"Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
01-03-2005, 06:42 PM
#61
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 03:22:00 GMT, Dean wrote:
> On occasion my TJ will make a clunking noise from the front end when I turn left
> or right. It is always caused by the upper track arm mount coming loose. (I
> have the nasty Rubicon Express track arm :-( A few minutes with a wrench fixes
> the problem for me.
I tried to "wiggle" the track bar the other day but couldn't get any
significant movement and didn't see any problems at the joints. Of course,
probably can't exert quite the same force as the vehicle. I'll do a more
thorough inspection tonight.
Thanks!
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> On occasion my TJ will make a clunking noise from the front end when I turn left
> or right. It is always caused by the upper track arm mount coming loose. (I
> have the nasty Rubicon Express track arm :-( A few minutes with a wrench fixes
> the problem for me.
I tried to "wiggle" the track bar the other day but couldn't get any
significant movement and didn't see any problems at the joints. Of course,
probably can't exert quite the same force as the vehicle. I'll do a more
thorough inspection tonight.
Thanks!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
01-03-2005, 06:44 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:04:21 -0500, Snow wrote:
> Check the "ball" end of the track bar (on the drivers side mount), mine was
> well worn out when I recently had it replaced, but when it started clunking
> it was only doing so on turns. Have someone start up the J**P and turn the
> wheel from lock to lock while you look under at the track bar mount, the
> joint could be moving in the mount, the hole goes egg shape as it wears.
Thanks a bunch, snow. I'll be checking this tonight as well. I've noticed
that sometimes I can catch it just right on a turn where the clunking
continues rapidly through the whole turn until I correct the wheel again.
Did this ever happen to you?
Thanks!
--
becker;
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> Check the "ball" end of the track bar (on the drivers side mount), mine was
> well worn out when I recently had it replaced, but when it started clunking
> it was only doing so on turns. Have someone start up the J**P and turn the
> wheel from lock to lock while you look under at the track bar mount, the
> joint could be moving in the mount, the hole goes egg shape as it wears.
Thanks a bunch, snow. I'll be checking this tonight as well. I've noticed
that sometimes I can catch it just right on a turn where the clunking
continues rapidly through the whole turn until I correct the wheel again.
Did this ever happen to you?
Thanks!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
01-03-2005, 06:44 PM
#63
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:04:21 -0500, Snow wrote:
> Check the "ball" end of the track bar (on the drivers side mount), mine was
> well worn out when I recently had it replaced, but when it started clunking
> it was only doing so on turns. Have someone start up the J**P and turn the
> wheel from lock to lock while you look under at the track bar mount, the
> joint could be moving in the mount, the hole goes egg shape as it wears.
Thanks a bunch, snow. I'll be checking this tonight as well. I've noticed
that sometimes I can catch it just right on a turn where the clunking
continues rapidly through the whole turn until I correct the wheel again.
Did this ever happen to you?
Thanks!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
> Check the "ball" end of the track bar (on the drivers side mount), mine was
> well worn out when I recently had it replaced, but when it started clunking
> it was only doing so on turns. Have someone start up the J**P and turn the
> wheel from lock to lock while you look under at the track bar mount, the
> joint could be moving in the mount, the hole goes egg shape as it wears.
Thanks a bunch, snow. I'll be checking this tonight as well. I've noticed
that sometimes I can catch it just right on a turn where the clunking
continues rapidly through the whole turn until I correct the wheel again.
Did this ever happen to you?
Thanks!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
01-03-2005, 06:44 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:04:21 -0500, Snow wrote:
> Check the "ball" end of the track bar (on the drivers side mount), mine was
> well worn out when I recently had it replaced, but when it started clunking
> it was only doing so on turns. Have someone start up the J**P and turn the
> wheel from lock to lock while you look under at the track bar mount, the
> joint could be moving in the mount, the hole goes egg shape as it wears.
Thanks a bunch, snow. I'll be checking this tonight as well. I've noticed
that sometimes I can catch it just right on a turn where the clunking
continues rapidly through the whole turn until I correct the wheel again.
Did this ever happen to you?
Thanks!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
> Check the "ball" end of the track bar (on the drivers side mount), mine was
> well worn out when I recently had it replaced, but when it started clunking
> it was only doing so on turns. Have someone start up the J**P and turn the
> wheel from lock to lock while you look under at the track bar mount, the
> joint could be moving in the mount, the hole goes egg shape as it wears.
Thanks a bunch, snow. I'll be checking this tonight as well. I've noticed
that sometimes I can catch it just right on a turn where the clunking
continues rapidly through the whole turn until I correct the wheel again.
Did this ever happen to you?
Thanks!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
01-03-2005, 07:48 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
I rechecked all of the bushings and had a question about the state of the
ones found on the swaybar.
