JimG

It's remotely possible that it could damage the input shaft on the
transmission. But it would have to fail drastically and then be driven for
many miles before that happens. I think you would have other symptoms
before such a failure though (smell/smoke, no clutch, ect..). If the noise
is considerable and you feel uncomfortable, get it fixed (or better yet do
it yourself). How many miles are on the TJ?

JimG

"Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
news:kdYib.2198$WD1.657@news2.central.***.net...
> This IS my daily driver. It actually started in Mississippi and I've
since
> driven it back to Nebraska. I don't drive it that often around here as I
> try to use my motorcycle while I can. What could go wrong if I don't get
it
> fixed right away? Are we talking about tranny/engine damage??
>
> Thanks.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> news:FoTib.4177$Kg6.2969@news01.roc.ny...
> > You can let it go to a point... the sound you here is a dry throw-out
> > bearing that will eventually wear out. Mine has been doing the same for
> the
> > last 1000 miles or so, but this is not my daily driver. You might be
able
> > to extend it's life by getting some lubrication to it. I am not
familiar
> > with the TJ but on the CJ there is a boot at the clutch linkage that one
> > could spray some WD40 or the like into and hit the bearing. And when
you
> do
> > have to change it, plan on a complete clutch job... clutch, pressure
> plate,
> > throw-out, and pilot bearing.
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:MgJib.1017$WD1.174@news2.central.***.net...
> > > That's what happens. If I press in the clutch pedal it goes away.
Ok,
> my
> > > next question, can I let this go until one day my clutch doesn't work
or
> > do
> > > I need to get it fixed to prevent more costly repairs?
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > news:IdBib.3634$k_6.1156@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > Sounds like the throw-out bearing. Trail riding dusty roads or mud
> > holes
> > > > causes more noise. That dust (or mud) will creep up into the bell
> > housing
> > > > and get in the throw-out bearing. While in neutral try pushing the
> > clutch
> > > > pedal just a little... puts a bit of pressure on the throw-out
> bearing.
> > > If
> > > > the noise stops, that's it.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:uxzib.385$WD1.374@news2.central.***.net...
> > > > > My TJ (99 TJ SE) has developed a new noise, but is only
> intermittent.
> > I
> > > > > mentioned this in a thread a while back, but it has dissapeared
and
> > > though
> > > > I
> > > > > would get some follow-up. It's a distinct, bordering on loud,
> rattle
> > > when
> > > > > the TJ is idling in nuetral, with my foot off the clutch. If I
push
> > the
> > > > > clutch in, it goes away.
> > > > >
> > > > > How often does it happen?? Usually only when it is hot. However,
> it
> > > > > doesn't happen all the time when it is hot. As a matter of fact,
it
> > > > hasn't
> > > > > happened in a while until I did some trail riding yesterday. At
the
> > end
> > > > of
> > > > > the ride I got out while it was running to reconnect my swaybar,
and
> > the
> > > > > rattle was there. Also, sometimes when it gets hot, the clutch...
> > > > grabs...
> > > > > a bit as I bring my foot up. Also makes a creaking noise at the
> same
> > > > time.
> > > > > That has been happening for a long time, and I've learned to
ignore
> > it.
> > > > > Thought that may have something to do with the rattle though.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the help!
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > > > 2" Spacer Lift, TB Swap, AirAid Intake, and lots of other
> money-eating
> > > > > devices... ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Eric

I just rolled over 38k. The problem is fairly intermittent. I've been
thinking about it all day, and it occurs to me that the problem seems to
only pop up when the clutch has been getting a lot of use. I.e. on a trail
or running errands in town. The first time it popped up was after I had my
A/C installed (ahhh...), thought it was the compressor. I kept my eye on it
pretty close. It came and went. It COULD be that the noise happens when
there is a lot of idling in nuetral. You know, sitting at lights (I take it
out of gear..), or sitting on the trail chatting or connecting/disconnecting
swaybars... Hmmm..

