confused about lockers & limited slips?
02-23-2004, 01:38 PM
#21
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
Hi James,
I would kind of disagree with what is being said. As long as you have
manual hubs there is no reason not to spool the frontend. When you
unlock your hub, you disengage the wheel fron the front driveshaft;
in essence you are now a standard 2wd vehicle with freespinning front
wheels. This means that in turns you will experience no wheel "skip"
because your wheels are not physically attached to the spooled drive
shafts. However, if your hubs are locked (or if your autohubs engage)
then you have problems. A spooled diff acts like a single driveshaft
running from wheel to wheel. If your hubs are engaged, regardless of
if you are in 4wd, the two front wheels are now locked together and
will NOT turn at different speeds which is required for turns on
pavement. Remember, puting the vehicle in 4wd is sending power to
the diff and the hubs decide if the power reaches the wheel.
My final vote is IF you have manual hubs and IF you don't leave them
engaged for nomal driving (some people do) there should be no reason
not to spool the front end. I plan on doing this to my rig (spooled
front and Detroit Locker on the rear).
-Mike
I would kind of disagree with what is being said. As long as you have
manual hubs there is no reason not to spool the frontend. When you
unlock your hub, you disengage the wheel fron the front driveshaft;
in essence you are now a standard 2wd vehicle with freespinning front
wheels. This means that in turns you will experience no wheel "skip"
because your wheels are not physically attached to the spooled drive
shafts. However, if your hubs are locked (or if your autohubs engage)
then you have problems. A spooled diff acts like a single driveshaft
running from wheel to wheel. If your hubs are engaged, regardless of
if you are in 4wd, the two front wheels are now locked together and
will NOT turn at different speeds which is required for turns on
pavement. Remember, puting the vehicle in 4wd is sending power to
the diff and the hubs decide if the power reaches the wheel.
My final vote is IF you have manual hubs and IF you don't leave them
engaged for nomal driving (some people do) there should be no reason
not to spool the front end. I plan on doing this to my rig (spooled
front and Detroit Locker on the rear).
-Mike
02-23-2004, 01:38 PM
#22
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
Hi James,
I would kind of disagree with what is being said. As long as you have
manual hubs there is no reason not to spool the frontend. When you
unlock your hub, you disengage the wheel fron the front driveshaft;
in essence you are now a standard 2wd vehicle with freespinning front
wheels. This means that in turns you will experience no wheel "skip"
because your wheels are not physically attached to the spooled drive
shafts. However, if your hubs are locked (or if your autohubs engage)
then you have problems. A spooled diff acts like a single driveshaft
running from wheel to wheel. If your hubs are engaged, regardless of
if you are in 4wd, the two front wheels are now locked together and
will NOT turn at different speeds which is required for turns on
pavement. Remember, puting the vehicle in 4wd is sending power to
the diff and the hubs decide if the power reaches the wheel.
My final vote is IF you have manual hubs and IF you don't leave them
engaged for nomal driving (some people do) there should be no reason
not to spool the front end. I plan on doing this to my rig (spooled
front and Detroit Locker on the rear).
-Mike
I would kind of disagree with what is being said. As long as you have
manual hubs there is no reason not to spool the frontend. When you
unlock your hub, you disengage the wheel fron the front driveshaft;
in essence you are now a standard 2wd vehicle with freespinning front
wheels. This means that in turns you will experience no wheel "skip"
because your wheels are not physically attached to the spooled drive
shafts. However, if your hubs are locked (or if your autohubs engage)
then you have problems. A spooled diff acts like a single driveshaft
running from wheel to wheel. If your hubs are engaged, regardless of
if you are in 4wd, the two front wheels are now locked together and
will NOT turn at different speeds which is required for turns on
pavement. Remember, puting the vehicle in 4wd is sending power to
the diff and the hubs decide if the power reaches the wheel.
My final vote is IF you have manual hubs and IF you don't leave them
engaged for nomal driving (some people do) there should be no reason
not to spool the front end. I plan on doing this to my rig (spooled
front and Detroit Locker on the rear).
-Mike
02-23-2004, 02:03 PM
#23
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
Nick
"think4yourself" <think4yourself2k2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:422abc4b.0402231038.3568b350@posting.google.c om...
> Hi James,
>
> I would kind of disagree with what is being said. As long as you have
> manual hubs there is no reason not to spool the frontend. When you
> unlock your hub, you disengage the wheel fron the front driveshaft;
> in essence you are now a standard 2wd vehicle with freespinning front
> wheels. This means that in turns you will experience no wheel "skip"
> because your wheels are not physically attached to the spooled drive
> shafts. However, if your hubs are locked (or if your autohubs engage)
> then you have problems. A spooled diff acts like a single driveshaft
> running from wheel to wheel. If your hubs are engaged, regardless of
> if you are in 4wd, the two front wheels are now locked together and
> will NOT turn at different speeds which is required for turns on
> pavement. Remember, puting the vehicle in 4wd is sending power to
> the diff and the hubs decide if the power reaches the wheel.
