CJ7 Automatic 727 Radiator Issues
09-08-2003, 11:54 AM
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CJ7 Automatic 727 Radiator Issues
Can anyone tell me if all radiators for 258's have the automatic
transmission cooler? I just installed A/C and now I'm having a little bit of
a heating problem. Big Surprise.... Anyway I'm going over my options which
seem to be getting a shroud, or finding a 3 core radiator?
Since the A/C was installed the fan was moved forward about 1" and I'm wondering
if the larger radiator sticks any further forward or backward than the original?
Either might be aproblem since there is limited spacing between the condenser
and the existing radiator, as well as the fan.
I see 3 core radiators online but they don't specificaly say they have the AutoTrans
cooler.
Where can I get a shroud that will fit a center cap radiator with an automatic
transmission cooler?
I've seen shrouds online for around $80, but I would just as soon spend $200 on
a better radiator as $80 on a piece of plastic that is always in the way if you
know what I mean.
Thanks
Rob
transmission cooler? I just installed A/C and now I'm having a little bit of
a heating problem. Big Surprise.... Anyway I'm going over my options which
seem to be getting a shroud, or finding a 3 core radiator?
Since the A/C was installed the fan was moved forward about 1" and I'm wondering
if the larger radiator sticks any further forward or backward than the original?
Either might be aproblem since there is limited spacing between the condenser
and the existing radiator, as well as the fan.
I see 3 core radiators online but they don't specificaly say they have the AutoTrans
cooler.
Where can I get a shroud that will fit a center cap radiator with an automatic
transmission cooler?
I've seen shrouds online for around $80, but I would just as soon spend $200 on
a better radiator as $80 on a piece of plastic that is always in the way if you
know what I mean.
Thanks
Rob
09-08-2003, 12:20 PM
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Re: CJ7 Automatic 727 Radiator Issues
The tank on the top of the radiators is all the same, 2- or 3- or 4-core.
The number of cores is changed but the top tanks is the same, so any nearby
obstruction that misses the current radiator should still miss the new
radiator with the added cores.
The bottom tank is the one that supports the cooler for the auto trans. the
bottom tank with nipples for the auto trans lines will work fine in a manual
trans application, but obviously the tanks with out the nipples will not
work when there is an auto trans to deal with. That said, you can always go
out and get a dedicated radiator for the auto trans.
When you order your radiator, simply specify that you need one for an
automatic trans, and you will get one with the nipples on the bottom tank.
"Robert" <tayl0rr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ff33c2c3.0309080754.15c8c187@posting.google.c om...
> Can anyone tell me if all radiators for 258's have the automatic
> transmission cooler? I just installed A/C and now I'm having a little bit
of
> a heating problem. Big Surprise.... Anyway I'm going over my options
which
> seem to be getting a shroud, or finding a 3 core radiator?
>
> Since the A/C was installed the fan was moved forward about 1" and I'm
wondering
> if the larger radiator sticks any further forward or backward than the
original?
> Either might be aproblem since there is limited spacing between the
condenser
> and the existing radiator, as well as the fan.
>
> I see 3 core radiators online but they don't specificaly say they have the
AutoTrans
> cooler.
>
> Where can I get a shroud that will fit a center cap radiator with an
automatic
> transmission cooler?
>
> I've seen shrouds online for around $80, but I would just as soon spend
$200 on
> a better radiator as $80 on a piece of plastic that is always in the way
if you
> know what I mean.
>
> Thanks
> Rob
The number of cores is changed but the top tanks is the same, so any nearby
obstruction that misses the current radiator should still miss the new
radiator with the added cores.
The bottom tank is the one that supports the cooler for the auto trans. the
bottom tank with nipples for the auto trans lines will work fine in a manual
trans application, but obviously the tanks with out the nipples will not
work when there is an auto trans to deal with. That said, you can always go
out and get a dedicated radiator for the auto trans.
When you order your radiator, simply specify that you need one for an
automatic trans, and you will get one with the nipples on the bottom tank.
