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jpurl77@hotmail.com 07-21-2007 11:42 PM

clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
since then.
now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
(good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
clutch is grabbing pretty good...
any suggestions would be greatly appreciated


SnoMan 07-22-2007 10:29 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:42:47 -0700, jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:

>here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
>tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
>couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
>dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
>and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
>removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
>since then.
>now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
>the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
>chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
>clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
>going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
>spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
>gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
>(good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
>clutch is grabbing pretty good...
>any suggestions would be greatly appreciated



Sounds like a issue with throwout bearing being bad or improperly
installed. The bad part is you have to pull tranny to inspec/repair
it. When you changed trannies to you confirm that there was no
difference in throwout bear design or needs?
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 07-22-2007 10:29 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:42:47 -0700, jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:

>here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
>tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
>couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
>dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
>and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
>removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
>since then.
>now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
>the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
>chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
>clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
>going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
>spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
>gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
>(good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
>clutch is grabbing pretty good...
>any suggestions would be greatly appreciated



Sounds like a issue with throwout bearing being bad or improperly
installed. The bad part is you have to pull tranny to inspec/repair
it. When you changed trannies to you confirm that there was no
difference in throwout bear design or needs?
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 07-22-2007 10:29 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:42:47 -0700, jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:

>here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
>tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
>couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
>dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
>and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
>removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
>since then.
>now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
>the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
>chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
>clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
>going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
>spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
>gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
>(good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
>clutch is grabbing pretty good...
>any suggestions would be greatly appreciated



Sounds like a issue with throwout bearing being bad or improperly
installed. The bad part is you have to pull tranny to inspec/repair
it. When you changed trannies to you confirm that there was no
difference in throwout bear design or needs?
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 07-22-2007 10:29 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:42:47 -0700, jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:

>here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
>tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
>couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
>dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
>and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
>removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
>since then.
>now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
>the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
>chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
>clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
>going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
>spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
>gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
>(good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
>clutch is grabbing pretty good...
>any suggestions would be greatly appreciated



Sounds like a issue with throwout bearing being bad or improperly
installed. The bad part is you have to pull tranny to inspec/repair
it. When you changed trannies to you confirm that there was no
difference in throwout bear design or needs?
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Mike Romain 07-22-2007 10:53 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:
> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>


My guess is the grease has dried out in the throw out bearing. No
fixing it short of talking the tranny out.

I would try it for a bit to see if it loosens up before ripping it apart.

What I want to know is how in heck can you take a tranny off without
taking off the bell housing?????

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 07-22-2007 10:53 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:
> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>


My guess is the grease has dried out in the throw out bearing. No
fixing it short of talking the tranny out.

I would try it for a bit to see if it loosens up before ripping it apart.

What I want to know is how in heck can you take a tranny off without
taking off the bell housing?????

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 07-22-2007 10:53 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:
> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>


My guess is the grease has dried out in the throw out bearing. No
fixing it short of talking the tranny out.

I would try it for a bit to see if it loosens up before ripping it apart.

What I want to know is how in heck can you take a tranny off without
taking off the bell housing?????

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 07-22-2007 10:53 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:
> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>


My guess is the grease has dried out in the throw out bearing. No
fixing it short of talking the tranny out.

I would try it for a bit to see if it loosens up before ripping it apart.

What I want to know is how in heck can you take a tranny off without
taking off the bell housing?????

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Will Honea 07-22-2007 03:06 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:

> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated


Best guess is the throwout bearing. Dried grease, etc. Next guess -
because it sat so long - would be rust on the face of the throwout or the
clutch fingers. I've seen rust there act like a coating that squeals
forever. That squeal should only happen as you engage/release but go away
as you increase the pressure. Either way, you'll likely cure it with a new
throwout - but you still have to pull the tranny.

--
Will Honea

Will Honea 07-22-2007 03:06 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:

> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated


Best guess is the throwout bearing. Dried grease, etc. Next guess -
because it sat so long - would be rust on the face of the throwout or the
clutch fingers. I've seen rust there act like a coating that squeals
forever. That squeal should only happen as you engage/release but go away
as you increase the pressure. Either way, you'll likely cure it with a new
throwout - but you still have to pull the tranny.

--
Will Honea

Will Honea 07-22-2007 03:06 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:

> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated


Best guess is the throwout bearing. Dried grease, etc. Next guess -
because it sat so long - would be rust on the face of the throwout or the
clutch fingers. I've seen rust there act like a coating that squeals
forever. That squeal should only happen as you engage/release but go away
as you increase the pressure. Either way, you'll likely cure it with a new
throwout - but you still have to pull the tranny.