Should the gap here be this large? (It's the same on the other side)
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-link1.jpg
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-link2.jpg
This side (outside) looks ok to me:
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-mount1.jpg
But the inside seemed really smashed. It's hard to see in this pic because
I had a hard time maneuvering the camera in there.
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-mount2.jpg
Other than that, the bushings on the track bar and the rest of the
suspension look old, but in relatively good shape.
Thanks!
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:06:35 -0600, Mike Becker wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
ones found on the swaybar.
Should the gap here be this large? (It's the same on the other side)
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-link1.jpg
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-link2.jpg
This side (outside) looks ok to me:
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-mount1.jpg
But the inside seemed really smashed. It's hard to see in this pic because
I had a hard time maneuvering the camera in there.
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-mount2.jpg
Other than that, the bushings on the track bar and the rest of the
suspension look old, but in relatively good shape.
Thanks!
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:06:35 -0600, Mike Becker wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
01-03-2005, 07:48 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
I rechecked all of the bushings and had a question about the state of the
ones found on the swaybar.
Should the gap here be this large? (It's the same on the other side)
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-link1.jpg
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-link2.jpg
This side (outside) looks ok to me:
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-mount1.jpg
But the inside seemed really smashed. It's hard to see in this pic because
I had a hard time maneuvering the camera in there.
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-mount2.jpg
Other than that, the bushings on the track bar and the rest of the
suspension look old, but in relatively good shape.
Thanks!
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:06:35 -0600, Mike Becker wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
ones found on the swaybar.
Should the gap here be this large? (It's the same on the other side)
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-link1.jpg
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-link2.jpg
This side (outside) looks ok to me:
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-mount1.jpg
But the inside seemed really smashed. It's hard to see in this pic because
I had a hard time maneuvering the camera in there.
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-mount2.jpg
Other than that, the bushings on the track bar and the rest of the
suspension look old, but in relatively good shape.
Thanks!
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:06:35 -0600, Mike Becker wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
01-03-2005, 07:48 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
I rechecked all of the bushings and had a question about the state of the
ones found on the swaybar.
Should the gap here be this large? (It's the same on the other side)
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-link1.jpg
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-link2.jpg
This side (outside) looks ok to me:
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-mount1.jpg
But the inside seemed really smashed. It's hard to see in this pic because
I had a hard time maneuvering the camera in there.
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-mount2.jpg
Other than that, the bushings on the track bar and the rest of the
suspension look old, but in relatively good shape.
Thanks!
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:06:35 -0600, Mike Becker wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
ones found on the swaybar.
Should the gap here be this large? (It's the same on the other side)
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-link1.jpg
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-link2.jpg
This side (outside) looks ok to me:
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-mount1.jpg
But the inside seemed really smashed. It's hard to see in this pic because
I had a hard time maneuvering the camera in there.
http://www.mwjtc.com/jeep/sway-mount2.jpg
Other than that, the bushings on the track bar and the rest of the
suspension look old, but in relatively good shape.
Thanks!
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:06:35 -0600, Mike Becker wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
01-03-2005, 08:15 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
In most areas the dealers order out some fairly similar units, so if
some dealer thinks 2wd is the way to go, that's what they order. And by
gosh, if that is the only thing the dealer has to demo and sell, that is
what sells.
In the land of snow and 10,000 salt trucks, a 2wd Cherokee is a very
rare bird. 5 speeds in anything that is not "sporty" are pretty rare
also. Try finding a 4 door ANYTHING, with a 5 speed!
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> This one is listed as a 4wd, 2-door cherokee...
>
> Roy, I visited my parents in South Arkansas shortly after I bought a '93
> Cherokee, and my dad was impressed with it, he was looking for one to buy.
> In town, every one I saw on the road or in a dealer's lot down there was
> 2wd.
>
> "Jp Davis" <jp_yj@hotmailBITCH.com> wrote in message
> news:4LeCd.678716$Pl.414665@pd7tw1no...
>
>>http://www.canadatrader.com/result/d...x?adID=5111958
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:k5eCd.16200$RH4.13030@newsread1.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...
>>
>>>Heh, heh, I've never seen a 2wd Cherokee!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
some dealer thinks 2wd is the way to go, that's what they order. And by
gosh, if that is the only thing the dealer has to demo and sell, that is
what sells.
In the land of snow and 10,000 salt trucks, a 2wd Cherokee is a very
rare bird. 5 speeds in anything that is not "sporty" are pretty rare
also. Try finding a 4 door ANYTHING, with a 5 speed!
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> This one is listed as a 4wd, 2-door cherokee...
>
> Roy, I visited my parents in South Arkansas shortly after I bought a '93
> Cherokee, and my dad was impressed with it, he was looking for one to buy.