"Robert" <tayl0rr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ff33c2c3.0309080754.15c8c187@posting.google.c om...
> Can anyone tell me if all radiators for 258's have the automatic
> transmission cooler? I just installed A/C and now I'm having a little bit
of
> a heating problem. Big Surprise.... Anyway I'm going over my options
which
> seem to be getting a shroud, or finding a 3 core radiator?
>
> Since the A/C was installed the fan was moved forward about 1" and I'm
wondering
> if the larger radiator sticks any further forward or backward than the
original?
> Either might be aproblem since there is limited spacing between the
condenser
> and the existing radiator, as well as the fan.
>
> I see 3 core radiators online but they don't specificaly say they have the
AutoTrans
> cooler.
>
> Where can I get a shroud that will fit a center cap radiator with an
automatic
> transmission cooler?
>
> I've seen shrouds online for around $80, but I would just as soon spend
$200 on
> a better radiator as $80 on a piece of plastic that is always in the way
if you
> know what I mean.
>
> Thanks
> Rob
09-08-2003, 12:20 PM
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Re: CJ7 Automatic 727 Radiator Issues
The tank on the top of the radiators is all the same, 2- or 3- or 4-core.
The number of cores is changed but the top tanks is the same, so any nearby
obstruction that misses the current radiator should still miss the new
radiator with the added cores.
The bottom tank is the one that supports the cooler for the auto trans. the
bottom tank with nipples for the auto trans lines will work fine in a manual
trans application, but obviously the tanks with out the nipples will not
work when there is an auto trans to deal with. That said, you can always go
out and get a dedicated radiator for the auto trans.
When you order your radiator, simply specify that you need one for an
automatic trans, and you will get one with the nipples on the bottom tank.
"Robert" <tayl0rr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ff33c2c3.0309080754.15c8c187@posting.google.c om...
> Can anyone tell me if all radiators for 258's have the automatic
> transmission cooler? I just installed A/C and now I'm having a little bit
of
> a heating problem. Big Surprise.... Anyway I'm going over my options
which
> seem to be getting a shroud, or finding a 3 core radiator?
>
> Since the A/C was installed the fan was moved forward about 1" and I'm
wondering
> if the larger radiator sticks any further forward or backward than the
original?
> Either might be aproblem since there is limited spacing between the
condenser
> and the existing radiator, as well as the fan.
>
> I see 3 core radiators online but they don't specificaly say they have the
AutoTrans
> cooler.
>
> Where can I get a shroud that will fit a center cap radiator with an
automatic
> transmission cooler?
>
> I've seen shrouds online for around $80, but I would just as soon spend
$200 on
> a better radiator as $80 on a piece of plastic that is always in the way
if you
> know what I mean.
>
> Thanks
> Rob
The number of cores is changed but the top tanks is the same, so any nearby
obstruction that misses the current radiator should still miss the new
radiator with the added cores.
The bottom tank is the one that supports the cooler for the auto trans. the
bottom tank with nipples for the auto trans lines will work fine in a manual
trans application, but obviously the tanks with out the nipples will not
work when there is an auto trans to deal with. That said, you can always go
out and get a dedicated radiator for the auto trans.
When you order your radiator, simply specify that you need one for an
automatic trans, and you will get one with the nipples on the bottom tank.
"Robert" <tayl0rr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ff33c2c3.0309080754.15c8c187@posting.google.c om...
> Can anyone tell me if all radiators for 258's have the automatic
> transmission cooler? I just installed A/C and now I'm having a little bit
of
> a heating problem. Big Surprise.... Anyway I'm going over my options
which
> seem to be getting a shroud, or finding a 3 core radiator?
>
> Since the A/C was installed the fan was moved forward about 1" and I'm
wondering
> if the larger radiator sticks any further forward or backward than the
original?
> Either might be aproblem since there is limited spacing between the
condenser
> and the existing radiator, as well as the fan.
>
> I see 3 core radiators online but they don't specificaly say they have the
AutoTrans
> cooler.