Eric
99 TJ SE
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:IJ_ib.4405$qO7.3484@news01.roc.ny...
> It's remotely possible that it could damage the input shaft on the
> transmission. But it would have to fail drastically and then be driven
for
> many miles before that happens. I think you would have other symptoms
> before such a failure though (smell/smoke, no clutch, ect..). If the
noise
> is considerable and you feel uncomfortable, get it fixed (or better yet do
> it yourself). How many miles are on the TJ?
>
> JimG
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> news:kdYib.2198$WD1.657@news2.central.***.net...
> > This IS my daily driver. It actually started in Mississippi and I've
> since
> > driven it back to Nebraska. I don't drive it that often around here as
I
> > try to use my motorcycle while I can. What could go wrong if I don't
get
> it
> > fixed right away? Are we talking about tranny/engine damage??
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > news:FoTib.4177$Kg6.2969@news01.roc.ny...
> > > You can let it go to a point... the sound you here is a dry throw-out
> > > bearing that will eventually wear out. Mine has been doing the same
for
> > the
> > > last 1000 miles or so, but this is not my daily driver. You might be
> able
> > > to extend it's life by getting some lubrication to it. I am not
> familiar
> > > with the TJ but on the CJ there is a boot at the clutch linkage that
one
> > > could spray some WD40 or the like into and hit the bearing. And when
> you
> > do
> > > have to change it, plan on a complete clutch job... clutch, pressure
> > plate,
> > > throw-out, and pilot bearing.
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:MgJib.1017$WD1.174@news2.central.***.net...
> > > > That's what happens. If I press in the clutch pedal it goes away.
> Ok,
> > my
> > > > next question, can I let this go until one day my clutch doesn't
work
> or
> > > do
> > > > I need to get it fixed to prevent more costly repairs?
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:IdBib.3634$k_6.1156@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > Sounds like the throw-out bearing. Trail riding dusty roads or
mud
> > > holes
> > > > > causes more noise. That dust (or mud) will creep up into the bell
> > > housing
> > > > > and get in the throw-out bearing. While in neutral try pushing
the
> > > clutch
> > > > > pedal just a little... puts a bit of pressure on the throw-out
> > bearing.
> > > > If
> > > > > the noise stops, that's it.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > JimG
> > > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > > LockRight F&R
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:uxzib.385$WD1.374@news2.central.***.net...
> > > > > > My TJ (99 TJ SE) has developed a new noise, but is only
> > intermittent.
> > > I
> > > > > > mentioned this in a thread a while back, but it has dissapeared
> and
> > > > though
> > > > > I
> > > > > > would get some follow-up. It's a distinct, bordering on loud,
> > rattle
> > > > when
> > > > > > the TJ is idling in nuetral, with my foot off the clutch. If I
> push
> > > the
> > > > > > clutch in, it goes away.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How often does it happen?? Usually only when it is hot.
However,
> > it
> > > > > > doesn't happen all the time when it is hot. As a matter of
fact,
> it
> > > > > hasn't
> > > > > > happened in a while until I did some trail riding yesterday. At
> the
> > > end
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the ride I got out while it was running to reconnect my swaybar,
> and
> > > the
> > > > > > rattle was there. Also, sometimes when it gets hot, the
clutch...
> > > > > grabs...
> > > > > > a bit as I bring my foot up. Also makes a creaking noise at the
> > same
> > > > > time.
> > > > > > That has been happening for a long time, and I've learned to
> ignore
> > > it.
> > > > > > Thought that may have something to do with the rattle though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the help!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > > > > 2" Spacer Lift, TB Swap, AirAid Intake, and lots of other
> > money-eating
> > > > > > devices... ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Eric

I just rolled over 38k. The problem is fairly intermittent. I've been
thinking about it all day, and it occurs to me that the problem seems to
only pop up when the clutch has been getting a lot of use. I.e. on a trail
or running errands in town. The first time it popped up was after I had my
A/C installed (ahhh...), thought it was the compressor. I kept my eye on it
pretty close. It came and went. It COULD be that the noise happens when
there is a lot of idling in nuetral. You know, sitting at lights (I take it
out of gear..), or sitting on the trail chatting or connecting/disconnecting
swaybars... Hmmm..