> In town, every one I saw on the road or in a dealer's lot down there was
> 2wd.
>
> "Jp Davis" <jp_yj@hotmailBITCH.com> wrote in message
> news:4LeCd.678716$Pl.414665@pd7tw1no...
>
>>http://www.canadatrader.com/result/d...x?adID=5111958
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:k5eCd.16200$RH4.13030@newsread1.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...
>>
>>>Heh, heh, I've never seen a 2wd Cherokee!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
01-03-2005, 08:15 PM
#69
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
In most areas the dealers order out some fairly similar units, so if
some dealer thinks 2wd is the way to go, that's what they order. And by
gosh, if that is the only thing the dealer has to demo and sell, that is
what sells.
In the land of snow and 10,000 salt trucks, a 2wd Cherokee is a very
rare bird. 5 speeds in anything that is not "sporty" are pretty rare
also. Try finding a 4 door ANYTHING, with a 5 speed!
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> This one is listed as a 4wd, 2-door cherokee...
>
> Roy, I visited my parents in South Arkansas shortly after I bought a '93
> Cherokee, and my dad was impressed with it, he was looking for one to buy.
> In town, every one I saw on the road or in a dealer's lot down there was
> 2wd.
>
> "Jp Davis" <jp_yj@hotmailBITCH.com> wrote in message
> news:4LeCd.678716$Pl.414665@pd7tw1no...
>
>>http://www.canadatrader.com/result/d...x?adID=5111958
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:k5eCd.16200$RH4.13030@newsread1.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...
>>
>>>Heh, heh, I've never seen a 2wd Cherokee!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
some dealer thinks 2wd is the way to go, that's what they order. And by
gosh, if that is the only thing the dealer has to demo and sell, that is
what sells.
In the land of snow and 10,000 salt trucks, a 2wd Cherokee is a very
rare bird. 5 speeds in anything that is not "sporty" are pretty rare
also. Try finding a 4 door ANYTHING, with a 5 speed!
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> This one is listed as a 4wd, 2-door cherokee...
>
> Roy, I visited my parents in South Arkansas shortly after I bought a '93
> Cherokee, and my dad was impressed with it, he was looking for one to buy.
> In town, every one I saw on the road or in a dealer's lot down there was
> 2wd.
>
> "Jp Davis" <jp_yj@hotmailBITCH.com> wrote in message
> news:4LeCd.678716$Pl.414665@pd7tw1no...
>
>>http://www.canadatrader.com/result/d...x?adID=5111958
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:k5eCd.16200$RH4.13030@newsread1.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...
>>
>>>Heh, heh, I've never seen a 2wd Cherokee!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
01-03-2005, 08:15 PM
#70
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
In most areas the dealers order out some fairly similar units, so if
some dealer thinks 2wd is the way to go, that's what they order. And by
gosh, if that is the only thing the dealer has to demo and sell, that is
what sells.
In the land of snow and 10,000 salt trucks, a 2wd Cherokee is a very
rare bird. 5 speeds in anything that is not "sporty" are pretty rare
also. Try finding a 4 door ANYTHING, with a 5 speed!
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> This one is listed as a 4wd, 2-door cherokee...
>
> Roy, I visited my parents in South Arkansas shortly after I bought a '93
> Cherokee, and my dad was impressed with it, he was looking for one to buy.
> In town, every one I saw on the road or in a dealer's lot down there was
> 2wd.
>
> "Jp Davis" <jp_yj@hotmailBITCH.com> wrote in message
> news:4LeCd.678716$Pl.414665@pd7tw1no...
>
>>http://www.canadatrader.com/result/d...x?adID=5111958
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:k5eCd.16200$RH4.13030@newsread1.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...
>>
>>>Heh, heh, I've never seen a 2wd Cherokee!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
some dealer thinks 2wd is the way to go, that's what they order. And by
gosh, if that is the only thing the dealer has to demo and sell, that is
what sells.
In the land of snow and 10,000 salt trucks, a 2wd Cherokee is a very
rare bird. 5 speeds in anything that is not "sporty" are pretty rare
also. Try finding a 4 door ANYTHING, with a 5 speed!
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> This one is listed as a 4wd, 2-door cherokee...
>
> Roy, I visited my parents in South Arkansas shortly after I bought a '93
> Cherokee, and my dad was impressed with it, he was looking for one to buy.
> In town, every one I saw on the road or in a dealer's lot down there was
> 2wd.
>
> "Jp Davis" <jp_yj@hotmailBITCH.com> wrote in message
> news:4LeCd.678716$Pl.414665@pd7tw1no...
>
>>http://www.canadatrader.com/result/d...x?adID=5111958
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:k5eCd.16200$RH4.13030@newsread1.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...
>>
>>>Heh, heh, I've never seen a 2wd Cherokee!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