--
Will Honea

Will Honea 07-22-2007 03:06 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
jpurl77@hotmail.com wrote:

> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated


Best guess is the throwout bearing. Dried grease, etc. Next guess -
because it sat so long - would be rust on the face of the throwout or the
clutch fingers. I've seen rust there act like a coating that squeals
forever. That squeal should only happen as you engage/release but go away
as you increase the pressure. Either way, you'll likely cure it with a new
throwout - but you still have to pull the tranny.

--
Will Honea

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 07-22-2007 04:23 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

<jpurl77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185075767.245285.267180@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 07-22-2007 04:23 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

<jpurl77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185075767.245285.267180@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 07-22-2007 04:23 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

<jpurl77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185075767.245285.267180@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 07-22-2007 04:23 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

<jpurl77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185075767.245285.267180@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> here's the full history. 5 years ago my dad and i rebuilt the sr-4
> tranny (stuck in 3rd gear) in my 80, cj7. it crapped out within a
> couple months, (stuck in 3rd gear again) and it sat since then. so i
> dropped the sr-4 and picked up a t-4. rebuilt the t-4, new bearings
> and seals, etc.. stabbed the tranny back in, bellhousing never
> removed. pretty sure i replaced the clutch 5 years ago, but i've slept
> since then.
> now to the noise. if sitting idle in neutral (while tinkering around)
> the noise never occurs. a soon as i press in the clutch i hear a
> chattering/rattling noise in gear or out. as soon as i disengage the
> clutch the noise stops. i checked the linkage and it's not loose. i'm
> going over to work on it tommorow and will check if linkage is to
> spec. what could be rattling around? my little helper put it back in
> gear when i wasn't looking, so i've started it in gear and it lunged.
> (good thing something told me to chock the tires :) ) so i'd say the
> clutch is grabbing pretty good...
> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>




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24BitŪ 07-22-2007 06:33 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:23:57 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
empty space between those ears.

> If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
>motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
>http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
> The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
>input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
>mailto:--------------------
>



Recipe for a Psychopath:

Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III

24BitŪ 07-22-2007 06:33 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:23:57 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
empty space between those ears.

> If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
>motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
>http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
> The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
>input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
>mailto:--------------------
>



Recipe for a Psychopath:

Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III

24BitŪ 07-22-2007 06:33 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:23:57 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
empty space between those ears.

> If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
>motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
>http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
> The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
>input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
>mailto:--------------------
>



Recipe for a Psychopath:

Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III

24BitŪ 07-22-2007 06:33 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:23:57 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
empty space between those ears.

> If it chatters especially in reverse, it's the engine rocking in it's
>motor mounts, replace the stabilizer:
>http://www.----------.com/cj7stablizerMount.jpg
> The bad synchro ring (expanded so as to not fit the cog collar) by a bad
>input to output shaft bearing, caused by towing in neutral.
>mailto:--------------------
>



Recipe for a Psychopath:

Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 07-22-2007 07:54 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had
to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via
remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just
gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of
Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its
senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to
use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would,
totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
news:emm7a39k0itu5p7hg26pv1vv1m1g9snjdt@4ax.com...
>
> The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
> empty space between those ears.
>
> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 07-22-2007 07:54 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had
to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via
remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just
gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of
Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its
senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to
use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would,
totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
news:emm7a39k0itu5p7hg26pv1vv1m1g9snjdt@4ax.com...
>
> The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
> empty space between those ears.
>
> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 07-22-2007 07:54 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had
to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via
remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just
gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of
Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its
senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to
use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would,
totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
news:emm7a39k0itu5p7hg26pv1vv1m1g9snjdt@4ax.com...
>
> The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
> empty space between those ears.
>
> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 07-22-2007 07:54 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had
to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via
remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just
gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of
Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its
senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to
use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would,
totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
news:emm7a39k0itu5p7hg26pv1vv1m1g9snjdt@4ax.com...
>
> The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
> empty space between those ears.
>
> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III




--
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Claude Horribly 07-22-2007 10:12 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:54:41 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

A -> which you're a habitual lair,

B -> so these plus your other accusations would be thrown out of court.


You have to prove A to get B, which you can't do.

Claiming the Bart Simpson defense, I see. Good choice.



`


Claude Horribly 07-22-2007 10:12 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:54:41 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

A -> which you're a habitual lair,

B -> so these plus your other accusations would be thrown out of court.