Eric
99 TJ SE
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:IJ_ib.4405$qO7.3484@news01.roc.ny...
> It's remotely possible that it could damage the input shaft on the
> transmission. But it would have to fail drastically and then be driven
for
> many miles before that happens. I think you would have other symptoms
> before such a failure though (smell/smoke, no clutch, ect..). If the
noise
> is considerable and you feel uncomfortable, get it fixed (or better yet do
> it yourself). How many miles are on the TJ?
>
> JimG
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> news:kdYib.2198$WD1.657@news2.central.***.net...
> > This IS my daily driver. It actually started in Mississippi and I've
> since
> > driven it back to Nebraska. I don't drive it that often around here as
I
> > try to use my motorcycle while I can. What could go wrong if I don't
get
> it
> > fixed right away? Are we talking about tranny/engine damage??
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > news:FoTib.4177$Kg6.2969@news01.roc.ny...
> > > You can let it go to a point... the sound you here is a dry throw-out
> > > bearing that will eventually wear out. Mine has been doing the same
for
> > the
> > > last 1000 miles or so, but this is not my daily driver. You might be
> able
> > > to extend it's life by getting some lubrication to it. I am not
> familiar
> > > with the TJ but on the CJ there is a boot at the clutch linkage that
one
> > > could spray some WD40 or the like into and hit the bearing. And when
> you
> > do
> > > have to change it, plan on a complete clutch job... clutch, pressure
> > plate,
> > > throw-out, and pilot bearing.
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:MgJib.1017$WD1.174@news2.central.***.net...
> > > > That's what happens. If I press in the clutch pedal it goes away.
> Ok,
> > my
> > > > next question, can I let this go until one day my clutch doesn't
work
> or
> > > do
> > > > I need to get it fixed to prevent more costly repairs?
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:IdBib.3634$k_6.1156@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > Sounds like the throw-out bearing. Trail riding dusty roads or
mud
> > > holes
> > > > > causes more noise. That dust (or mud) will creep up into the bell
> > > housing
> > > > > and get in the throw-out bearing. While in neutral try pushing
the
> > > clutch
> > > > > pedal just a little... puts a bit of pressure on the throw-out
> > bearing.
> > > > If
> > > > > the noise stops, that's it.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > JimG
> > > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > > LockRight F&R
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:uxzib.385$WD1.374@news2.central.***.net...
> > > > > > My TJ (99 TJ SE) has developed a new noise, but is only
> > intermittent.
> > > I
> > > > > > mentioned this in a thread a while back, but it has dissapeared
> and
> > > > though
> > > > > I
> > > > > > would get some follow-up. It's a distinct, bordering on loud,
> > rattle
> > > > when
> > > > > > the TJ is idling in nuetral, with my foot off the clutch. If I
> push
> > > the
> > > > > > clutch in, it goes away.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How often does it happen?? Usually only when it is hot.
However,
> > it
> > > > > > doesn't happen all the time when it is hot. As a matter of
fact,
> it
> > > > > hasn't
> > > > > > happened in a while until I did some trail riding yesterday. At
> the
> > > end
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the ride I got out while it was running to reconnect my swaybar,
> and
> > > the
> > > > > > rattle was there. Also, sometimes when it gets hot, the
clutch...
> > > > > grabs...
> > > > > > a bit as I bring my foot up. Also makes a creaking noise at the
> > same
> > > > > time.
> > > > > > That has been happening for a long time, and I've learned to
> ignore
> > > it.
> > > > > > Thought that may have something to do with the rattle though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the help!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > > > > 2" Spacer Lift, TB Swap, AirAid Intake, and lots of other
> > money-eating
> > > > > > devices... ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Eric

I just rolled over 38k. The problem is fairly intermittent. I've been
thinking about it all day, and it occurs to me that the problem seems to
only pop up when the clutch has been getting a lot of use. I.e. on a trail
or running errands in town. The first time it popped up was after I had my
A/C installed (ahhh...), thought it was the compressor. I kept my eye on it
pretty close. It came and went. It COULD be that the noise happens when
there is a lot of idling in nuetral. You know, sitting at lights (I take it
out of gear..), or sitting on the trail chatting or connecting/disconnecting
swaybars... Hmmm..