>
> My final vote is IF you have manual hubs and IF you don't leave them
> engaged for nomal driving (some people do) there should be no reason
> not to spool the front end. I plan on doing this to my rig (spooled
> front and Detroit Locker on the rear).
>
> -Mike
you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
Nick
"think4yourself" <think4yourself2k2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:422abc4b.0402231038.3568b350@posting.google.c om...
> Hi James,
>
> I would kind of disagree with what is being said. As long as you have
> manual hubs there is no reason not to spool the frontend. When you
> unlock your hub, you disengage the wheel fron the front driveshaft;
> in essence you are now a standard 2wd vehicle with freespinning front
> wheels. This means that in turns you will experience no wheel "skip"
> because your wheels are not physically attached to the spooled drive
> shafts. However, if your hubs are locked (or if your autohubs engage)
> then you have problems. A spooled diff acts like a single driveshaft
> running from wheel to wheel. If your hubs are engaged, regardless of
> if you are in 4wd, the two front wheels are now locked together and
> will NOT turn at different speeds which is required for turns on
> pavement. Remember, puting the vehicle in 4wd is sending power to
> the diff and the hubs decide if the power reaches the wheel.
>
> My final vote is IF you have manual hubs and IF you don't leave them
> engaged for nomal driving (some people do) there should be no reason
> not to spool the front end. I plan on doing this to my rig (spooled
> front and Detroit Locker on the rear).
>
> -Mike
02-23-2004, 02:03 PM
#24
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
Nick
"think4yourself" <think4yourself2k2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:422abc4b.0402231038.3568b350@posting.google.c om...
> Hi James,
>
> I would kind of disagree with what is being said. As long as you have
> manual hubs there is no reason not to spool the frontend. When you
> unlock your hub, you disengage the wheel fron the front driveshaft;
> in essence you are now a standard 2wd vehicle with freespinning front
> wheels. This means that in turns you will experience no wheel "skip"
> because your wheels are not physically attached to the spooled drive
> shafts. However, if your hubs are locked (or if your autohubs engage)
> then you have problems. A spooled diff acts like a single driveshaft
> running from wheel to wheel. If your hubs are engaged, regardless of
> if you are in 4wd, the two front wheels are now locked together and
> will NOT turn at different speeds which is required for turns on
> pavement. Remember, puting the vehicle in 4wd is sending power to
> the diff and the hubs decide if the power reaches the wheel.
>
> My final vote is IF you have manual hubs and IF you don't leave them
> engaged for nomal driving (some people do) there should be no reason
> not to spool the front end. I plan on doing this to my rig (spooled
> front and Detroit Locker on the rear).
>
> -Mike
you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
Nick
"think4yourself" <think4yourself2k2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:422abc4b.0402231038.3568b350@posting.google.c om...
> Hi James,
>
> I would kind of disagree with what is being said. As long as you have
> manual hubs there is no reason not to spool the frontend. When you
> unlock your hub, you disengage the wheel fron the front driveshaft;
> in essence you are now a standard 2wd vehicle with freespinning front
> wheels. This means that in turns you will experience no wheel "skip"
> because your wheels are not physically attached to the spooled drive
> shafts. However, if your hubs are locked (or if your autohubs engage)
> then you have problems. A spooled diff acts like a single driveshaft
> running from wheel to wheel. If your hubs are engaged, regardless of
> if you are in 4wd, the two front wheels are now locked together and
> will NOT turn at different speeds which is required for turns on
> pavement. Remember, puting the vehicle in 4wd is sending power to
> the diff and the hubs decide if the power reaches the wheel.
>
> My final vote is IF you have manual hubs and IF you don't leave them
> engaged for nomal driving (some people do) there should be no reason
> not to spool the front end. I plan on doing this to my rig (spooled
> front and Detroit Locker on the rear).
>
> -Mike
02-23-2004, 02:03 PM
#25
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
Nick
"think4yourself" <think4yourself2k2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:422abc4b.0402231038.3568b350@posting.google.c om...
> Hi James,
>
> I would kind of disagree with what is being said. As long as you have
> manual hubs there is no reason not to spool the frontend. When you
> unlock your hub, you disengage the wheel fron the front driveshaft;
> in essence you are now a standard 2wd vehicle with freespinning front
> wheels. This means that in turns you will experience no wheel "skip"
> because your wheels are not physically attached to the spooled drive
> shafts. However, if your hubs are locked (or if your autohubs engage)
> then you have problems. A spooled diff acts like a single driveshaft
> running from wheel to wheel. If your hubs are engaged, regardless of
> if you are in 4wd, the two front wheels are now locked together and
> will NOT turn at different speeds which is required for turns on
> pavement. Remember, puting the vehicle in 4wd is sending power to
> the diff and the hubs decide if the power reaches the wheel.