>
> Where can I get a shroud that will fit a center cap radiator with an
automatic
> transmission cooler?
>
> I've seen shrouds online for around $80, but I would just as soon spend
$200 on
> a better radiator as $80 on a piece of plastic that is always in the way
if you
> know what I mean.
>
> Thanks
> Rob
09-08-2003, 03:27 PM
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Re: CJ7 Automatic 727 Radiator Issues
We have and 89YJ and the radiator has NO AT cooler inside, instead ours
has a line the goes infront of the grill between the two front rails and
has a 2" wide by ~25" long plate that it attaches to, the plate attaches
to the frame rails. The line has fins on it for cooling. I like this
setup better than having to deal with hooking up AT's to the radiator.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:vlpb9jiju62vea@corp.supernews.com:
> The tank on the top of the radiators is all the same, 2- or 3- or
> 4-core. The number of cores is changed but the top tanks is the same,
> so any nearby obstruction that misses the current radiator should
> still miss the new radiator with the added cores.
>
> The bottom tank is the one that supports the cooler for the auto
> trans. the bottom tank with nipples for the auto trans lines will work
> fine in a manual trans application, but obviously the tanks with out
> the nipples will not work when there is an auto trans to deal with.
> That said, you can always go out and get a dedicated radiator for the
> auto trans.
>
> When you order your radiator, simply specify that you need one for an
> automatic trans, and you will get one with the nipples on the bottom
> tank.
>
>
>
> "Robert" <tayl0rr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ff33c2c3.0309080754.15c8c187@posting.google.c om...
>> Can anyone tell me if all radiators for 258's have the automatic
>> transmission cooler? I just installed A/C and now I'm having a
>> little bit
> of
>> a heating problem. Big Surprise.... Anyway I'm going over my
>> options
> which
>> seem to be getting a shroud, or finding a 3 core radiator?
>>
>> Since the A/C was installed the fan was moved forward about 1" and
>> I'm
> wondering
>> if the larger radiator sticks any further forward or backward than
>> the
> original?
>> Either might be aproblem since there is limited spacing between the
> condenser
>> and the existing radiator, as well as the fan.
>>
>> I see 3 core radiators online but they don't specificaly say they
>> have the
> AutoTrans
>> cooler.
>>
>> Where can I get a shroud that will fit a center cap radiator with an
> automatic
>> transmission cooler?
>>
>> I've seen shrouds online for around $80, but I would just as soon
>> spend
> $200 on
>> a better radiator as $80 on a piece of plastic that is always in the
>> way
> if you
>> know what I mean.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rob
>
>
>
has a line the goes infront of the grill between the two front rails and
has a 2" wide by ~25" long plate that it attaches to, the plate attaches
to the frame rails. The line has fins on it for cooling. I like this
setup better than having to deal with hooking up AT's to the radiator.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:vlpb9jiju62vea@corp.supernews.com:
> The tank on the top of the radiators is all the same, 2- or 3- or
> 4-core. The number of cores is changed but the top tanks is the same,
> so any nearby obstruction that misses the current radiator should
> still miss the new radiator with the added cores.
>
> The bottom tank is the one that supports the cooler for the auto
> trans. the bottom tank with nipples for the auto trans lines will work
> fine in a manual trans application, but obviously the tanks with out
> the nipples will not work when there is an auto trans to deal with.
> That said, you can always go out and get a dedicated radiator for the
> auto trans.
>
> When you order your radiator, simply specify that you need one for an
> automatic trans, and you will get one with the nipples on the bottom
> tank.
>
>
>
> "Robert" <tayl0rr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ff33c2c3.0309080754.15c8c187@posting.google.c om...
>> Can anyone tell me if all radiators for 258's have the automatic
>> transmission cooler? I just installed A/C and now I'm having a
>> little bit
> of
>> a heating problem. Big Surprise.... Anyway I'm going over my
>> options
> which
>> seem to be getting a shroud, or finding a 3 core radiator?
