Detroit comes to mind) lock when under
power and only free spin when coasting; one of those in the front
while under power would have the same effect.
I just realized this is cross posted to the ****** group...no
powersteering on those, right? I can see where spooled diffs might
be a prob there... in that case I would probably spring for an
ARB airlocker up front and a Detroit locker in the rear...
-Mike
> It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
> you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> Nick
I've driven my friends truck (92 Toy) with ARB air lockers front
and rear. When the air locker is engaged it is like having spooled
diffs and its not tough to drive. The only problem I could forsee
is on a hard area (large flat rock, etc) or if the power steering
goes out. In either case unlock a hub and you're fine. Also, many
of the mechanical lockers (Detroit comes to mind) lock when under
power and only free spin when coasting; one of those in the front
while under power would have the same effect.
I just realized this is cross posted to the ****** group...no
powersteering on those, right? I can see where spooled diffs might
be a prob there... in that case I would probably spring for an
ARB airlocker up front and a Detroit locker in the rear...
-Mike
02-23-2004, 07:27 PM
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
I have an Ox in the front with manual steering. Once the front gets
traction, it can be pretty darn hard to steer. If I had hubs, I don't see
getting out of my 40 times a run to lock/unlock the hubs. I'd strongly
suggest going for an Ox/Arb in the front or a limited slip.
Nick
"think4yourself" <think4yourself2k2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:<V8s_b.1978$qL1.1204@fed1read02>...
> > It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if
offroading
> > you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> > Nick
>
> I've driven my friends truck (92 Toy) with ARB air lockers front
> and rear. When the air locker is engaged it is like having spooled
> diffs and its not tough to drive. The only problem I could forsee
> is on a hard area (large flat rock, etc) or if the power steering
> goes out. In either case unlock a hub and you're fine. Also, many
> of the mechanical lockers (Detroit comes to mind) lock when under
> power and only free spin when coasting; one of those in the front
> while under power would have the same effect.
>
> I just realized this is cross posted to the ****** group...no
> powersteering on those, right? I can see where spooled diffs might
> be a prob there... in that case I would probably spring for an
> ARB airlocker up front and a Detroit locker in the rear...
>
> -Mike
traction, it can be pretty darn hard to steer. If I had hubs, I don't see
getting out of my 40 times a run to lock/unlock the hubs. I'd strongly
suggest going for an Ox/Arb in the front or a limited slip.
Nick
"think4yourself" <think4yourself2k2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:422abc4b.0402231553.5af4c1ce@posting.google.c om...
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:<V8s_b.1978$qL1.1204@fed1read02>...
> > It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if
offroading
> > you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> > Nick
>
> I've driven my friends truck (92 Toy) with ARB air lockers front
> and rear. When the air locker is engaged it is like having spooled
> diffs and its not tough to drive. The only problem I could forsee
> is on a hard area (large flat rock, etc) or if the power steering
> goes out. In either case unlock a hub and you're fine. Also, many
> of the mechanical lockers (Detroit comes to mind) lock when under
> power and only free spin when coasting; one of those in the front
> while under power would have the same effect.
>
> I just realized this is cross posted to the ****** group...no
> powersteering on those, right? I can see where spooled diffs might
> be a prob there... in that case I would probably spring for an
> ARB airlocker up front and a Detroit locker in the rear...
>
> -Mike
02-23-2004, 07:27 PM
#39
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
I have an Ox in the front with manual steering. Once the front gets
traction, it can be pretty darn hard to steer. If I had hubs, I don't see
getting out of my 40 times a run to lock/unlock the hubs. I'd strongly
suggest going for an Ox/Arb in the front or a limited slip.
Nick
"think4yourself" <think4yourself2k2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:422abc4b.0402231553.5af4c1ce@posting.google.c om...
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:<V8s_b.1978$qL1.1204@fed1read02>...