>
> My final vote is IF you have manual hubs and IF you don't leave them
> engaged for nomal driving (some people do) there should be no reason
> not to spool the front end. I plan on doing this to my rig (spooled
> front and Detroit Locker on the rear).
>
> -Mike
you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
Nick
"think4yourself" <think4yourself2k2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:422abc4b.0402231038.3568b350@posting.google.c om...
> Hi James,
>
> I would kind of disagree with what is being said. As long as you have
> manual hubs there is no reason not to spool the frontend. When you
> unlock your hub, you disengage the wheel fron the front driveshaft;
> in essence you are now a standard 2wd vehicle with freespinning front
> wheels. This means that in turns you will experience no wheel "skip"
> because your wheels are not physically attached to the spooled drive
> shafts. However, if your hubs are locked (or if your autohubs engage)
> then you have problems. A spooled diff acts like a single driveshaft
> running from wheel to wheel. If your hubs are engaged, regardless of
> if you are in 4wd, the two front wheels are now locked together and
> will NOT turn at different speeds which is required for turns on
> pavement. Remember, puting the vehicle in 4wd is sending power to
> the diff and the hubs decide if the power reaches the wheel.
>
> My final vote is IF you have manual hubs and IF you don't leave them
> engaged for nomal driving (some people do) there should be no reason
> not to spool the front end. I plan on doing this to my rig (spooled
> front and Detroit Locker on the rear).
>
> -Mike
02-23-2004, 02:54 PM
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
Ditto, I run spools, and almost never lock both hubs in low
traction areas. Plus, it is almost impossible to back up in four wheel
drive as the steering wheel will want to go lock to lock at at least
fifty or more pounds, using ten inch, three inch back space rims.
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Nick N wrote:
>
> It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
> you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> Nick
traction areas. Plus, it is almost impossible to back up in four wheel
drive as the steering wheel will want to go lock to lock at at least
fifty or more pounds, using ten inch, three inch back space rims.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Nick N wrote:
>
> It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
> you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> Nick
02-23-2004, 02:54 PM
#27
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
Ditto, I run spools, and almost never lock both hubs in low
traction areas. Plus, it is almost impossible to back up in four wheel
drive as the steering wheel will want to go lock to lock at at least
fifty or more pounds, using ten inch, three inch back space rims.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Nick N wrote:
>
> It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
> you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> Nick
traction areas. Plus, it is almost impossible to back up in four wheel
drive as the steering wheel will want to go lock to lock at at least
fifty or more pounds, using ten inch, three inch back space rims.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Nick N wrote:
>
> It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
> you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> Nick
02-23-2004, 02:54 PM
#28
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
Ditto, I run spools, and almost never lock both hubs in low
traction areas. Plus, it is almost impossible to back up in four wheel
drive as the steering wheel will want to go lock to lock at at least
fifty or more pounds, using ten inch, three inch back space rims.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Nick N wrote:
>
> It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
> you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> Nick
traction areas. Plus, it is almost impossible to back up in four wheel
drive as the steering wheel will want to go lock to lock at at least
fifty or more pounds, using ten inch, three inch back space rims.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Nick N wrote:
>
> It's very difficult to steer when your front is locked. Even if offroading
> you would have to unlock/lock your hubs constantly.
> Nick
02-23-2004, 05:16 PM
#29
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
>
>My final vote is IF you have manual hubs and IF you don't leave them
>engaged for nomal driving (some people do) there should be no reason
>not to spool the front end. I plan on doing this to my rig (spooled
>front and Detroit Locker on the rear).
>
>-Mike
If you go offroading in any tight areas, or slippery areas, plan on
making a lot of 3, 4, or more point turns with a spool.
IF you had a YJ and Installed a Posilock cable actuator, maybe you
could get away with it, but it would still be hard to steer, you could
be in 3 wheel drive and it would pull.
Even with my Lockrites, I can't make sharp turns in low traction
situations, cause as soon as a tire slips, it's locked.
Tookie - Denham Springs, LA
88YJ,"Money Hungry"
4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
PosiLock, 4.10s
02-23-2004, 05:16 PM
#30
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Re: confused about lockers & limited slips?
>
>My final vote is IF you have manual hubs and IF you don't leave them
>engaged for nomal driving (some people do) there should be no reason
>not to spool the front end. I plan on doing this to my rig (spooled
>front and Detroit Locker on the rear).
>
>-Mike
If you go offroading in any tight areas, or slippery areas, plan on
making a lot of 3, 4, or more point turns with a spool.
IF you had a YJ and Installed a Posilock cable actuator, maybe you
could get away with it, but it would still be hard to steer, you could
be in 3 wheel drive and it would pull.
Even with my Lockrites, I can't make sharp turns in low traction
situations, cause as soon as a tire slips, it's locked.
Tookie - Denham Springs, LA
88YJ,"Money Hungry"
4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
PosiLock, 4.10s