You have to prove A to get B, which you can't do.

Claiming the Bart Simpson defense, I see. Good choice.



`


Claude Horribly 07-22-2007 10:12 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:54:41 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

A -> which you're a habitual lair,

B -> so these plus your other accusations would be thrown out of court.


You have to prove A to get B, which you can't do.

Claiming the Bart Simpson defense, I see. Good choice.



`


Claude Horribly 07-22-2007 10:12 PM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:54:41 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

A -> which you're a habitual lair,

B -> so these plus your other accusations would be thrown out of court.


You have to prove A to get B, which you can't do.

Claiming the Bart Simpson defense, I see. Good choice.



`


24BitŪ 07-23-2007 01:25 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:54:41 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

Aha hell Goatman, don't worry about things being thrown out of court,
you'll be long DEAD before the system catches up with ya!


> Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
>other accusations would be thrown out of court.
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:emm7a39k0itu5p7hg26pv1vv1m1g9snjdt@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
>> empty space between those ears.



Recipe for a Psychopath:

Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III

24BitŪ 07-23-2007 01:25 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:54:41 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

Aha hell Goatman, don't worry about things being thrown out of court,
you'll be long DEAD before the system catches up with ya!


> Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
>other accusations would be thrown out of court.
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:emm7a39k0itu5p7hg26pv1vv1m1g9snjdt@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
>> empty space between those ears.



Recipe for a Psychopath:

Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III

24BitŪ 07-23-2007 01:25 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:54:41 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

Aha hell Goatman, don't worry about things being thrown out of court,
you'll be long DEAD before the system catches up with ya!


> Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
>other accusations would be thrown out of court.
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:emm7a39k0itu5p7hg26pv1vv1m1g9snjdt@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
>> empty space between those ears.



Recipe for a Psychopath:

Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III

24BitŪ 07-23-2007 01:25 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:54:41 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

Aha hell Goatman, don't worry about things being thrown out of court,
you'll be long DEAD before the system catches up with ya!


> Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
>other accusations would be thrown out of court.
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:emm7a39k0itu5p7hg26pv1vv1m1g9snjdt@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> The rattle is your two little brain cells banging together, a bunch of
>> empty space between those ears.



Recipe for a Psychopath:

Emotional & Interpersonal
Glib & Superficial
Egocentric & Grandiose
Lack of Remorse or Guilt
Lack of Empathy
Deceitful & Manipulative
Shallow Emotions
Social Deviance
Impulsive
Poor Behavior Controls
Need for Excitement
Lack of Responsibility
Early Behavior Problems
Adult Antisocial Behavior

This is your life,

L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman------- III

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 07-23-2007 02:04 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had
to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via
remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just
gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of
Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its
senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to
use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would,
totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
news:4vd8a3lp22ean05hhcttq5u0telar74fbq@4ax.com...
>
> Aha hell Goatman, don't worry about things being thrown out of court,
> you'll be long DEAD before the system catches up with ya!
><snip queer ------ fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous

senile babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>



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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 07-23-2007 02:04 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had
to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via
remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just
gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of
Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its
senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to
use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would,
totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
news:4vd8a3lp22ean05hhcttq5u0telar74fbq@4ax.com...
>
> Aha hell Goatman, don't worry about things being thrown out of court,
> you'll be long DEAD before the system catches up with ya!
><snip queer ------ fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous

senile babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>



--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 07-23-2007 02:04 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had
to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via
remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just
gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of
Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its
senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to
use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would,
totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
news:4vd8a3lp22ean05hhcttq5u0telar74fbq@4ax.com...
>
> Aha hell Goatman, don't worry about things being thrown out of court,
> you'll be long DEAD before the system catches up with ya!
><snip queer ------ fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous

senile babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 07-23-2007 02:04 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had
to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via
remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just
gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of
Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its
senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to
use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would,
totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
news:4vd8a3lp22ean05hhcttq5u0telar74fbq@4ax.com...
>
> Aha hell Goatman, don't worry about things being thrown out of court,
> you'll be long DEAD before the system catches up with ya!
><snip queer ------ fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous

senile babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Claude Horribly 07-23-2007 02:40 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:04:30 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> elementary


Just more grades you missed.









Claude Horribly 07-23-2007 02:40 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:04:30 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> elementary


Just more grades you missed.









Claude Horribly 07-23-2007 02:40 AM

Re: clutch chatter/rattle noise
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:04:30 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> elementary


Just more grades you missed.










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