Eric
99 TJ SE
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:IJ_ib.4405$qO7.3484@news01.roc.ny...
> It's remotely possible that it could damage the input shaft on the
> transmission. But it would have to fail drastically and then be driven
for
> many miles before that happens. I think you would have other symptoms
> before such a failure though (smell/smoke, no clutch, ect..). If the
noise
> is considerable and you feel uncomfortable, get it fixed (or better yet do
> it yourself). How many miles are on the TJ?
>
> JimG
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> news:kdYib.2198$WD1.657@news2.central.***.net...
> > This IS my daily driver. It actually started in Mississippi and I've
> since
> > driven it back to Nebraska. I don't drive it that often around here as
I
> > try to use my motorcycle while I can. What could go wrong if I don't
get
> it
> > fixed right away? Are we talking about tranny/engine damage??
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > news:FoTib.4177$Kg6.2969@news01.roc.ny...
> > > You can let it go to a point... the sound you here is a dry throw-out
> > > bearing that will eventually wear out. Mine has been doing the same
for
> > the
> > > last 1000 miles or so, but this is not my daily driver. You might be
> able
> > > to extend it's life by getting some lubrication to it. I am not
> familiar
> > > with the TJ but on the CJ there is a boot at the clutch linkage that
one
> > > could spray some WD40 or the like into and hit the bearing. And when
> you
> > do
> > > have to change it, plan on a complete clutch job... clutch, pressure
> > plate,
> > > throw-out, and pilot bearing.
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:MgJib.1017$WD1.174@news2.central.***.net...
> > > > That's what happens. If I press in the clutch pedal it goes away.
> Ok,
> > my
> > > > next question, can I let this go until one day my clutch doesn't
work
> or
> > > do
> > > > I need to get it fixed to prevent more costly repairs?
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:IdBib.3634$k_6.1156@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > Sounds like the throw-out bearing. Trail riding dusty roads or
mud
> > > holes
> > > > > causes more noise. That dust (or mud) will creep up into the bell
> > > housing
> > > > > and get in the throw-out bearing. While in neutral try pushing
the
> > > clutch
> > > > > pedal just a little... puts a bit of pressure on the throw-out
> > bearing.
> > > > If
> > > > > the noise stops, that's it.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > JimG
> > > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > > LockRight F&R
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:uxzib.385$WD1.374@news2.central.***.net...
> > > > > > My TJ (99 TJ SE) has developed a new noise, but is only
> > intermittent.
> > > I
> > > > > > mentioned this in a thread a while back, but it has dissapeared
> and
> > > > though
> > > > > I
> > > > > > would get some follow-up. It's a distinct, bordering on loud,
> > rattle
> > > > when
> > > > > > the TJ is idling in nuetral, with my foot off the clutch. If I
> push
> > > the
> > > > > > clutch in, it goes away.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How often does it happen?? Usually only when it is hot.
However,
> > it
> > > > > > doesn't happen all the time when it is hot. As a matter of
fact,
> it
> > > > > hasn't
> > > > > > happened in a while until I did some trail riding yesterday. At
> the
> > > end
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the ride I got out while it was running to reconnect my swaybar,
> and
> > > the
> > > > > > rattle was there. Also, sometimes when it gets hot, the
clutch...
> > > > > grabs...
> > > > > > a bit as I bring my foot up. Also makes a creaking noise at the
> > same
> > > > > time.
> > > > > > That has been happening for a long time, and I've learned to
> ignore
> > > it.
> > > > > > Thought that may have something to do with the rattle though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the help!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > > > > 2" Spacer Lift, TB Swap, AirAid Intake, and lots of other
> > money-eating
> > > > > > devices... ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

JimG

38K is no time for clutch to go out unless abused. As far as being in
neutral with the clutch out... that's the same as being in gear and going
down the road as far as the throw-out bearing is concerned. You just can't
hear it while in motion. The bearing comes into play when the clutch is
depressed, otherwise it just idles around the input shaft (and rattles).