>>
>> Since the A/C was installed the fan was moved forward about 1" and
>> I'm
> wondering
>> if the larger radiator sticks any further forward or backward than
>> the
> original?
>> Either might be aproblem since there is limited spacing between the
> condenser
>> and the existing radiator, as well as the fan.
>>
>> I see 3 core radiators online but they don't specificaly say they
>> have the
> AutoTrans
>> cooler.
>>
>> Where can I get a shroud that will fit a center cap radiator with an
> automatic
>> transmission cooler?
>>
>> I've seen shrouds online for around $80, but I would just as soon
>> spend
> $200 on
>> a better radiator as $80 on a piece of plastic that is always in the
>> way
> if you
>> know what I mean.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rob
>
>
>
09-08-2003, 03:27 PM
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Re: CJ7 Automatic 727 Radiator Issues
We have and 89YJ and the radiator has NO AT cooler inside, instead ours
has a line the goes infront of the grill between the two front rails and
has a 2" wide by ~25" long plate that it attaches to, the plate attaches
to the frame rails. The line has fins on it for cooling. I like this
setup better than having to deal with hooking up AT's to the radiator.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:vlpb9jiju62vea@corp.supernews.com:
> The tank on the top of the radiators is all the same, 2- or 3- or
> 4-core. The number of cores is changed but the top tanks is the same,
> so any nearby obstruction that misses the current radiator should
> still miss the new radiator with the added cores.
>
> The bottom tank is the one that supports the cooler for the auto
> trans. the bottom tank with nipples for the auto trans lines will work
> fine in a manual trans application, but obviously the tanks with out
> the nipples will not work when there is an auto trans to deal with.
> That said, you can always go out and get a dedicated radiator for the
> auto trans.
>
> When you order your radiator, simply specify that you need one for an
> automatic trans, and you will get one with the nipples on the bottom
> tank.
>
>
>
> "Robert" <tayl0rr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ff33c2c3.0309080754.15c8c187@posting.google.c om...
>> Can anyone tell me if all radiators for 258's have the automatic
>> transmission cooler? I just installed A/C and now I'm having a
>> little bit
> of
>> a heating problem. Big Surprise.... Anyway I'm going over my
>> options
> which
>> seem to be getting a shroud, or finding a 3 core radiator?
>>
>> Since the A/C was installed the fan was moved forward about 1" and
>> I'm
> wondering
>> if the larger radiator sticks any further forward or backward than
>> the
> original?
>> Either might be aproblem since there is limited spacing between the
> condenser
>> and the existing radiator, as well as the fan.
>>
>> I see 3 core radiators online but they don't specificaly say they
>> have the
> AutoTrans
>> cooler.
>>
>> Where can I get a shroud that will fit a center cap radiator with an
> automatic
>> transmission cooler?
>>
>> I've seen shrouds online for around $80, but I would just as soon
>> spend
> $200 on
>> a better radiator as $80 on a piece of plastic that is always in the
>> way
> if you
>> know what I mean.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rob
>
>
>
has a line the goes infront of the grill between the two front rails and
has a 2" wide by ~25" long plate that it attaches to, the plate attaches
to the frame rails. The line has fins on it for cooling. I like this
setup better than having to deal with hooking up AT's to the radiator.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:vlpb9jiju62vea@corp.supernews.com:
> The tank on the top of the radiators is all the same, 2- or 3- or
> 4-core. The number of cores is changed but the top tanks is the same,
> so any nearby obstruction that misses the current radiator should
> still miss the new radiator with the added cores.
>
> The bottom tank is the one that supports the cooler for the auto
> trans. the bottom tank with nipples for the auto trans lines will work
> fine in a manual trans application, but obviously the tanks with out
> the nipples will not work when there is an auto trans to deal with.
> That said, you can always go out and get a dedicated radiator for the
> auto trans.
>
> When you order your radiator, simply specify that you need one for an
> automatic trans, and you will get one with the nipples on the bottom
> tank.
