"Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
01-02-2005, 03:06 PM
#1
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"Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
$400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
side, but never both.
When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
problem remains.
I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
could test?
THANKS a TON!!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
$400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
side, but never both.
When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
problem remains.
I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
could test?
THANKS a TON!!
--
becker;
email = remove the fruit;
01-02-2005, 03:09 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
Mike Becker did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
Have you checked every suspension bolt for proper torque?
Have you checked the sway bar for broken mounts and
the track bar for shot bushings?
This was the cause of some klunking/popping in my ZJ.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/swaybar/
--
DougW
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
Have you checked every suspension bolt for proper torque?
Have you checked the sway bar for broken mounts and
the track bar for shot bushings?
This was the cause of some klunking/popping in my ZJ.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/swaybar/
--
DougW
01-02-2005, 03:09 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
Mike Becker did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
Have you checked every suspension bolt for proper torque?
Have you checked the sway bar for broken mounts and
the track bar for shot bushings?
This was the cause of some klunking/popping in my ZJ.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/swaybar/
--
DougW
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
Have you checked every suspension bolt for proper torque?
Have you checked the sway bar for broken mounts and
the track bar for shot bushings?
This was the cause of some klunking/popping in my ZJ.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/swaybar/
--
DougW
01-02-2005, 03:09 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
Mike Becker did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
Have you checked every suspension bolt for proper torque?
Have you checked the sway bar for broken mounts and
the track bar for shot bushings?
This was the cause of some klunking/popping in my ZJ.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/swaybar/
--
DougW
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
Have you checked every suspension bolt for proper torque?
Have you checked the sway bar for broken mounts and
the track bar for shot bushings?
This was the cause of some klunking/popping in my ZJ.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/swaybar/
--
DougW
01-02-2005, 03:41 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
I'd take a quick check of the front U-joints. At 100k they both should
need replacing. Check for a tell talke ring of rust around the grease
seals on the cross shafts.
Mike Becker wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
>
need replacing. Check for a tell talke ring of rust around the grease
seals on the cross shafts.
Mike Becker wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
>
01-02-2005, 03:41 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
I'd take a quick check of the front U-joints. At 100k they both should
need replacing. Check for a tell talke ring of rust around the grease
seals on the cross shafts.
Mike Becker wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
>
need replacing. Check for a tell talke ring of rust around the grease
seals on the cross shafts.
Mike Becker wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
>
01-02-2005, 03:41 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
I'd take a quick check of the front U-joints. At 100k they both should
need replacing. Check for a tell talke ring of rust around the grease
seals on the cross shafts.
Mike Becker wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
>
need replacing. Check for a tell talke ring of rust around the grease
seals on the cross shafts.
Mike Becker wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
>
01-02-2005, 04:06 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
Front axle Universal Joint failure:
http://www.madxj.com/MADXJ/technical...97andSeals.htm
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Mike Becker wrote:
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
>
> --
> becker;
> email = remove the fruit;
http://www.madxj.com/MADXJ/technical...97andSeals.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Becker wrote:
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
>
> --
> becker;
> email = remove the fruit;
01-02-2005, 04:06 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
Front axle Universal Joint failure:
http://www.madxj.com/MADXJ/technical...97andSeals.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Becker wrote:
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
>
> --
> becker;
> email = remove the fruit;
http://www.madxj.com/MADXJ/technical...97andSeals.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Becker wrote:
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
>
> --
> becker;
> email = remove the fruit;
01-02-2005, 04:06 PM
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Re: "Clunk!" in Front End During Slow Turns
Front axle Universal Joint failure:
http://www.madxj.com/MADXJ/technical...97andSeals.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Becker wrote:
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
>
> --
> becker;
> email = remove the fruit;
http://www.madxj.com/MADXJ/technical...97andSeals.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Becker wrote:
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on this. I've spent about
> $400 on two different sets of wheel hubs trying to track this one down and
> have worn out the search function of web forums and newsgroups.
>
> I have a '98 Cherokee with about 100k miles on it. During any sort of
> slower turn (sub 15mph) a loud "clunk" noise shoots out from the front end
> of the vehicle. It is sometimes a single clunk, and sometimes a rapid 3-4
> succession of clunks. Standing outside the vehicle, it sounds like it's
> coming directly from the wheel. It clunks from either the left or right
> side, but never both.
>
> When this first started, I assumed the hubs were shot and replaced them.
> Unfortunately the problem continued. Everything I read was still pointing
> at the hubs, so I went ahead and bought a different set from Napa, but the
> problem remains.
>
> I'm pretty sure my hub installation is solid: 175ft-lbs on spindle nut, 75
> ft-lbs on hub bolts, and lots of bearing grease everywhere. At this point
> I'm assuming the problem is in either the steering or suspension. Of
> course, I've checked it over fairly well, and it seems solid.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions at all for what it might be, and a how I
> could test?
>
> THANKS a TON!!
>
> --
> becker;
> email = remove the fruit;