JimG

"Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
news:Jx0jb.2267$WD1.920@news2.central.***.net...
> I just rolled over 38k. The problem is fairly intermittent. I've been
> thinking about it all day, and it occurs to me that the problem seems to
> only pop up when the clutch has been getting a lot of use. I.e. on a
trail
> or running errands in town. The first time it popped up was after I had
my
> A/C installed (ahhh...), thought it was the compressor. I kept my eye on
it
> pretty close. It came and went. It COULD be that the noise happens when
> there is a lot of idling in nuetral. You know, sitting at lights (I take
it
> out of gear..), or sitting on the trail chatting or
connecting/disconnecting
> swaybars... Hmmm..
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> news:IJ_ib.4405$qO7.3484@news01.roc.ny...
> > It's remotely possible that it could damage the input shaft on the
> > transmission. But it would have to fail drastically and then be driven
> for
> > many miles before that happens. I think you would have other symptoms
> > before such a failure though (smell/smoke, no clutch, ect..). If the
> noise
> > is considerable and you feel uncomfortable, get it fixed (or better yet
do
> > it yourself). How many miles are on the TJ?
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:kdYib.2198$WD1.657@news2.central.***.net...
> > > This IS my daily driver. It actually started in Mississippi and I've
> > since
> > > driven it back to Nebraska. I don't drive it that often around here
as
> I
> > > try to use my motorcycle while I can. What could go wrong if I don't
> get
> > it
> > > fixed right away? Are we talking about tranny/engine damage??
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 99 TJ SE
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > news:FoTib.4177$Kg6.2969@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > You can let it go to a point... the sound you here is a dry
throw-out
> > > > bearing that will eventually wear out. Mine has been doing the same
> for
> > > the
> > > > last 1000 miles or so, but this is not my daily driver. You might
be
> > able
> > > > to extend it's life by getting some lubrication to it. I am not
> > familiar
> > > > with the TJ but on the CJ there is a boot at the clutch linkage that
> one
> > > > could spray some WD40 or the like into and hit the bearing. And
when
> > you
> > > do
> > > > have to change it, plan on a complete clutch job... clutch, pressure
> > > plate,
> > > > throw-out, and pilot bearing.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:MgJib.1017$WD1.174@news2.central.***.net...
> > > > > That's what happens. If I press in the clutch pedal it goes away.
> > Ok,
> > > my
> > > > > next question, can I let this go until one day my clutch doesn't
> work
> > or
> > > > do
> > > > > I need to get it fixed to prevent more costly repairs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:IdBib.3634$k_6.1156@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Sounds like the throw-out bearing. Trail riding dusty roads or
> mud
> > > > holes
> > > > > > causes more noise. That dust (or mud) will creep up into the
bell
> > > > housing
> > > > > > and get in the throw-out bearing. While in neutral try pushing
> the
> > > > clutch
> > > > > > pedal just a little... puts a bit of pressure on the throw-out
> > > bearing.
> > > > > If
> > > > > > the noise stops, that's it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > > > LockRight F&R
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:uxzib.385$WD1.374@news2.central.***.net...
> > > > > > > My TJ (99 TJ SE) has developed a new noise, but is only
> > > intermittent.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > mentioned this in a thread a while back, but it has
dissapeared
> > and
> > > > > though
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > would get some follow-up. It's a distinct, bordering on loud,
> > > rattle
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > the TJ is idling in nuetral, with my foot off the clutch. If
I
> > push
> > > > the
> > > > > > > clutch in, it goes away.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How often does it happen?? Usually only when it is hot.
> However,
> > > it
> > > > > > > doesn't happen all the time when it is hot. As a matter of
> fact,
> > it
> > > > > > hasn't
> > > > > > > happened in a while until I did some trail riding yesterday.
At
> > the
> > > > end
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > the ride I got out while it was running to reconnect my
swaybar,
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > > rattle was there. Also, sometimes when it gets hot, the
> clutch...
> > > > > > grabs...
> > > > > > > a bit as I bring my foot up. Also makes a creaking noise at
the
> > > same
> > > > > > time.
> > > > > > > That has been happening for a long time, and I've learned to
> > ignore
> > > > it.
> > > > > > > Thought that may have something to do with the rattle though.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the help!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > > > > > 2" Spacer Lift, TB Swap, AirAid Intake, and lots of other
> > > money-eating
> > > > > > > devices... ;-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

JimG

38K is no time for clutch to go out unless abused. As far as being in
neutral with the clutch out... that's the same as being in gear and going
down the road as far as the throw-out bearing is concerned. You just can't
hear it while in motion. The bearing comes into play when the clutch is
depressed, otherwise it just idles around the input shaft (and rattles).

