Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 

jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:

> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Best guess is the throwout bearing. Dried grease, etc. Next guess -
because it sat so long - would be rust on the face of the throwout or the
clutch fingers. I've seen rust there act like a coating that squeals
forever. That squeal should only happen as you engage/release but go away
as you increase the pressure. Either way, you'll likely cure it with a new
throwout - but you still have to pull the tranny.

--
Will Honea

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 

jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:

> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Best guess is the throwout bearing. Dried grease, etc. Next guess -
because it sat so long - would be rust on the face of the throwout or the
clutch fingers. I've seen rust there act like a coating that squeals
forever. That squeal should only happen as you engage/release but go away
as you increase the pressure. Either way, you'll likely cure it with a new
throwout - but you still have to pull the tranny.

--
Will Honea

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 

jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:

> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Best guess is the throwout bearing. Dried grease, etc. Next guess -
because it sat so long - would be rust on the face of the throwout or the
clutch fingers. I've seen rust there act like a coating that squeals
forever. That squeal should only happen as you engage/release but go away
as you increase the pressure. Either way, you'll likely cure it with a new
throwout - but you still have to pull the tranny.

--
Will Honea

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 

If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

<jpurl77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185075767.245285.267180@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>



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Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 

If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

<jpurl77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185075767.245285.267180@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>



--
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Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 

If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

<jpurl77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185075767.245285.267180@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>



--
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Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 

If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

<jpurl77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185075767.245285.267180@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>



--
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Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:23:57 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
empty space between those ears.

> If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
>motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
>http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
> The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
>input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
>mailto:--------------------
>


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Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:23:57 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
empty space between those ears.

> If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
>motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
>http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
> The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
>input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
>mailto:--------------------
>


Recipe for a Psychopath:

Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:23:57 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
empty space between those ears.

> If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
>motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
>http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
> The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
>input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
>mailto:--------------------
>


Recipe for a Psychopath:

Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III