> > It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if
offroading
> > you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> > Nick
>
> I've driven my friends truck (92 Toy) with ARB air lockers front
> and rear. When the air locker is engaged it is like having spooled
> diffs and its not tough to drive. The only problem I could forsee
> is on a hard area (large flat rock, etc) or if the power steering
> goes out. In either case unlock a hub and you're fine. Also, many
> of the mechanical lockers (Detroit comes to mind) lock when under
> power and only free spin when coasting; one of those in the front
> while under power would have the same effect.
>
> I just realized this is cross posted to the ****** group...no
> powersteering on those, right? I can see where spooled diffs might
> be a prob there... in that case I would probably spring for an
> ARB airlocker up front and a Detroit locker in the rear...
>
> -Mike
traction, it can be pretty darn hard to steer. If I had hubs, I don't see
getting out of my 40 times a run to lock/unlock the hubs. I'd strongly
suggest going for an Ox/Arb in the front or a limited slip.
Nick
"think4yourself" <think4yourself2k2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:422abc4b.0402231553.5af4c1ce@posting.google.c om...
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:<V8s_b.1978$qL1.1204@fed1read02>...
> > It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if
offroading
> > you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> > Nick
>
> I've driven my friends truck (92 Toy) with ARB air lockers front
> and rear. When the air locker is engaged it is like having spooled
> diffs and its not tough to drive. The only problem I could forsee
> is on a hard area (large flat rock, etc) or if the power steering
> goes out. In either case unlock a hub and you're fine. Also, many
> of the mechanical lockers (Detroit comes to mind) lock when under
> power and only free spin when coasting; one of those in the front
> while under power would have the same effect.
>
> I just realized this is cross posted to the ****** group...no
> powersteering on those, right? I can see where spooled diffs might
> be a prob there... in that case I would probably spring for an
> ARB airlocker up front and a Detroit locker in the rear...
>
> -Mike
02-23-2004, 07:27 PM
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
I have an Ox in the front with manual steering. Once the front gets
traction, it can be pretty darn hard to steer. If I had hubs, I don't see
getting out of my 40 times a run to lock/unlock the hubs. I'd strongly
suggest going for an Ox/Arb in the front or a limited slip.
Nick
"think4yourself" <think4yourself2k2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:422abc4b.0402231553.5af4c1ce@posting.google.c om...
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:<V8s_b.1978$qL1.1204@fed1read02>...
> > It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if
offroading
> > you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> > Nick
>
> I've driven my friends truck (92 Toy) with ARB air lockers front
> and rear. When the air locker is engaged it is like having spooled
> diffs and its not tough to drive. The only problem I could forsee
> is on a hard area (large flat rock, etc) or if the power steering
> goes out. In either case unlock a hub and you're fine. Also, many
> of the mechanical lockers (Detroit comes to mind) lock when under
> power and only free spin when coasting; one of those in the front
> while under power would have the same effect.
>
> I just realized this is cross posted to the ****** group...no
> powersteering on those, right? I can see where spooled diffs might
> be a prob there... in that case I would probably spring for an
> ARB airlocker up front and a Detroit locker in the rear...
>
> -Mike
traction, it can be pretty darn hard to steer. If I had hubs, I don't see
getting out of my 40 times a run to lock/unlock the hubs. I'd strongly
suggest going for an Ox/Arb in the front or a limited slip.
Nick
"think4yourself" <think4yourself2k2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:422abc4b.0402231553.5af4c1ce@posting.google.c om...
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:<V8s_b.1978$qL1.1204@fed1read02>...
> > It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if
offroading
> > you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> > Nick
>
> I've driven my friends truck (92 Toy) with ARB air lockers front
> and rear. When the air locker is engaged it is like having spooled
> diffs and its not tough to drive. The only problem I could forsee
> is on a hard area (large flat rock, etc) or if the power steering
> goes out. In either case unlock a hub and you're fine. Also, many
> of the mechanical lockers (Detroit comes to mind) lock when under
> power and only free spin when coasting; one of those in the front
> while under power would have the same effect.
>
> I just realized this is cross posted to the ****** group...no
> powersteering on those, right? I can see where spooled diffs might
> be a prob there... in that case I would probably spring for an
> ARB airlocker up front and a Detroit locker in the rear...
>
> -Mike