JimG

"Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
news:Jx0jb.2267$WD1.920@news2.central.***.net...
> I just rolled over 38k. The problem is fairly intermittent. I've been
> thinking about it all day, and it occurs to me that the problem seems to
> only pop up when the clutch has been getting a lot of use. I.e. on a
trail
> or running errands in town. The first time it popped up was after I had
my
> A/C installed (ahhh...), thought it was the compressor. I kept my eye on
it
> pretty close. It came and went. It COULD be that the noise happens when
> there is a lot of idling in nuetral. You know, sitting at lights (I take
it
> out of gear..), or sitting on the trail chatting or
connecting/disconnecting
> swaybars... Hmmm..
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> news:IJ_ib.4405$qO7.3484@news01.roc.ny...
> > It's remotely possible that it could damage the input shaft on the
> > transmission. But it would have to fail drastically and then be driven
> for
> > many miles before that happens. I think you would have other symptoms
> > before such a failure though (smell/smoke, no clutch, ect..). If the
> noise
> > is considerable and you feel uncomfortable, get it fixed (or better yet
do
> > it yourself). How many miles are on the TJ?
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:kdYib.2198$WD1.657@news2.central.***.net...
> > > This IS my daily driver. It actually started in Mississippi and I've
> > since
> > > driven it back to Nebraska. I don't drive it that often around here
as
> I
> > > try to use my motorcycle while I can. What could go wrong if I don't
> get
> > it
> > > fixed right away? Are we talking about tranny/engine damage??
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 99 TJ SE
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > news:FoTib.4177$Kg6.2969@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > You can let it go to a point... the sound you here is a dry
throw-out
> > > > bearing that will eventually wear out. Mine has been doing the same
> for
> > > the
> > > > last 1000 miles or so, but this is not my daily driver. You might
be
> > able
> > > > to extend it's life by getting some lubrication to it. I am not
> > familiar
> > > > with the TJ but on the CJ there is a boot at the clutch linkage that
> one
> > > > could spray some WD40 or the like into and hit the bearing. And
when
> > you
> > > do
> > > > have to change it, plan on a complete clutch job... clutch, pressure
> > > plate,
> > > > throw-out, and pilot bearing.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:MgJib.1017$WD1.174@news2.central.***.net...
> > > > > That's what happens. If I press in the clutch pedal it goes away.
> > Ok,
> > > my
> > > > > next question, can I let this go until one day my clutch doesn't
> work
> > or
> > > > do
> > > > > I need to get it fixed to prevent more costly repairs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:IdBib.3634$k_6.1156@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Sounds like the throw-out bearing. Trail riding dusty roads or
> mud
> > > > holes
> > > > > > causes more noise. That dust (or mud) will creep up into the
bell
> > > > housing
> > > > > > and get in the throw-out bearing. While in neutral try pushing
> the
> > > > clutch
> > > > > > pedal just a little... puts a bit of pressure on the throw-out
> > > bearing.
> > > > > If
> > > > > > the noise stops, that's it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > > > LockRight F&R
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:uxzib.385$WD1.374@news2.central.***.net...
> > > > > > > My TJ (99 TJ SE) has developed a new noise, but is only
> > > intermittent.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > mentioned this in a thread a while back, but it has
dissapeared
> > and
> > > > > though
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > would get some follow-up. It's a distinct, bordering on loud,
> > > rattle
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > the TJ is idling in nuetral, with my foot off the clutch. If
I
> > push
> > > > the
> > > > > > > clutch in, it goes away.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How often does it happen?? Usually only when it is hot.
> However,
> > > it
> > > > > > > doesn't happen all the time when it is hot. As a matter of
> fact,
> > it
> > > > > > hasn't
> > > > > > > happened in a while until I did some trail riding yesterday.
At
> > the
> > > > end
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > the ride I got out while it was running to reconnect my
swaybar,
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > > rattle was there. Also, sometimes when it gets hot, the
> clutch...
> > > > > > grabs...
> > > > > > > a bit as I bring my foot up. Also makes a creaking noise at
the
> > > same
> > > > > > time.
> > > > > > > That has been happening for a long time, and I've learned to
> > ignore
> > > > it.
> > > > > > > Thought that may have something to do with the rattle though.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the help!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > > > > > 2" Spacer Lift, TB Swap, AirAid Intake, and lots of other
> > > money-eating
> > > > > > > devices... ;-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

JimG

38K is no time for clutch to go out unless abused. As far as being in
neutral with the clutch out... that's the same as being in gear and going
down the road as far as the throw-out bearing is concerned. You just can't
hear it while in motion. The bearing comes into play when the clutch is
depressed, otherwise it just idles around the input shaft (and rattles).