>
>
>
> "Robert" <tayl0rr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ff33c2c3.0309080754.15c8c187@posting.google.c om...
>> Can anyone tell me if all radiators for 258's have the automatic
>> transmission cooler? I just installed A/C and now I'm having a
>> little bit
> of
>> a heating problem. Big Surprise.... Anyway I'm going over my
>> options
> which
>> seem to be getting a shroud, or finding a 3 core radiator?
>>
>> Since the A/C was installed the fan was moved forward about 1" and
>> I'm
> wondering
>> if the larger radiator sticks any further forward or backward than
>> the
> original?
>> Either might be aproblem since there is limited spacing between the
> condenser
>> and the existing radiator, as well as the fan.
>>
>> I see 3 core radiators online but they don't specificaly say they
>> have the
> AutoTrans
>> cooler.
>>
>> Where can I get a shroud that will fit a center cap radiator with an
> automatic
>> transmission cooler?
>>
>> I've seen shrouds online for around $80, but I would just as soon
>> spend
> $200 on
>> a better radiator as $80 on a piece of plastic that is always in the
>> way
> if you
>> know what I mean.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rob
>
>
>
09-08-2003, 08:20 PM
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Re: CJ7 Automatic 727 Radiator Issues
"Robert" <tayl0rr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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....
> Either might be aproblem since there is limited spacing between the
condenser
> and the existing radiator, as well as the fan.
Did you put the condenser between the radiator and fan? Sounds like it...
__
Steve
..
09-08-2003, 08:20 PM
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Re: CJ7 Automatic 727 Radiator Issues
"Robert" <tayl0rr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ff33c2c3.0309080754.15c8c187@posting.google.c om...
....
> Either might be aproblem since there is limited spacing between the
condenser
> and the existing radiator, as well as the fan.
Did you put the condenser between the radiator and fan? Sounds like it...
__
Steve
..
09-08-2003, 09:04 PM
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Re: CJ7 Automatic 727 Radiator Issues
I just got my 727-equipped Scrambler running, and i used a new 4-core radiator.
It has the AT tank on the bottom, but i bypassed it and used a huge B&M cooler
in front of the radiator. The 727 seems to be running a little warm so i will
probably run the lines in series with the radiator, as recommended.
Don W
'82 CJ8 Scrambler
AMC 360
T/F 727
Dana 300
One-piece model 20 rear
Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
2" shackle lift/reversal
2" lift springs of unknown origin
33" Mickey's
And it finally runs!!!!!
It has the AT tank on the bottom, but i bypassed it and used a huge B&M cooler
in front of the radiator. The 727 seems to be running a little warm so i will
probably run the lines in series with the radiator, as recommended.
Don W
'82 CJ8 Scrambler
AMC 360
T/F 727
Dana 300
One-piece model 20 rear
Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
2" shackle lift/reversal
2" lift springs of unknown origin
33" Mickey's
And it finally runs!!!!!
09-08-2003, 09:04 PM
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Re: CJ7 Automatic 727 Radiator Issues
I just got my 727-equipped Scrambler running, and i used a new 4-core radiator.
It has the AT tank on the bottom, but i bypassed it and used a huge B&M cooler
in front of the radiator. The 727 seems to be running a little warm so i will
probably run the lines in series with the radiator, as recommended.
Don W
'82 CJ8 Scrambler
AMC 360
T/F 727
Dana 300
One-piece model 20 rear
Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
2" shackle lift/reversal
2" lift springs of unknown origin
33" Mickey's
And it finally runs!!!!!
It has the AT tank on the bottom, but i bypassed it and used a huge B&M cooler
in front of the radiator. The 727 seems to be running a little warm so i will
probably run the lines in series with the radiator, as recommended.
Don W
'82 CJ8 Scrambler
AMC 360
T/F 727
Dana 300
One-piece model 20 rear
Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
2" shackle lift/reversal
2" lift springs of unknown origin
33" Mickey's
And it finally runs!!!!!
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