JimG

"Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
news:Jx0jb.2267$WD1.920@news2.central.***.net...
> I just rolled over 38k. The problem is fairly intermittent. I've been
> thinking about it all day, and it occurs to me that the problem seems to
> only pop up when the clutch has been getting a lot of use. I.e. on a
trail
> or running errands in town. The first time it popped up was after I had
my
> A/C installed (ahhh...), thought it was the compressor. I kept my eye on
it
> pretty close. It came and went. It COULD be that the noise happens when
> there is a lot of idling in nuetral. You know, sitting at lights (I take
it
> out of gear..), or sitting on the trail chatting or
connecting/disconnecting
> swaybars... Hmmm..
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> news:IJ_ib.4405$qO7.3484@news01.roc.ny...
> > It's remotely possible that it could damage the input shaft on the
> > transmission. But it would have to fail drastically and then be driven
> for
> > many miles before that happens. I think you would have other symptoms
> > before such a failure though (smell/smoke, no clutch, ect..). If the
> noise
> > is considerable and you feel uncomfortable, get it fixed (or better yet
do
> > it yourself). How many miles are on the TJ?
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:kdYib.2198$WD1.657@news2.central.***.net...
> > > This IS my daily driver. It actually started in Mississippi and I've
> > since
> > > driven it back to Nebraska. I don't drive it that often around here
as
> I
> > > try to use my motorcycle while I can. What could go wrong if I don't
> get
> > it
> > > fixed right away? Are we talking about tranny/engine damage??
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 99 TJ SE
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > news:FoTib.4177$Kg6.2969@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > You can let it go to a point... the sound you here is a dry
throw-out
> > > > bearing that will eventually wear out. Mine has been doing the same
> for
> > > the
> > > > last 1000 miles or so, but this is not my daily driver. You might
be
> > able
> > > > to extend it's life by getting some lubrication to it. I am not
> > familiar
> > > > with the TJ but on the CJ there is a boot at the clutch linkage that
> one
> > > > could spray some WD40 or the like into and hit the bearing. And
when
> > you
> > > do
> > > > have to change it, plan on a complete clutch job... clutch, pressure
> > > plate,
> > > > throw-out, and pilot bearing.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:MgJib.1017$WD1.174@news2.central.***.net...
> > > > > That's what happens. If I press in the clutch pedal it goes away.
> > Ok,
> > > my
> > > > > next question, can I let this go until one day my clutch doesn't
> work
> > or
> > > > do
> > > > > I need to get it fixed to prevent more costly repairs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:IdBib.3634$k_6.1156@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Sounds like the throw-out bearing. Trail riding dusty roads or
> mud
> > > > holes
> > > > > > causes more noise. That dust (or mud) will creep up into the
bell
> > > > housing
> > > > > > and get in the throw-out bearing. While in neutral try pushing
> the
> > > > clutch
> > > > > > pedal just a little... puts a bit of pressure on the throw-out
> > > bearing.
> > > > > If
> > > > > > the noise stops, that's it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > > > LockRight F&R
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:uxzib.385$WD1.374@news2.central.***.net...
> > > > > > > My TJ (99 TJ SE) has developed a new noise, but is only
> > > intermittent.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > mentioned this in a thread a while back, but it has
dissapeared
> > and
> > > > > though
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > would get some follow-up. It's a distinct, bordering on loud,
> > > rattle
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > the TJ is idling in nuetral, with my foot off the clutch. If
I
> > push
> > > > the
> > > > > > > clutch in, it goes away.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How often does it happen?? Usually only when it is hot.
> However,
> > > it
> > > > > > > doesn't happen all the time when it is hot. As a matter of
> fact,
> > it
> > > > > > hasn't
> > > > > > > happened in a while until I did some trail riding yesterday.
At
> > the
> > > > end
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > the ride I got out while it was running to reconnect my
swaybar,
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > > rattle was there. Also, sometimes when it gets hot, the
> clutch...
> > > > > > grabs...
> > > > > > > a bit as I bring my foot up. Also makes a creaking noise at
the
> > > same
> > > > > > time.
> > > > > > > That has been happening for a long time, and I've learned to
> > ignore
> > > > it.
> > > > > > > Thought that may have something to do with the rattle though.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the help!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > > > > > 2" Spacer Lift, TB Swap, AirAid Intake, and lots of other
> > > money-eating
> > > > > > > devices... ;-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>